Message from @Dusty Morgan

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2018-08-22 01:37:25 UTC  

They arent. This has been a steady buildup

2018-08-22 01:38:32 UTC  

I feel that the big social media companies has accelerated the problem to the end game and is major part of dividing people even more along party lines aka tribalism.

2018-08-22 01:39:33 UTC  

I don't think they have at all. I think the financial unrest of 08, and the past 30 years of US hyper partisanship has fucked your country, and other countries with it

2018-08-22 01:39:50 UTC  

It just wasn't as noticeable before everyone could talk

2018-08-22 01:39:51 UTC  

I think what's actually happening is far more subtle and far more worldwide.

2018-08-22 01:39:59 UTC  

Everyone has always had echo chambers.

2018-08-22 01:40:05 UTC  

But they were limited by geography.

2018-08-22 01:40:11 UTC  

That's why we had nations and cultures.

2018-08-22 01:40:15 UTC  

Or in the US, states.

2018-08-22 01:40:47 UTC  

These companies are vastly powerful and working together in conjunctions with each other, basically they have monopolized our communication across the internet. Then they start restricting content to us based on our likes and dislikes, which bleeds into politics where you may like republican and dislike democrats, etc, etc... They give you content based on what your views and likes are. Creating a huge echo chamber for many people, they also hide comments and opinions that is opposed to your views.

2018-08-22 01:41:15 UTC  

But now with everyone talking to each other, there's a bit of culture shock.

Simultaneously you've got globalization (of which US interventions are part)

2018-08-22 01:41:22 UTC  

They're just automating what already went on

2018-08-22 01:41:41 UTC  

Yes, that has been noted by many, including many who manage these networks.

2018-08-22 01:42:11 UTC  

But alot of activists in the organizations (mostly on the left) don't want to pop the echo chamber. Or atleast, they only want to pop it one way.

2018-08-22 01:42:26 UTC  

They pretty much false advertise to people using these platforms. Aka free speech platforms where free exchange of ideas can happen. That isn't what you get with these social media companies now.

2018-08-22 01:42:30 UTC  

Damore and leaked Google chatroom conversations has mentioned as much.

2018-08-22 01:42:38 UTC  

Is it false advertisement? Seriously think about it.

2018-08-22 01:42:41 UTC  

It can happen, it just doesn't

2018-08-22 01:42:57 UTC  

I agree. I was arguing we need to regulate these platforms to stop censorship.

2018-08-22 01:43:14 UTC  

Nothing is stopping you from talking to people on twitter. Y'all just have to turn off the blockbots and stop false flagging shit

2018-08-22 01:43:33 UTC  

I don't think we need regulations, but we do need like a internet bill of rights for our users, thus if the social media infringes upon these rights they can be sued and held accountable.

2018-08-22 01:43:35 UTC  

I will say I have seen studies (which I foolishly lost) that indicate people online actually are more aware of their oppositions positions than people not online and people are more aware than in the past.

2018-08-22 01:43:43 UTC  

We don't need government intervention into the social media companies.

2018-08-22 01:43:53 UTC  

But what's an internet bill of rights but intervention then?

2018-08-22 01:44:01 UTC  

I'm not quite sure I see the difference.

2018-08-22 01:44:22 UTC  

Unless you are thinking of a "I sue them" versus "the FTC fines them" distinction.

2018-08-22 01:44:40 UTC  

But that's just enforcement mechanisms.

2018-08-22 01:44:48 UTC  

It is basically a agreement between social media and us, this is the list of our rights and thus the social media can't infringe upon these rights unless they want to be held accountable by people through the rule of law.

2018-08-22 01:45:24 UTC  

But what is the law but a community contract? And what is a contract than an agreement?

2018-08-22 01:45:49 UTC  

Regulation is when the government is actively involved with the social media companies and keeps a thumb on their pulse. Absolute power corrupts absolute.

2018-08-22 01:45:51 UTC  

Technically, threre is an agreement. It's the Terms of Service and you agree to it by using the site.

2018-08-22 01:45:54 UTC  

Government is good at destroying.

2018-08-22 01:46:26 UTC  

Sure. I can agree. But if you are going to create a bill of rights you must enforce it somehow.

2018-08-22 01:46:35 UTC  

Or people will renege.

2018-08-22 01:46:49 UTC  

There is unspoken norms. But I think it can be said alot of them are already being violated.

2018-08-22 01:47:08 UTC  

Basically they can be held accountable our nation's laws if they infringe upon that nation's citizen.

2018-08-22 01:47:37 UTC  

The law that they can be held accountable depends on the person and what nation they are from.

2018-08-22 01:47:45 UTC  

...That's what I'm saying and advocating.

2018-08-22 01:47:53 UTC  

But you have to have an enforcement mechanism.

2018-08-22 01:48:03 UTC  

Either an agency enforcing the law or an opening for Tort.

2018-08-22 01:48:24 UTC  

That is where we got to hash out the details of the bill of rights.