Message from @Dusty Morgan
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We don't need government intervention into the social media companies.
But what's an internet bill of rights but intervention then?
I'm not quite sure I see the difference.
Unless you are thinking of a "I sue them" versus "the FTC fines them" distinction.
But that's just enforcement mechanisms.
It is basically a agreement between social media and us, this is the list of our rights and thus the social media can't infringe upon these rights unless they want to be held accountable by people through the rule of law.
But what is the law but a community contract? And what is a contract than an agreement?
Regulation is when the government is actively involved with the social media companies and keeps a thumb on their pulse. Absolute power corrupts absolute.
Technically, threre is an agreement. It's the Terms of Service and you agree to it by using the site.
Government is good at destroying.
Sure. I can agree. But if you are going to create a bill of rights you must enforce it somehow.
Or people will renege.
There is unspoken norms. But I think it can be said alot of them are already being violated.
Basically they can be held accountable our nation's laws if they infringe upon that nation's citizen.
The law that they can be held accountable depends on the person and what nation they are from.
...That's what I'm saying and advocating.
But you have to have an enforcement mechanism.
Either an agency enforcing the law or an opening for Tort.
That is where we got to hash out the details of the bill of rights.
The constitution of United States wasn't made in a single day.
It was drafted kinda quickly...
I don't get where people get that idea, it was thought upon, debated upon, talked about, and hashed out by our founding fathers.
And you're thinking of the DOI. Not the Constitution.
It wasn't made in a single night.
The Bill of Rights was also debated upon.
I was using constitution as a example.
It will take time for us users of the internet to come up with a bill of rights.
And a agreement between the social media company and us.
You might not have that much time though.
And more importantly, what exactly are you proposing?
Yeah I'm not for the regulation of private companies. I think a better solution is to build up less shitty sites. And any agreement the social media company can make they can break, so how do you enforce it?
I don't want to give the power of controlling our global communication to the government.
A nebulous "bill of rights to be decided at a later date" is worthless.
I'd say it's already too late. Europe is already doing so.
And the far east moreso.
Yeah but the EU will collapse and then who the fuck will care?
Chinese internet is an echo chamber in an dog itself
Individual European countries,.
France is already pressuring to ban "fake news"
Sorry for barging into this conversation, I am very opinionated and I think highly of my nation's founding father's vision.