Atmospheric refraction is like when you put a stick in water and it looks like it's in a different place in the water, right? (If you get what I mean)

The light from the sun is being refracted so it looks displaced, although physically it is still behind the moon

Light moves differently through gravity and space too

Yeah my bad

What I said still holds true tho

Light moves differently through an atmosphere than empty space

Like my water example I used earlier

It doesn't "move" the sun. The light from the sun is displaced by the atmosphere so it seems as if it is shifted.

It's like how when we look at things 100 light years away, we are actually seeing what they looked like in the past due to how fast light moves

It's not moving the sun

A telescope can though

Which is obviously what I would be talking about

you just said I can't see 100 light years????

What???

Well sure, then why did you say I can't see 100 light years away?

Opinions don't fit well in debates over what is fact or not.

Opinion: "A view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge."

Ye

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Apparently so

Is your opinion that it's not possible to are 300 light years away based on facts?

People found its distance from earth using advanced trigonometry

And "because of perspective" doesn't make any sense

You find the distance to the sun

That's what happens

That's why we use telescopes

Not necessarily, since the earth surface is rounded, which would create an imperfect triangle

But close

Yeah sure

Sorry what

Anyway I have a source which explains this in better depth than I can

https://spaceplace.nasa.gov/review/dr-marc-solar-system/planet-distances.html

I would advise reading it

I know there's better ones out there with more detail but I'll have to look later

You can essentially calculate distances using angle-side equations and ratios

Same number of what?

Nah they dont

That would mean that the moon is the same distance from the earth as the sun is

Yep

But one is smaller and closer, while the other is bigger and farther away

Like how if you look at a man standing on a hill with a scyscraper in the background, they may look similar in height.

No it doesn't

Look up what? "Does the trig problem give the same number for the sun and moon"?

Okay this is trippy

That would take days because you have to consider moon phases and orbit speed relative to the earth

Also if the sun was the same size as the moon, the the earth wouldn't orbit around the sun. It would be torn and stretched between the sun and moon until both eventually collide.

That's not even taking into account other planets

Okay wbat

Ripp

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Thats a star

That's not a star of David tho

Just a star

I drew those stars as a child; it's the generic star drawing. Not satanic

But I do give meaning to it. That meaning is that it's a star.

I mean

Or it could just be a star

Not everything has to have satanic connotation

That's how circumnavigation works

So yes

You'd have to go perfectly east

What did he mean by this

Yep

On Google Earth?

Are you *sure* that it's not just a user error

Yes you are

That's how latitude works

Longitude is up and down

Latitude is parallel to the equator

@jeremy why would parallel lines interest if the equator is simply a latitudinal line?

And assuming all latitudinal lines are parallel, then how do you explain that?

You said to follow from New York directly east along it's latitude. That would not bring you to another latitude.

Google Earth is a faulty simulation. You can't just site Google Earth as fact.

That's what going east means though

Nope

That's not how parallel lines work.

Why can't you get it through your skull that parallel lines NEVER cross and going directly east would take you along a line of latitude which is PARALLEL to tell equator

Latitude lines are parallel to each other

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@Citizen Z are you sure about the globe model circumnavigation thing? I always thought that since you're going directly east, you wouldn't veer off the latitude line. Wouldn't anything off the line be going either North or South?

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Also just to clarify @Citizen Z, are we talking a set direction east of the start, or constantly going east from every step?

Also @💚Naki💚 too right

Oh ok

I think I see what you mean

Why thank you

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That's me btw

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<:silly:507986623850348547> this looks like a globe to me /s

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Can't hit them if you're stuck to the ground and full of feces

Actually, if we're getting creative here what if it were one from the captain underpants books?

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