why are socialists and communists seperate parties when "anarchists" is collectivised smh

socialism and communism is literally the same thing, it only differs from the perspective of marxist leninists

communism
ˈkɒmjʊnɪz(ə)m/
noun
noun: communism

a theory or system of social organization in which all property is owned by the community and each person contributes and receives according to their ability and needs.

socialism
ˈsəʊʃəlɪz(ə)m/
noun
noun: socialism

a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole

lmao

bro politics is gay just delete it

anarchist mentality

communism and socialism are the same thing

smh

only from the perspective of MLs is socialism viewed as the transitory period

marx and engels themselves literally used the terms interchangably

"socialism" is pretty broad and predates marx

@GardenKing question

if you accept that socialism is just a means to the end of attaining full communism, why label yourself a socialist and not a communist?

@GardenKing

@🦅 𝓔𝓪𝓰𝓵𝓮 𝓔𝔂𝓮 🦅 what are your leanings btw

conservative probs

the name reeks of magapede

yep

true

anarchism > monarchism > everything else

boring

server needs more tankies tbh

@🦅 𝓔𝓪𝓰𝓵𝓮 𝓔𝔂𝓮 🦅 suggestion btw: *please* make more nuanced roles than just "anarchism". i don't want to get lumped in with the ancoms or the ancaps

bro who cares democracy gay af

a pointless figurehead

truly epic

u niggas wanna see something absolutely enraging

https://youtu.be/D5NUYqd07GI

feel like pure shit just want my country back x

country transcends state

i love my country and the people in it, i just don't want it to be governed by a system which will gradually shift the overton window leftwards, regardless of how right-wing it starts off at

@Mr. X not immediatly lol

think long term; say you start off at a traditionalist monarchy, as population grows you need technological innovation to exert the rule of law more effectively over bigger areas. technological innovation breeds left-wing ideals

my boy ted said it best:

50. The conservatives are fools: They whine about the decay of traditional values, yet they enthusiastically sup-
port technological progress nd economic growth. Apparently it never occurs to them that you can’t make rapid,
drastic changes in the technology and the economy of a society without causing rapid changes in all other aspects of the society as well, and that such rapid changes inevitably break down traditional values

everything you type is such a massive simplification with absolutely no substance it's laughable

i really do sympathise with the communists saying that you were a massive sperg

yes you are lol @Mr. X

big ol burger

again, you cant make such a sweeping generalisation and then not elaborate and expect to be taken seriously lmao

you're easily the dumbest user here

it's hilarious

lmfao sure

technological advancement is the basis for cultural putrefaction. you **cannot** make dramatic changes to the techno-economic systen and expect those to not permeate the civilisation as a whole being as they are fundamental pillars of it. you saying "yeah thats wrong lol" without *any* further elaboration makes you look like a colossal sperg to everyone who actually understands such a linear idea lol

@Mr. X funny how you dont acknowledge me lol

really makes you think

🤔

are you that much of a sperg

you literally just agreed with me

an "advanced" society is the issue lmfao

tradition dies with technological progress, the two cannot be reconciled

this is known

because they maintained tradition, yes

in the renaissance, people became dramatically less religious and it's due to all the technological advancement that happened concurrently

E actually has such an ignorant and deluded perspective of basic history

its hilarious

but worrying

mmhmm

YES BECAUSE PROTESTANTS WERE LESS RELIGIOUS AND LESS TRADITIONALIST THAN THE CATHOLICS YOU FUCKING MUG

do you understand the word "less"

you're absolutely delusional

E you're fucking delusional lmao

wow so there was very little technological progress during the dark ages??? who wouldve thought???

so literally proves me right thanks

and yourself wrong

50. The conservatives are fools: They whine about the decay of traditional values, yet they enthusiastically support technological progress and economic growth. Apparently it never occurs to them that you can’t make rapid, drastic changes in the technology and the economy of a society without causing rapid changes in all other aspects of the society as well, and that such rapid changes inevitably break down traditional values.

REMINDER

poor information? you literally said that there was no technological progress in the dark ages as your case study to prove me wrong lmfao

you proved everything in the reminder right

your case study to refute my argument literally proved me right

me: "technological advancement inhibits traditionalism"
E: "no it doesn't, in the dark ages there was little technological advancement and so they maintained their traditional values almost wholly"
me: "yes that proves me right thanks"

ah yes so you just dug up a case study that shows a positive correlation between the two variables i am arguing positively correlate, to prove me wrong

this is galaxy brain shit

he is literally disagreeing with my point while proving me right *in his argument to prove me wrong*

im impressed

is this one of those things where you try to argue for something you dont believe so you dont care if you lose

that is the only explanation i have

nobody can be this delusional

literally everyone impartial to this argument has agreed that you have proved me right

so i'll put you fervantly disagreeing down to stubborness

and misplaced pride

it's ok man i forgive you

i've convinced the impartials, good enough for me

mate your argument to refute the point of "traditional values decay with technological advancement", was to tell me about the dark ages (a time where traditional values didn't decay while there was no technological advancement).

when i pointed this out to you, you said that that doesn't necessarily prove my point. your argument to refute me was to tell me about a positive correlation between the two things that *i am arguing corlellate*

absolutely insane stuff

@Mr. X what? the decay of christianity is what i am talking about in terms of technological advancement lol

do you even understand what you're arguing

E is actually a child

there is no point talking to this man

"man"

@Mr. X except traditional christian values *have* decayed with technological advancement. the west is the most technologically developed place on earth, it also has the most number of atheists per capita. same applies to the advance countries in asia. even christians in the west have lost traditional christian values and seek to modernise the bible by pretending that the whole thing is metaphorical, in order to reconcile it with contemporary morality

"your source is unreliable"
"that's an ad hominen"

i'm fucking crying

mate if i start arguing while citing a cookbook, you pointing out that i'm arguing from a cookbook isnt an ad hominen lmfao

HAHAHAHAHA

"the west has a tradition which accepts atheists"

NO NIGGA WHY DO U THINK THEU GOT FUCKING BURNED ALIVE IN THE MIDDLE AGES LMAO

"tradition was different"

im fucking done

the point of "tradition" is that it doesnt change you colossal retard

YES THANKS FOR PROVING ME RIGHT LMAO

for the 2nd time today