a scientific theory means its a hypothesis that has been confirmed through evidence and experimentation

its befinately not a fairytale

btw @Rudi you link all these pics that you just look up on google and believe, and the one with 4 examples of the horizon, 2 were photoshopped and the numbers altered in the others

thats what the picture you googled said, but that isnt the actually math for the distance of those 2 locations @Rudi hahahahha

because the distance they wrote on the picture are wrong XD

@Rudi i bet you i could tell you why you believe the earth is flat right now, want me to guess?

@Rudi Nope. Instead you feel as if you don't fit in with people and society and/or that your government has wronged you in some personal of financial way. And because you dont fit in or feel betrayed you need to believe that its all a lie and the society that hurt/rejected you are all instead one big lie and deceiving you.

thats why

😄

@Rudi and im telling you your motivation for believing that

@evil chicken tbh the belief of this subject only gravitates towards the rejects/outsiders of society, its a way to process that they arnt the reason in which they dont fit in

@Overlord Yam @Rudi he changed his opinion because he lost a job, is flushed by debt or taxes, was betrayed or rejected by a love intrest, is ostracized from friends and family, or never fit in and has no real world relationships. One of those

@Derek Nelson im saying one of those not all lol

its always one of those

i mean yes, there are a variety of experiments and replicable theories that prove it is round

@evil chicken thats a shallow reason? Its the deepest reason, its rooted in wanting to believe that what makes them feel bad is false or a lie

@evil chicken the one thing you find in the story of all these people is one of those things that i listed, the one common denominator in every person that is really involved in flat earth stuff

@there are other reasons, but that same story of distrust and betrayal of society is the common link

@Rudi So im confused by your argument that if i cant prove something is 100% true myself at the drop of a hat then any other theory can be just as true?

@Rudi lets play the logical fallacy game?

its a way to teach less aware people what a logically fallacy can be

logical

@Rudi cmon the logical fallacy game is fun

@Rudi dude you need to stop saying look at this picture, and use your own reasoning

@Rudi ok Rudi, ill teach you why that meme is for idiots and a logical fallacy

@Rudi So theoretically if say that you had sex with a dog could you prove that you havent?

@could you send me absolute proof that you dont

@Bear. @Rudi Ya bear. Rudi over here likes pictures because they are easy for him to understand and pretty 😄

@Bear. people that have trouble getting complicated subjects tend to gravitate towards images to ground the concept

@Rudi how bout you answer a question about your theory, if the whole world is a straight view and surrounded by a giant land/ice wall on all its ends, why do we have no pictures of it?

@Rudi we have hundreds of thousands of images of the earth being curved from space

@Rudi you dont have one of something anyone can see

@Rudi so some people have the ability to stop 8 billion people from a border that is the circumference of the entire earth?

@Rudi they have enough members and power to stop the every human on earth from seeing it?

@Rudi but how do they stop people from slipping through

the border is tens of thousands of miles long

@Rudi its not you dont know, its not physically possible?

@YaBoiJeb and how is the earth not being flat making money?

@Rudi dont ignore people just because they prove your world view impossible

@YaBoiJeb if the earth was flat there would still be a flat earth Nasa that went into space hahaha no money difference

@Rudi it isnt physically possible for anyone to prevent the entire ppopulation of the world from seeing this ice wall

@Rudi it cant happen

@Henlo hahahah XD

@YaBoiJeb hahahah XD

@YaBoiJeb unfortunately i think Rudi is actually this beaten down by life that he actually grabbed onto this to prove to himself that he isnt the reason he doesnt fit in, and everythign is a lie and he is just enlightened

@YaBoiJeb its actually scary

@Derek Nelson no, thats genuinely why people get involved in these movements. Not tryign to offend anyone. Its jsut the common factor

@Rudi reasoning was that no one know why the sun works that magical way for the flat earth, instead how light works

@Derek Nelson your being a little dense bud. Gravity pulls downwards in a linear manor to the center. If the earth was flat it would be pulled and crushed into a circle until it fufils that linear pull

@Rudi @Bear. i mean hey i went the easy route and explained that its all a hate or mistrust of society. We dont need much more to disprove something that doesnt have any evidence fr it

666?

alumnati confirmed

@Rudi no i type that there is a psychological reason behind blind radicalism that has been proven anthropologically and sociologically. I have a degree in both anthropology and archaeology, in anthro we study movements like that flat earth. And what has been found across the board without fail every flat earther interviewed expresses that they dont trust or feel betrayed by society or the government in a personal way that isnt related to the earth being flat

@Rudi your a saddening sociological phenomena not a scholar haha

@Rudi no it has been proven its real in numerous ways for centuries. But we dont need to prove to ourselves that society is a lie and evil to keep living like you guys

@Rudi so im interested in your story. What it was that made you feel betrayed by the people around you or your government that led you to the point where you cant go on living normally unless you prove that your arnt the reason for you problems :0

@well why were you so ready to believe that? What made it make sense that everything you told is a lie?

@Derek Nelson there is no debate. The earth isnt flat. You guys need to talk confront the actually things hurting you so your can let go of radicalism

yeah you guys deny sheer reality haha

@Derek Nelson there is a reason that 8 billion people know the earth is round, and maybe a few thousand hold onto it being flat because they dont want to admit they arnt normal

@Rudi https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484514023698726912/560767136453361664/FB_IMG_1552519404143.jpg the first one was taken higher, so much higher that it is out of the atmosphere and you can see the curve more pronounced

@Derek Nelson they are only flat when viewing from a small scale

the curves are to subtle otherwise

@Rudi but that is just a made up explination of yours

@Derek Nelson haha fortunately you guys wont do anything important enough with your life to be remembered by future generations. Just a sad joke that popped up in the early 200s

2000s

@Derek Nelson impactful people dont spend there time on this?

@Derek Nelson i mean god is a lie too haha. it is 100000000000000000000000000000000000000x more likely that the earth is flat than god existing

@Derek Nelson Derek is gonna tell some story of overcoming a huge obstacle in life and how god saved him in that situation

@Derek Nelson addiction, death of a close person, terminal illness? which one was your reason for beleiving in god. Something along the lines of loss and overcoming

@Derek Nelson dont ignore me silly, why do you believe in a book some ancient people punked everyone with to follow their rules

@Derek Nelson so i was right about my guess of why you beleive in god?

@Derek Nelson my guesses were death drom a close person, terminal illness, or addiction

@Derek Nelson i was definately right with my three guesses if not right about the subject of coming back from the brink

falt earthers, i mean explain why planes cant fly in a straight line to get to a location and why they will instead fall off the mark

@Derek Nelson dont leave me hanging. Im going to respond to what happened to you in a far more compassionate way than god and the people who beleive in them

@Derek Nelson Id say that you should be giving yourself the credit because you were the sole person who pulled yourself through that dark part of your life. And all the strength is within you, not from god

@Derek Nelson if im wrong about why you beleive in god youd tell me what your story is

@Derek Nelson the story of what happened to you to beleive in god isnt holy, its a actual thing that happened. So i dont know what there is to not believe

@Derek Nelson well to bad that means nothing because everyone has a different definition of good

i mean im a archaeolgist and there is no material proof left behind confirming the bibles narrative

Exodus 21:20-21

@Derek Nelson Exodus 21:20-21

this is your bible

all about love, equality, and humanity

Deuteronomy 22:28-29 oops rape is ok too according to the bible

@Derek Nelson the sad part is that im not attacking your faith, just showing you some of its verses

Deuteronomy 23:2

my favorite

wrong one whops

@evil chicken that one was my favorite i was trying to link

Leviticus 20:9

@Derek Nelson so everything we sent was the law? the rape, slavery, murder are all laws?

Proverbs 22:14

getting a little edgy bible

@Derek Nelson so you get to choose what passages are ok and not? how is that law?

Numbers 23:22

@Derek Nelson Deuteronomy 23:1

so this is the law?