Steve Carrel

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2020-10-22 11:46:36 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

How in the world are wars capitalism

2020-10-22 11:48:08 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

Well thatโ€™s a bit broad

2020-10-22 11:48:55 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

Socialism leaves it people in worse situations though

2020-10-22 11:49:38 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

It was fragile

2020-10-22 11:50:40 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

Also half of these are like famines and I just really donโ€™t see how a famine is a result of capitalism

2020-10-22 11:52:08 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

I donโ€™t know enough about those events to make a certain opinion on them

2020-10-22 11:52:28 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

But the colonization in Africa was definitely for military power over the Mediterranean

2020-10-22 11:59:14 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

No it wasn't lol

2020-10-22 12:00:42 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

It was gain docks, and bases across the medi

2020-10-22 12:01:41 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

If you cant remember the name how are we supposed to confirm it?

2020-10-22 12:02:13 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

India was ruled by the british crown

2020-10-22 12:02:41 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

Once more the british crown

2020-10-22 12:03:14 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

The africas were to poor to be worth colonizing though.

2020-10-22 12:03:28 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

Yes true

2020-10-22 12:03:54 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

Slaves were not a thing in france nor england during the colonizing

2020-10-22 12:04:34 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

Petrolium isnt a very profitable venture in africa

2020-10-22 12:04:39 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

if anything diamonds

2020-10-22 12:04:51 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

?

2020-10-22 12:05:42 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

Even then diamonds werent really found until 1940-1990s

2020-10-22 12:06:09 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

Gold ok i can see why they might do it for gold

2020-10-22 12:07:25 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

They werent even aware of many diamonds, gold, oil, or any other useful resources in africa during the 1870s

2020-10-22 12:08:22 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

Once again slaves werent really a thing the 1800s

2020-10-22 12:08:35 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

sure they had them early 19th century

2020-10-22 12:11:04 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

idk about that but ill assume youre right. but its trade was largely eliminated after 1840s

2020-10-22 12:11:51 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

the economic worth of slaves were diminishing anyways

2020-10-22 12:14:19 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

Even then the only place to have slight economic worth would be India

2020-10-22 12:14:34 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

But none of the oceanias were that wealthy

2020-10-22 12:15:29 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

And wasnt the colonization of america like in 1490s

2020-10-22 12:16:14 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

So were looking at the entire history of capitilalism?

2020-10-22 12:16:46 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

I believe you could see why thatd be a bit skewed

2020-10-22 12:17:31 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

Comparing all deaths to the long lasting capitalism to the relatively new idea of socialism is a bit unfair

2020-10-22 12:18:03 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

No

2020-10-22 12:18:31 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

Im saying that since capitalism has been around longer so itd only make sense that itd kill so many

2020-10-22 12:19:09 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

Im talking about the time frame

2020-10-22 12:19:21 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

Not the deaths themselves

2020-10-22 12:19:43 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

you put capitalism midway through the race while you've only just started with socialism

2020-10-22 12:21:08 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

Its a bit unfair to compare the hundreds of years that capitalism has exist to the very very new idea of socialism

2020-10-22 12:22:20 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

the type of socialism that people are trying to get

2020-10-22 12:22:29 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

Like the soviet unions style of socialism

2020-10-22 12:22:46 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

Marxism was scientific socialism that no country fully adopted

2020-10-22 12:22:57 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

until 1900s

2020-10-22 12:25:09 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

No country adopted Marxism sure there were people who thought of its ideas but no country took part in managing themselves like that

2020-10-22 12:25:48 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

Socialism in broad

2020-10-22 12:25:59 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

the first socialist party was elected in 1899

2020-10-22 12:26:56 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

So as i said capitalism was given a head start

2020-10-22 12:27:28 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

The idea of socialism existed but no country adopted it

2020-10-22 12:28:37 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

Like who?

2020-10-22 12:29:06 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

Native Tribes

2020-10-22 12:29:41 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

You do realize the problem with comparing Native Tribes with a few thousand people to a country with dozens of hundreds of thousands correct

2020-10-22 12:30:41 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

Native Tribes arent countries

2020-10-22 12:30:57 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

They couldnt be compared to what a country is

2020-10-22 12:31:10 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

Ok

2020-10-22 12:31:39 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

Im going to just ignore your entire post because scale wise what your saying makes no sense

2020-10-22 12:31:54 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

and now your trying to compare native tribes to full blown countries

2020-10-22 12:33:02 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

Yah know people who are using bows and arrows and have no materialistic values to people who have muskets carracks oil industry and even materialistic values

2020-10-22 12:33:30 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

Ok a comparable example

2020-10-22 12:33:38 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

Give me a comparable example

2020-10-22 12:33:40 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

not a tribe

2020-10-22 12:33:59 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

Something capable of being somewhat cultural equals

2020-10-22 12:34:02 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

No

2020-10-22 12:34:12 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

It had a few hundred years

2020-10-22 12:34:33 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

No actual country had socialism until 1899

2020-10-22 12:34:38 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

A tribe is a tribe

2020-10-22 12:34:56 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

Thats two hundred years

2020-10-22 12:35:51 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

Ok goodbye

2020-10-22 19:03:22 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

indeed

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