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2020-12-15 19:39:05 UTC [Zeducation #๐Ÿ’ฌ๏ฝœgeneral]  

Fuck Stalin.

2020-12-15 19:39:22 UTC [Zeducation #๐Ÿ’ฌ๏ฝœgeneral]  

Now, I gotta ask...

2020-12-15 19:39:29 UTC [Zeducation #๐Ÿ’ฌ๏ฝœgeneral]  

Was Stalin really a socialist?

2020-12-15 19:39:58 UTC [Zeducation #๐Ÿ’ฌ๏ฝœgeneral]  

I mean, Stalin's works are both extremely revisionist on Lenin and Marx.

2020-12-15 19:40:20 UTC [Zeducation #๐Ÿ’ฌ๏ฝœgeneral]  

Absolutely.

2020-12-15 19:40:31 UTC [Zeducation #๐Ÿ’ฌ๏ฝœgeneral]  

Yeah

2020-12-15 19:41:26 UTC [Zeducation #๐Ÿ’ฌ๏ฝœgeneral]  

Well, I don't think the consequences of Stalin were as bad as those of Hitler, but they are both some of the worst people in history.

2020-12-15 19:41:49 UTC [Zeducation #๐Ÿ’ฌ๏ฝœgeneral]  

Socialism is Communism.

2020-12-15 19:41:52 UTC [Zeducation #๐Ÿ’ฌ๏ฝœgeneral]  

They are the same thing.

2020-12-15 19:41:57 UTC [Zeducation #๐Ÿ’ฌ๏ฝœgeneral]  

Interchangable terms.

2020-12-15 19:42:04 UTC [Zeducation #๐Ÿ’ฌ๏ฝœgeneral]  

Hmmmm, not exactly..

2020-12-15 19:42:49 UTC [Zeducation #๐Ÿ’ฌ๏ฝœgeneral]  

Marx used Socialism and Communism interchangebly, but he used Communism more as Socialism had a more bourgeois characteristic to it, as he put it.

2020-12-15 19:42:56 UTC [Zeducation #๐Ÿ’ฌ๏ฝœgeneral]  

Yep

2020-12-15 19:44:39 UTC [Zeducation #๐Ÿ’ฌ๏ฝœgeneral]  

The step to Communism or Socialism is the dictatorship of the proletariat, at least according to Marx and Engels. This is sometimes referred to as Socialism itself, often by Marxist-Leninists.

2020-12-15 19:45:14 UTC [Zeducation #๐Ÿ’ฌ๏ฝœgeneral]  

But Marx never described the dictatorship of the proletariat as Socialist, and neither did Lenin.

2020-12-15 19:47:13 UTC [Zeducation #๐Ÿ’ฌ๏ฝœgeneral]  

That is true, Russia went from being a semi-Feudal state to the first country to launch a rocket into space, and managed to defend against Nazi Germany.

2020-12-15 19:47:22 UTC [Zeducation #๐Ÿ’ฌ๏ฝœgeneral]  

The cost though...

2020-12-15 19:49:28 UTC [Zeducation #๐Ÿ’ฌ๏ฝœgeneral]  

Plus, how Russia managed to industrialize was very much thanks to the selling of the fruits of the labor of the proletariat abroad, very opposed to Communism. Rather, the USSR was state capitalist.

2020-12-15 19:54:30 UTC [Zeducation #๐Ÿ’ฌ๏ฝœgeneral]  

Marx said that the revolutions would take place in the most advanced countries, which had late stage capitalism, such as Germany, which he had in mind. He recognized there was revolutionary activity taking place in Russia, which was noted in the 1882 preface to the Russian edition of the Communist Manifesto. And he did recognize the semi-Feudal position of Russia, and he stated that whether or not it would result in Communism, it would be a signal for the oncoming proletarian revolution in the advanced, late stage capitalist countries of West Europe.

2020-12-15 19:55:23 UTC [Zeducation #๐Ÿ’ฌ๏ฝœgeneral]  

And there was a revolution in Germany, very much promoted bu the Russian revolution, so Marx was correct in that manner. But, the revolution failed.

2020-12-15 20:02:19 UTC [Zeducation #๐Ÿ’ฌ๏ฝœgeneral]  

I mean, Americans may not care about Romania, but it's very much in the Capitalists' interests to have as large a market to dominate as possible.

2020-12-15 20:03:27 UTC [Zeducation #๐Ÿ’ฌ๏ฝœgeneral]  

Capital seeks to expand everywhere, so it is simply in America's best interest to have influence over Romania.

2020-12-15 20:05:32 UTC [Zeducation #๐Ÿ’ฌ๏ฝœgeneral]  

I mean, America didn't do so well in the war on terror, how can they face against China.

2020-12-15 20:05:50 UTC [Zeducation #๐Ÿ’ฌ๏ฝœgeneral]  

I mean, neither would win.

2020-12-15 20:06:29 UTC [Zeducation #๐Ÿ’ฌ๏ฝœgeneral]  

But it wouldn't matter, there wouldn't be another violent war between major powers, as it's detrimental to Capital.

2020-12-15 20:08:35 UTC [Zeducation #๐Ÿ’ฌ๏ฝœgeneral]  

As for Communism being unachievable, that may be true.

2020-12-15 20:08:47 UTC [Zeducation #๐Ÿ’ฌ๏ฝœgeneral]  

Revolution itself is much more difficult today.

2020-12-15 20:09:07 UTC [Zeducation #๐Ÿ’ฌ๏ฝœgeneral]  

And the proletariat don't have much interest as a whole in revolution yet.

2020-12-15 20:09:30 UTC [Zeducation #๐Ÿ’ฌ๏ฝœgeneral]  

Communism has too much infighting.

2020-12-15 20:10:50 UTC [Zeducation #๐Ÿ’ฌ๏ฝœgeneral]  

I mean, you may not care about the global market, but globalism is inevitable.

2020-12-15 20:10:57 UTC [Zeducation #๐Ÿ’ฌ๏ฝœgeneral]  

Isolationism simply isn't an option anymore.

2020-12-15 20:11:05 UTC [Zeducation #๐Ÿ’ฌ๏ฝœgeneral]  

It's pretty unfortunate.

2020-12-15 20:11:35 UTC [Zeducation #๐Ÿ’ฌ๏ฝœgeneral]  

But as I said earlier, Capital seeks to expand and dominate all. It needs to expand and grow, otherwise it collapses.

2020-12-15 20:11:50 UTC [Zeducation #๐Ÿ’ฌ๏ฝœgeneral]  

Isolating America will only lead to the collapse of Captialism, as such.

2020-12-15 20:13:02 UTC [Zeducation #๐Ÿ’ฌ๏ฝœgeneral]  

I know it isn't isolated, I'm just saying complete globalism is inevitable.

2020-12-17 13:30:44 UTC [Zeducation #๐Ÿ’ฌ๏ฝœgeneral]  

Is it possible to reverse the results of the electoral vote though?

2020-12-17 13:32:35 UTC [Zeducation #๐Ÿ’ฌ๏ฝœgeneral]  

Then it kind of looks like Biden is locked in as the next president, honeslty.

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