He certainly is spry in his old age for such a jump....

@DrStrange77 Just ignore "Thy Doctor"--he's an atheist as he revealed earlier on here. There are absolutely 100% NO glaring problems with the Bible. It's that his life contradicts what the Bible says and he therefore rejects it.

Yep, he's just got a beef against God, as basically every atheist I've ever met. Sad to say, my mother is one of them. Amazing how they can be so mad about Someone they say they don't believe is real!! I don't believe in Allah, but I don't get mad every time a Muslim talks about their false god. The anger of the atheist belies that deep down they know God is real, they just refuse to admit it.

@DrStrange77 I don't suppose you'd be one to doubt the Bible, since I suppose you're a believer, but if you know anything about it, do recall that it is Satan's M.O. from the beginning to cast doubt on God's word. The Bible tells us that without faith it is impossible to please God (Heb. 11:6). Therefore we ought approach the Bible with faith (Heb. 4:2). It is afterward that we really see the reasonableness, veracity, the 100% accuracy and reliability of the Bible. Atheists refuse the first, faith, therefore they remain in the dark, and fuss about 'contradictions' which more show their lack of understanding. They don't have a heart to understand. But, there is NO NEED WHATSOEVER to doubt the Bible, the correctly translated one, that is (more specifically the King James Bible).

Right, wait for the courts. I suspect Biden is going to claim tonight he's won. It has to be like that that Trump would allow it to happen. It has to be a declared victory for Biden before any courts would even listen to Trump when he appeals it as voter fraud. When he then goes to court he can trot out his massive evidence load and that will shut them all up and reverse this horrid mess they are trying to perpetrate on the American people.

Good, stick with it to your dying day! God has used and blessed it over four hundred years like no translation ever. There has been several widespread revivals and a long standing, incredibly fruitful missions movement (modern missions) generated under its influence that no other version has ever instigated. Really, since these modern versions have come out, there is less and less revival and heart for God and more and more carnality and worldliness. It is a ploy of Satan to get people confused, saying 'which one is the real word of God' so they then remain unbalanced spiritually and do not really get anywhere in their walk with the Lord.

Nope, now I see you are a Mormon, therefore. Sorry, I know the Bible much better than to go do that. No offense to you, mind you. But, please, let me say this since I hope it will help you come to the truth about it. The Apostle Paul about 1,800 years prior to Mormonism warned about something that Mormonism flagrantly and egregiously defies. Please read and apply the understanding of this to Mormonism: Gal. 1:8-9, "But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed." Strong words! But yet that is exactly what Joseph Smith claimed to have happened to him, that an angel appeared to him to give him revelation which ends up going against the Biblical Gospel. Those verses lay bare Mormonism as unbiblical, and therefore something unacceptable. As a Bible believing Christian I therefore cannot accept the Book of Mormon. And, if you view the Bible as the word of God, you should not view even by just his principle that the Book of Mormon is of God. God didn't forget what He said through Paul and somehow reveal something new and different (and contradictory to the Bible) to Joseph Smith 1,800 years later.

@DeButcher I'm just getting to your message to me from yesterday. I don't know what you are talking about "he had you in the first half, lol". I don't know about you, but I am a Bible-believing, born-again Christian. Is that the case with you? If so, your statement that it's always good to get informed about other religions is not an advisable thing to do for Christians. Jer. 10:2a says, "Learn not the way of the heathen". In Exo. 23:13 God forbid the Jews of even mentioning the name of the pagan idol gods, along with forbidding them from having the idol gods (20:3-5). Paul made no comparative religion speech when he spoke to the Athenians on Mars' Hill in Acts 17; instead, he chided them for their vain attempts at knowing the one true God, the God of the Bible, while still giving credence to a plethora of false gods, telling them in v. 22, "I perceive that in all things ye are too superstitious." Now, we are commanded to "be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:" (1 Pet. 3:15), and, Jude 3, "ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints." But, I don't see that as a charge to study out all religions. Instead, I have a duty simply to preach the Gospel (Mk. 16:15), and preach the word of God (2 Tim. 4:2). It is: study out the word of God (2 Tim. 2:15), not: study out unbiblical religions.

@DrStrange77 I'm just getting to your message from yesterday. No need to be sorry about how I feel. I am just taking what the Bible says and applying it to the situation, and seeing that Mormonism violates the clear and explicit command there in Gal. 1, seeing therefore it is not of God. No hard feelings or anything, I am just applying it and finding that Mormonism comes up wanting. The Bible is the sole authority for faith and practice--that was the keynote to the Protestant Reformation as well as the principle through the ages back to the beginning of Christianity of all Bible-believing Christians. When the last book of Revelation was penned down through John, God sealed His whole book of revelation, not just that from John, but the Bible overall with this in 22:18-19, "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book." Therefore, any and all additions to the revelation completed then are illegitimate and not of God. It's too bad that you think Mormonism is legitimate, but if you can see and understand what God was saying in Gal. 1 and Rev. 22 you should be consistent and realize Mormonism is not of God.

What does that have to do with anything?

I said nothing about it--you must have confused me with someone else.

Yep, no problem

@ARCADEIUS No, I do not consider it to be authentic. The only message from him that would be authentic that has lasted to this time is in Jude 14-15 and possibly verse 16 also, though that may just be Jude's commentary on the statement of Enoch. There are reasons why books of the Bible are considered authentic and why others are not. One of the prime factors is that nowhere in the 66 books is it mentioned that Enoch wrote a book, or that someone wrote a book of his message. He is only referred to in Gen. 5, the genealogy of Luke 3, Heb. 11:5 as a testimony of faith, and then in Jude. Nothing else. Regarding the timeframe you are trying to focus on, from Genesis 6, I recommend you watch these two helpful videos. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxoWpUCRnIk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3u71OB0LTiM

@DeButcher Okay, sorry, it was a peculiar statement to me

nope, didn't know it

do you have it on hand?

Should be able to or just DM it to me

@HUNTER4639 I just got back on here and see your message. I did not address you, but okay, I will respond. Galatians 1:8-9 and Rev. 22:18-19 are incontrovertibly clear. Yet, Mormonism comes along and defies those God given principles and guidelines and claims they are legitimate, defying the direct wording even warning not to even accept what an angel says that is different than the God-given Gospel. You claim only on the weak basis that you too are Christians because you say you believe in the same God, same Bible, life after death, Heaven and Hell exist, and more, but that list itself does not make anyone a Christian. It simply puts you on the same par as the devil and his cohorts--James 1:19, "Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble." They know all of that which you list, believe it, why they know it personally. But they are not Christians. There's more to it to being a Christian, and that is first of all that you get saved, or born again as Jesus calls it (John 3:3,7). That is being saved from your sins (Mt. 1:21), by the substitutionary sacrifice of the Lord Jesus Christ on the cross (Rom. 6:23), by believing He died for you (Rom. 5:8), and repenting of your sins (Lk. 13:3, 2 Pet. 3:9). It is trusting on Jesus and Jesus alone to save us, not on anything you can do to try to earn salvation (Eph. 2:8-9). Mormonism instead is a religion of works, earning your way to not even Heaven, but some imaginary planet named Kolob. It is starkly different than Biblical Christianity and thus does not deserve to be called Christian. And, I will still use Mormon for you all though you want to rebrand--rather strange when you have been called Mormons for so long, even your book still says that.

@corny🌽🌽 Would you please at least here refrain from using foul language? I know they permit it on this server, but it is really inappropriate for people here who as I assume are trying to learn more about the Bible and finding God. If you know the Bible much, God has something to say about it, Eph. 4:29, "Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers." I was convicted when I was a teenager for foul language from that verse. I hope it will help you.

Looks like election software has been a problem for a long time running, easily hackable, changeable. Note: this video was from Oct. 31, 2016.
https://youtu.be/Fob-AGgZn44

Yes, that is awesome to see that Oklahoma is one of two states where all the counties were red.

@Pal3Rid3r So what do you suspect will happen tomorrow, given what you have put here?

@Pal3Rid3r Well, someone already did, basically: Chris Christie

@SPRTNWRRYR1974 All sin is sin. The Bible does not clarify between mortal and venial. That is a false doctrine made up somewhere along the way by Catholics and it is a tradition that thereby nullifies clear Bible doctrine. A basic definition of sin is in 1 John 3:4, "Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law." That law is God's law. Cheating is in essence lying, and lying is covered in commandment #9 of the 10 Commandments. It is also stealing, which is commandment #8. All sin is bad enough to God that it separates us from Him, from having a relationship with Him--you may think something like that is trivial, but that is simply a sign that you're not very sensitive to it. God cannot even look on sin, Hab. 1:13, "Thou art of purer eyes than to behold evil, and canst not look on iniquity..." That's any and all sin. But, really, just to be sure, of the seven things in Prov. 6:16-19 that God calls an abomination to Him, lying is there twice: "a lying tongue" "A false witness that speaketh lies".

As for suicide, that is self-murder, and murder is commandment #6 of the 10. Please read the Bible--only it is infallible (and that the KJV), and authoritative. Whatever some man says is not authoritative because man is changeable. Everything that is taught must conform to the Bible for it is the sole standard for all matters of faith and practice.

Oooo, what a cute little baby!! How precious!!! <:salut:730846445732888630> <:AmericanFlag:720120797837918288>

My wife is glad about that since she's been a Braves fan since a kid, but we ditched pro sports for the stupid politics they play, especially their submission to BLM this year.

Sounds like the Catholic perspective has morphed into its own thing as separate from the Bible which is very specific of eye for eye, tooth for tooth, that any murderer is to be put to death, no question. The Catholic perspective as you pose it therefore is unstable and subject to the whims of whoever approaches it.

As for economically, if I was a teacher reading your paper, I would urge you to find out why it is the case that it is more expensive as you say for the cost of prosecution. Sounds like people that are too compassionate have set up the rules on purpose to dissuade from capital punishment.

Yes, but, the Catholics do a whole lot of things in disregard to the New Testament in favor of the Old Testament. There is no office of a priest in the New Testament. Every believer in Christ instead is a priest, having access directly to God. The Catholics on the principle of the Old Testament set up a priesthood like the Jews had so they would have their own system. There is a point to say they are not totally OT, but neither are they totally NT. They are a mix, a hybrid, which is what the big problem is. Like I said, unstable.

And, Catholics have by far not followed the verses that you bring out there. In the Middle Ages they are still guilty for killing 50 million people in the Inquisition. That is absolutely abhorrent.

It is not at all following the New Testament to go kill sectarians/heretics, but that's what they did, and they are guilty for it. They did the same in Croatia in World War II.

I read your statement there but couldn't see where her argument stopped and where yours might have begun.

The work of lawyers is hardly a reason against death penalty. Anything can be overpriced, but that does not mean it should be done or not.

Well, she was absolutely wrong about the death penalty not acting as a deterrence. What kind of logic is that! The cities that allow their citizens to have guns have little to no breakins because the thieves know there will be a 'death penalty' from the citizenry that they are risking. That's a deterrence!! But, the gun free zones are magnets for crime because the criminals know they are easy scores. Capital punishment is certainly a deterrent. Imposing severe penalties deters crime--as proven by the President coming in and imposing a 10 year prison sentence this year if people topple statues. The statue destruction stopped immediately!

So, her argument is unfounded. I don't care how smart she is touted as being.

Biblically, what should be argued is that God ordained to all of mankind that there is to be a death penalty: Gen. 9:5-6, "And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man. 6 Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man." That was when Noah and his family got out of the ark, before they got settled and before all of ancient history happened after that, including long before the start of the Israelites. So, that was a charge to all mankind that there was to be a death penalty for murder. People have just got away from how God initially commanded mankind to do it, and that's why things get to becoming a mess.

And, Froski, most of what you cited from the Bible there in the NT is about Christians and their personal reaction to others, especially in regard to persecution. There is to be no vengeance taken by Christians on those that persecute them, even if it is physically violent what they receive from them. As for government, the NT does not set up a government because Christians have no business starting governments, just living exemplary lives as they can, as well as giving others the Gospel so they can be saved, and serving God.

Therefore, if we are to look to the Bible for precedent on the government and law, which has been done in America since the beginning up until recent history, the model is the OT. But, yet, it too is a mix, for there is a freedom of religion, which is a concept from the NT. So, that is why the government is based on Judeo-Christian values.

@VirtualTools_ Your question has no connection to the statements you cited from me, though I suppose that was not the focus of your question but of your preliminary statement. I assume you think so from other things I've said here in this. To answer, no, absolutely not. I am in full favor of separation of church and state as initially set forth by the Constitutional framers and contemporaries. I have written on it, and I teach it and advocate it. As it was intended then, it is a Biblically Christian principle. However, it is not inherently a Catholic principle for they have been very intermixed with government through the centuries, even today--why would a church have ambassadors to governments and ambassadors of governments to them? They are acting like their own country, which is entirely foreign to the Bible. But, that is off topic since these are about polls here. If you want to discuss it more you can DM me.

Isa. 5:20, "Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!"

@Milkgamer55 Great thing! Glad to hear it. Is today the anniversary of that? You should try to mark it every year. It absolutely was the right decision for you, and good for you!

@Christmas Bat Melinoë There are several things that ought be addressed that you stated that are conflicting and confused in your understanding. First of all, I have to say that no one can say they are homosexual and Christian at the same time. Do you accept that homosexuality is a sin? You should. The Bible firmly declares that (Lev. 18:22, 20:13, et al.). We do not determine what sin is, only God through His word determines what is sin, and sin is a breaking of God's law (1 John 3:4). God has expressly forbidden homosexuality. It goes further than that and says it is also an abomination. At any rate, no one remaining in that sin or any other sin can honestly also call themselves a Christian. Do this not sound contradictory: someone declares they are a bank robber and a Christian. Or, that they are a murderer and a Christian. Doesn't go together. Same with homosexuality. Biblically, thus from God Himself who created and made us, we all are created to be heterosexual as well as monogamous (Gen. 1:27, 2:24). God considers sexual relationship to only be legitimate within the bonds of marriage (Heb. 13:4). And that marriage is only legitimate in the eyes of God as a man with a woman, not a woman and woman, or man and a man--Jesus Himself said that, repeating those things from Genesis (Mt. 19:4-6). God created them Adam and Eve in the Garden, not Adam and Steve. Getting away from a heterosexual basis is getting away from God's created purpose and intention as well as fraught with problems.

Look up the verses that I referenced and you will see that it is a sin

I can refer more to you

Listen, if you just ignore what I'm saying from the Bible and claim it is not a sin you are only fooling yourself.

Just like you are fooling yourself to think that a cross object will protect you from demons.

No, He did not. That is a lie that people have made up about it. Granted, He was around sinners--but He was calling them to repentance. Thus, I too am calling you to repentance about your sin of homosexuality.

Jesus expressly illustrated that even a thought of lust is sin (Mt. 6:27-28)

homosexuality is a perverted form of lust

@Meryl.140.15 As you said, 'this is not confession'--but I wanted to address the misunderstanding of this person since they are not aware what the Bible says about homosexuality.

Lust is still sin. Read the passages I referred you to.

I am a born-again Christian who loves God and wants other people to be saved, to know the Lord Jesus Christ as their personal Saviour. I am an evangelistic Christian, trying to help others to know the Gospel--and part of that is helping them realize that they have sinned and stand before God already condemned, and their only hope is the Lord Jesus Christ.

I'm not denying I'm a sinner, but I won't bow to the pressure of people trying to demand I tell my sin.

Reread what I just wrote

Everyone is a sinner

If anything, this is just deflection away from the issue--homosexuality is a sin. The Bible proclaims that it is so. You can't get around it. Why did God burn up Sodom and Gomorrah?

I'm not judging, I'm addressing misunderstanding

@Dstar_Destroyer I am being civil and not getting angry

Okay, no problem.

Okay, well you somehow missed Lev. 18:22, "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." That is a command of God and to break it is a sin. Thus, the Bible shows homosexuality is a sin.

@Meryl.140.15 Your insistence of me answering you whom I didn't address anything to is merely deflection, distraction away from what is the point and issue at hand.

@Black Box Painting Could care less? That should be terrifying to you. No contrition in that. Isa. 66:2, "For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those things have been, saith the LORD: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word."

One day you will be judged by God, and that will not be a good day if you don't humble yourself and submit yourself to Him that you've sinned before Him and need His grace and mercy.

That's their own problem. They will realize they've made a mistake, but it will be too late.

Someone waving their hand and declaring the Bible doesn't apply to them is sad ignorance. They will have to give an account one day.

Well, maybe you've hardened your heart too much to be humble enough and sensitive to what God says in His word that it is a sin.

Why should God give you a sign something is wrong when it's plain in the Bible it is wrong and a sin

@Black Box Painting That's wrong, and you certainly have not read the Bible very objectively. Hell exists and it is a real place of fire and torment.

@Christmas Bat Melinoë But you are saying you've turned yourself off to God's word which plainly condemns homosexuality as a sin.

Okay, see what I'm saying, it is a contradiction that you want to say you are a homosexual and a Christian, and there's evidence you are not if you are on the verge of using God's name in vain, as a cuss word.

Good, you stopped yourself. But, I'm saying that it appears to be on the tip of your tongue.

Okay, I am an honest Christian who is merely out of genuine Christian love trying to help you understand what God's word, the Bible, says about your situation. If you don't want to hear it, that's your responsibility.

It's somehow not coming through--it's a simple meme saying "If your God lets you do whatever you want...then your God is really you!"

Somehow the format is too big.

Just using it to prove a point to you

@Christmas Bat Melinoë Good, but what does that have to do with that you are just trying to not see from the Bible that homosexuality is a sin?

How was that manipulative? Someone that says they are comfortable with something, that they don't feel bad about what they are doing though the Bible clearly is against it, it is a logical conclusion.

I'm wrong? How? How do I understand Leviticus and such wrong?

Lev. 18:22 is clear in basically every version so it does not matter.

You are the one alleging I'm wrong so you must prove it so

I just told you that Lev. 18:22 is clear in basically every version

Yes, God loves everyone, He loves the world, but that doesn't mean He loves what they are doing

@Meryl.140.15 I wasn't talking to you, please stop trying to distract from the point here. My statements on homosexuality from the Bible are the primary issue, prior to yours.

You are wrong about your statement that you think the Bible says God is in everyone. That is not in the Bible.

Okay--give me book, chapter and verse where it is

@Christmas Bat Melinoë That's your verse to prove God is in everybody?? Wrong verse.

Okay, I am judging righteous judgment. I'm using the Bible, the word of God, to tell you about the nature of what you profess is fine and right.

You are very persistent to distract from this. Why? I already said I'm a born-again, honest Christian that loves people and wants them to be saved. I already said I'm a sinner. I don't have to confess sins to you, only to God. So the insistence I have to tell you my sin is malicious and snarky.

The verses you are referring to do not state nor even lean toward that God is in everyone

You can keep trying to look but you won't find anything to support what you said.

I know because I have read through the Bible dozens of times.

I'm off the hook? So you're going to stop prodding me with your uncharitable, snarky question?

Love your neighbor doesn't prove your assertion that God is in everyone.

@Christmas Bat Melinoë Not sure what you are trying to acheive other than some kind of lecture which I assume you are trying to allege like I should accept that homosexuality is not a sin because I as a Christian am supposed to act in love toward others and love my neighbor. That's a good principle, sure, but it does not mean that the person that loves others should accept their sins as valid. The covering of sin is good, from 1 Pet. 4:8, but that in this case is to go and get it solved, dealt with so it won't be a problem for you anymore. God says homosexuality is a sin. He doesn't approve of it.