Not recognised by the UN, EU, international community. However the deal had been softened by the recent sale of F35’s to UAE by trump.

Yes sir

I stutter to think lol

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One would think but no intervention was made in Hong Kong.

Neither is China with Taiwan ?

War moves are different from being at war. The conflict truly is more surrounding the disputed man made islands near Taiwan

And the whole Hong Kong conflict has ended up costing us (Britain) we’ve opened up citizenship for 4m honk kong citizens.

I’m still ranting about it.

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They are preparing for it. Biden will probably do nothing. China does not like Biden.

Yes they do.

Biden may like China, they don’t. China likes Trump more regardless of what is being displayed publicly. China only yesterday congratulated Biden.

Not a good start, not sure where that weird case will go. Rocket man is crazy though.

Yes he is.

He called Trump fat I think...it was hilarious and then the bromance started...

Never.

Yes. China can afford the trade wars, the US cannot. And let’s not forget the US taken on many trade wars. Canada, Mexico, EU

In the U.K. our Government dropped the ball on Covid.

If we acted like Taiwan (compared to population) we should have around 30 deaths. We have 60,000.

60,000 is already a bloodbath

Why? Our intelligence agencies were not monitoring what was going on in China? Taiwan learned everything from the US CDC.

It is more unfortunately

Our numbers are not accurate. We have more 60k+ deaths.

We can never have 100% accurate results. But it’s very suspicious when our government randomly adds 5000 deaths to the over numbers because of a spreadsheet error. Everyone is massaging the numbers.

It’s extremely suspicious, numbers are updated from the counties daily and reported. How can we add 5000? If they went in reported I can understand but the government claims it was a spreadsheet glitch.

They are always doing something.

You are welcome to, but it for me it has been the governments mishandling.

Yes bumbling Boris 🤦‍♂️ he genuinely doesn’t have a clue. And I vote conservative.

It’s not just me. The whole country believes it’s the Governments handling. Taiwan acted in December we acted in April. The country went into lockdown but the flights remained open from China New York and Italy with no test at ports. No track and trace system operational throughout. After the first lockdown we had no exit strategy. Our handling of PPE was woeful and still is. I can go on...

Yes landslide victory.

Taiwan acted in December we acted in April. The country went into lockdown but the flights remained open from China New York and Italy with no test at ports. No track and trace system operational throughout. After the first lockdown we had no exit strategy. Our handling of PPE was woeful and still is. I can go on...

The only thing we did handle correctly was the furlough scheme.

If we compare populations we should 27deaths. We have 60,000+

We all went into lockdown, what do we have to compare? We abided by the rules...the government did not. It’s about applying the protocols to the system not the people.

Terrible start and it continues

Agreed. Furthermore we are opening up lockdown for five days for Christmas. This will be disastrous.

U.K. is up 600 deaths a week / every week on average compared to last 5 years.

Have to get the balance right. We cannot seem to do so with Boris.

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Who said anything about closing the economy. We just said the government handled it wrong

What media narrative. It’s all in front of me I love here lol

The counter argument would be In my opinion the Affidavits/lawsuit can be countered.Votes were hand counted and tally up, the State has audited the technology and software before and after the election. Audits carried out by 6 governmental and private companies with a combined experience of 100years+ who can provide the motherboards and processors for audit. The affidavit and the guys analysis sitting at home will probably fall short.

It’s all already done. Reports available online.

None as it stand because they haven’t been notarised? Not under penalty of perjury?

How many have been notarised ?

Waxworks

Thank you

Sounds accurate. To win the information war.

In 2016 Russian hacked the Clinton campaign but nobody hacked the Trump campaign. I really do wonder what the Russians got upto this time around...not saying any of these cases hold any water.

Israeli Mossad. Happened many times before.

The US has held off attacking Iranian nuclear installations over the years and have stopped Israel. Instead opting for cyber warfare. We all remember stuxnet which started under bush and continued under Obama. These days during the lasts of the presidency I have no idea what will happen.

Trump is being pressured to go to war with Iran by UAE, SaudiArabia & Israel. Because they are all afraid of losing monarchy’s.

Nothing changes, somebody else will take his place. A small setback for the Iranians.

It’s the world we live in, where we don’t condemn extra judicial killings.

Trump shutdown the Pandemic Response Agency too...pretty much everything Obama did he ripped apart

Who will he go to war with?

Democracy

My question is why would the two parties do this to each other? The only ones losing out are Americans.

Ridiculous. I’ve seen it play out over the second stimulus cheque. Like wtf.

I’m new to US internal politics 5 years...more extensive knowledge on US foreign policy.

US drone crossed over into Iranian airspace & hijacking of our British ship was a response to us hijacking several Iranian ships. We’ve been poking Iran for a long time, they are weak...unable to respond, a lot of sabre rattling.

Tony Blair was a great Prime Minister before he bombed Iraq. It would have been in the House of Commons and he always well articulated in responding to questions of the opposition. It’s a weekly debate. Boris is unfortunately no longer up to it, he cannot handle himself or respond adequately, the leader of the opposition (Keir Starmer) is a former magistrate and holds himself like Tony Blair. Boris looks tired & will likely step down in 2021. David Cameron was an excellent Prime Minister.

It’s a good political debate and the very point of the opposition, to hold the Government of day to account...always good to have a good opposition at the end of the day we get on the side of Governments and hope they do best for the country. I would definitely encourage everyone to watch parliamentary debates, very entertaining by all accounts. Tony Blair definitely handled himself well, they don’t make them the same anymore.

Press briefings are hardly holding elected officials to account.

Kayleigh McEnany has been entertaining, literally Mini Trump

If you want watch something that will blow your mind related to Russian collusion and trump saying the 2016 election was rigged. Very good documentary:

https://www.hbo.com/video/documentaries/agents-of-chaos/videos/trailer

You’re welcome. If you watch it let me know what you think, very interesting watch.

Let’s take it easy gentlemen. 2020 has been a weird year.

You all have guns!

Keep me posted please. Thank you.

it is what it is.

Here in the U.K. they are giving us five days for Christmas and mixing of 6 families and then draconian measures until Easter. Outrageous, we’ll let the virus run rampant in five days and then we’ll go into lockdown.

I had no problems adhering to the rules at the start of the pandemic, but now not so more. The handling of the pandemic has been woeful. So bad it makes us look like third world countries.

Our election system is fine, we just have a leader who cannot handle the pressure. Right party wrong cabinet.

I agree, I saw the information from China in December. The government did nothing until March.

Do you have a link? Thank you.

Thank you. I’ll look it up.

Nothing can shock in 2020 🤣

Thank you.

Will anything come from the investigation or is this just optics?

Extremely transparent, not jeopardising sources and methods of course.

Didn’t Trump wish maxwell “good luck” or something in regards to her recent litigation issues ?

Just like Prince Andrew.

I did not know that.

Well Prince Andrew made sure he let the world know about his love for Epstein.

I used “Prince” for the benefit of this chat room lol. Andrew definitely has issues.

In fairness Saville got one over everyone...from royals to politicians all the way through to charities.

Yes he was.

What would he have done?

I understand all of that should be done, I agree with you...but is that not up to the local authorities/law enforcement?

Shouldn’t he have said nothing at all? And not comment on any legal case?

I agree with you I just feel others could have done more?

I don’t understand why we are still talking about pedo guy?

No conspiracy. I’m sure he could have, even if it was just yelling from Twitter...it would have put the spotlight on Epstein

Nothings a lost cause. Epstein just had to die, many were lining up...

Whose word?

The Oxford AstraZeneca vaccine is a general vaccine not mRNA. I would opt for this one.

Any wisdom is much appreciated.