MartinLutherMan

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Apostolic succession as you understand it isn't Biblical.

The Catholic church was wrong (objectively) on many things. Do you support the selling of indulgences?

There was always a real church. They were the ones your demonic organization was burning alive for having the Bible in their language.

You think indulgences are permitted? You think man has the authority to sell salvation? You think faith in Christ can be sold?

You can't sell believe on Christ. So you either believe. Are you saying faith in Christ doesn't save?

Your clergy inherited gluttony and murder, but never any real spritual authority I'm afraid. None. Zip. Nothing.

"Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling."
-Phillippians 2:12

I literally demolished your lazy James 2:24 garbage. Same thing every Catholic says. I had to explain to you what James was saying.

Man must come to His own knowledge of Christ. It cannot be sold to him.

"Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ"
-Romans 5:1

The early church shared all things in common. They were killed for lying about the price of their house, has nothing to do with Apostolic authority and Peter has nothing to do with your church: He'd hate it.

"Wherefore the law was our schoolmasterย to bring usย unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith"
-Galatians 3:24

Giving away your goods is a good thing, but it has nothing to do with salvation.

The Catholic Church is still no church as it preaches a false Gospel.

"But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed."
-Galatians 1:8

If you believe salvation can be earned by works, you believe a false Gospel. I've shown you several verses that without a doubt teach salvation is through faith alone.

You've shown me one that you simply didn't understand.

Salvation is through faith alone, but saving faith is never alone.

You called Luther a heretic, but you have the same view as him on justification.

"All scriptureย isย given by inspiration of God, andย isย profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness"
- 2 Timothy 3:16

The selling of indulgences contradicts scripture, the repetitious prayers contradicts scripture, the murder contradicts scripture. Several things the Catholic church does and teaches contradicts scripture. It was literally the frequency of your violation of scripture that lead to us realizing the scriptures alone speak for God.

Again, you haven't proven you have Peter's authority. You don't

Also, Jesus was saying the rock of Peter's confession, not Peter was the foundation of the church.

Was Jesus when He condemned the practice in John 8?

Jesus directly taught against stoning lol

Jesus fulfilled the law, we are no longer under it and He was clearly teaching that all have sinned and we can no longer stone sinners. "All men have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God."-Romans 3:23

"He that is without sin, cast the first stone."

I do, however, wanna apologize for being rude earlier.

The Catholic conversation is touchy.

@Dirt Pig Sorta. The people of Israel and their law were intended to show man's fallen nature. This is laid out in Romans and Galatians. The law existed to prove that man could not live according to a moral standard, that we are in sin and in need of a savior.

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