or stop the trolling.

In the chat, obviously.

Hmmm

That doesn't count, since their product for the corporation they work for is more than their wages.

Snowing like a fucker in Seattle right now.

I've got a mother in law, through my sister...which I guess is an aunt in law. She's illegal. She works hard, does well. Sends 80% of her wages to Mexico for the family there. Lives of my sister because her son that married my sister is just getting on his feet.

She's a net loss, as far as I'm concerned.

Convince me most aren't like her, since anecdotal evidence is apparently okay.

Did this motherfucker just provided links to two uncredited piece of shit articles?

I'll read them, I'm just asking.

Fuck your articles.

Well, it sucks.

@CasualSailor I'm not sure they're great people.

no, just want the facts, and I don't trust you to report them.

Want me to link my previous statements here? They carry the same weight.

Then provide their info.

You suck.

I wan

Want data.

It should be easy to link if you're sol confident.

I dont need your articles. If immigrants are a positive, there will be plenty of better authored articles with your point.

You're not the source I need.

Cool.

Yet, when I asked for data, you provided that.

And article by an amateur.

Okay, let's see the economist's data.

I don't care for your reasearch.

I don't need to go personal on a broad-appeal issue such as this.

Or you could just link them.

That fact that this is so hard leads me to believe you don't actually believe it.

Would you like some data from my side?

It will come from better sources.

I didn't ask that, nor is that an issue,

You interpretation is nonsense.

Then link it.

I don't need you commentary on their data

Let's see the data and go.

I'd like the data.

All violent crime committed by illegals is violent crime that could be eliminated with little effort.

5 billion is "little effort" in the score of the US government.

Wait, an anti-waller is calling people unreasonable.

If people can crate economic growth, shouldn't they come in legally?

Since there's plenty of people waiting to come in legally?

More people means more business and more money in a world where there's no public support.

I'm all for uncontrolled immigration if there's no public education and no public welfare like it was when all these white folks invaded.

We also had the mafia, for whatever that's worth.

@CasualSailor I refuse to believe that it costs $15,000/year to educate a kid in a world where teachers make $50,000 tops to educate 30 kids, but the point stands.

In the meantime, this entire chat has devolved to teaching an idiot that thinks their beliefs are on equal standing with ours, which devalues everything we think.

Open borders is not an equal argument to closed borders, regardless of what this individual thinks.

It's logic.

Okay, so let's assume illegal immigrants aren't a net drain on the system.

How would Asian countries approach a whole group of Muricans coming in and not assilimating?

Yet they recieve.

You speak like a fresh in college 22 year old, so how old are you @RekItRalph ?

Live in Seattle, saw Beto shit. All I needed to see to know it was a ploy.

Texas Senate signs in Seattle?

Seriously, if you're going to Spanish-ify a Senate campaign, perhaps do it with a name that doesn't intensity an opposition meme.

We're in a part of history that will be remembered, This period of social media and social media models telling people to go hard (generally left) will be studied in the future

Though, the hard right policies of the TEA party will be a footnote.

Rush constantly states that conservative policy will win the day. There's just as large a portion of the populous that thinks the opposite.

And, since they trend younger on the left, they will win.

As long as they're isolated from the results of their policy.

@CasualSailor As sad as it is, that's "hard right" now.

This is a spiral, and the only hamper is to go far right, which is stupid in today's politics.

It's not fiscal, it's social.

And the past "conservative-ish" candidates have proven that.

If you're for conservative principles on spending, you're against minorities because the welfare programs tend to benefit minorities.

I remember life prior to outright class warfare and appreciate that.

I get that Pendel.

now sell that.

Politics isn't about good policy, it's about what you can sell.

And I'm a salesperson.

I see that's going on.

I was on unemployment for a while during the recession, benefits got extended and I did everything I could up to my monthly limit. Drank, smoked, hung out.

never tried to get a job.

I assume that's what welfare is like, since I lived it.

Good, we need a western revolution.

People don't sign up for stupid shit.