mateitheking

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2018-12-19 10:23:52 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I want a theocracy with me as king

2018-12-19 10:24:09 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Basically would be the USA

2018-12-19 10:24:14 UTC [Subverse #general]  

but with Christians

2018-12-19 10:25:53 UTC [Subverse #general]  

If they were to follow the word of God they shouldn't be emotional

2018-12-19 10:26:00 UTC [Subverse #general]  

the rules are written

2018-12-19 10:27:12 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Roman's

2018-12-19 10:27:30 UTC [Subverse #general]  

has the rules

2018-12-19 10:28:57 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I said basically the same

2018-12-19 10:29:11 UTC [Subverse #general]  

easily remove that

2018-12-19 10:32:08 UTC [Subverse #general]  

But remember there would be no need to remove the first amendment if my country is full of Christian

2018-12-19 10:32:33 UTC [Subverse #general]  

You can have free speech

2018-12-19 10:33:32 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Christians aren't supposed to force you to convert

2018-12-19 10:33:42 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Thats between you and God

2018-12-19 10:34:34 UTC [Subverse #general]  

The truth

2018-12-19 10:34:42 UTC [Subverse #general]  

people's will always reject the truth

2018-12-19 10:35:12 UTC [Subverse #general]  

that's illogical

2018-12-19 10:36:10 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Do you know the laws of logic?

2018-12-19 10:36:17 UTC [Subverse #general]  

doesn't seem like it

2018-12-19 10:36:42 UTC [Subverse #general]  

the statement truth is subjective is illogical

2018-12-19 10:36:56 UTC [Subverse #general]  

truth is either true or its not true

2018-12-19 10:37:19 UTC [Subverse #general]  

The objective truth

2018-12-19 10:37:20 UTC [Subverse #general]  

God

2018-12-19 10:37:34 UTC [Subverse #general]  

And you know that how? @Dr.Wol

2018-12-19 10:39:22 UTC [Subverse #general]  

The claim there is no evidence for him to exist doesn't disprove that he exists

2018-12-19 10:39:34 UTC [Subverse #general]  

nice copy and paste

2018-12-19 10:39:35 UTC [Subverse #general]  

oof

2018-12-19 10:39:57 UTC [Subverse #general]  

@Dr.Wol Do you believe in the laws of logic?

2018-12-19 10:40:03 UTC [Subverse #general]  

there are 4 laws

2018-12-19 10:41:18 UTC [Subverse #general]  

The law of non contradiction
the law of excluded middle
the law of identity

2018-12-19 10:41:21 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I forgot the 4th

2018-12-19 10:41:24 UTC [Subverse #general]  

it's fine though

2018-12-19 10:41:37 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Do you believe in those?

2018-12-19 10:42:01 UTC [Subverse #general]  

there is a 4th in deeper philosophy

2018-12-19 10:42:35 UTC [Subverse #general]  

maybe there is just 3

2018-12-19 10:42:39 UTC [Subverse #general]  

what ever

2018-12-19 10:42:51 UTC [Subverse #general]  

The law of identity: P is P.
The law of noncontradiction: P is not non-P.
The law of the excluded middle: Either P or non-P.

2018-12-19 10:43:11 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Now do you believe in those?

2018-12-19 10:44:43 UTC [Subverse #general]  

God doesn't fall outside of those three

2018-12-19 10:44:51 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Now why do you believe in them?

2018-12-19 10:45:11 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Yes the laws of logic

2018-12-19 10:45:33 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Why do you believe in them?

2018-12-19 10:45:36 UTC [Subverse #general]  

not my argument

2018-12-19 10:46:15 UTC [Subverse #general]  

You don't understand them

2018-12-19 10:46:23 UTC [Subverse #general]  

there is no both

2018-12-19 10:46:41 UTC [Subverse #general]  

The law of identity: P is P.
The law of noncontradiction: P is not non-P.
The law of the excluded middle: Either P or non-P.

2018-12-19 10:48:03 UTC [Subverse #general]  

either is 9 or its not 9

2018-12-19 10:48:07 UTC [Subverse #general]  

ahh

2018-12-19 10:48:08 UTC [Subverse #general]  

OK

2018-12-19 10:48:19 UTC [Subverse #general]  

so either its correct or its wrong

2018-12-19 10:48:23 UTC [Subverse #general]  

there is no middle

2018-12-19 10:48:54 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Define truth

2018-12-19 10:49:33 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Weird definition

2018-12-19 10:49:55 UTC [Subverse #general]  

define knowledge

2018-12-19 10:50:04 UTC [Subverse #general]  

~~a justified true belief~~

2018-12-19 10:50:12 UTC [Subverse #general]  

is the definition

2018-12-19 10:50:57 UTC [Subverse #general]  

To understand reality do you use the laws of logic?

2018-12-19 10:51:38 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Since you believe the Laws of logic are true can you prove them?

2018-12-19 10:52:34 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Why do you believe it then?

2018-12-19 10:53:44 UTC [Subverse #general]  

To prove the laws of logic you would have to use the laws of logic.

2018-12-19 10:54:28 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Either you use them or everything you say is illogical

2018-12-19 10:54:53 UTC [Subverse #general]  

You haven't?

2018-12-19 10:55:01 UTC [Subverse #general]  

How are you reading what I type?

2018-12-19 10:55:10 UTC [Subverse #general]  

you are using them

2018-12-19 10:55:19 UTC [Subverse #general]  

P is p

2018-12-19 10:55:24 UTC [Subverse #general]  

you means you

2018-12-19 10:55:30 UTC [Subverse #general]  

law of identity

2018-12-19 10:56:41 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I'm trying to have a discussion with you

2018-12-19 10:56:47 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I'm not talking about what is p

2018-12-19 10:57:32 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Just debating

2018-12-19 10:57:40 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Why do you?

2018-12-19 10:58:37 UTC [Subverse #general]  

to say that it's reasonable would already be using the laws of logic

2018-12-19 10:58:44 UTC [Subverse #general]  

begging the question fallacy

2018-12-19 11:00:53 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Of course but I'm speaking on both of our foundations

2018-12-19 11:01:15 UTC [Subverse #general]  

But can you prove the laws of logic?

2018-12-19 11:01:59 UTC [Subverse #general]  

math already used the laws of logic

2018-12-19 11:02:06 UTC [Subverse #general]  

begging the question fallacy

2018-12-19 11:02:58 UTC [Subverse #general]  

it is

2018-12-19 11:03:15 UTC [Subverse #general]  

"no, but it would be illogical to assume he does based on 0 evidence"

give me evidence for the laws of logic

2018-12-19 11:03:45 UTC [Subverse #general]  

If you don't want to continue we can stop

2018-12-19 11:04:05 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Nope

2018-12-19 11:04:09 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I am not

2018-12-19 11:04:29 UTC [Subverse #general]  

you are using an axiom that is unjustified

2018-12-19 11:04:40 UTC [Subverse #general]  

which is a fallacy

2018-12-19 11:05:15 UTC [Subverse #general]  

justify it

2018-12-19 11:05:17 UTC [Subverse #general]  

prove it

2018-12-19 11:05:51 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Math is using the laws of logic

2018-12-19 11:06:03 UTC [Subverse #general]  

you can't justify the laws of logic using math

2018-12-19 11:06:07 UTC [Subverse #general]  

because math uses them

2018-12-19 11:06:42 UTC [Subverse #bot-commands]  

t!rank

2018-12-19 11:06:46 UTC [Subverse #bot-commands]  

!rank

2018-12-19 11:07:09 UTC [Subverse #general]  

We designed them?

2018-12-19 11:07:27 UTC [Subverse #general]  

So without humans the laws of logic aren't a thing?

2018-12-19 11:07:42 UTC [Subverse #general]  

@JohnOakman ๐Ÿ‘Œ

2018-12-19 11:08:45 UTC [Subverse #general]  

So without humans would a rock be a rock?

2018-12-19 11:08:51 UTC [Subverse #general]  

or would it be something else?

2018-12-19 11:09:18 UTC [Subverse #general]  

semantics

2018-12-19 11:10:30 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Knowledge is a justified true belief

2018-12-19 11:10:51 UTC [Subverse #general]  

that's illogical

2018-12-19 11:10:58 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I'm done

2018-12-19 11:11:04 UTC [Subverse #general]  

take a class in philosophy

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