TheodenKing
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So what does any of this have to do with economics
My take on economics: buying power and opportunity
If people have both the economy will boom, if they have one but not the other it will stagnate, and if people donโt have either, it will collapse fast
I just read a bunch about evolution
Oh
Well yes then poverty is due to a lack of opportunity
People canโt ever better themselves due to things they cannot control
So, for example if college was accessible for more people, and corporations were held to paying higher wages, and healthcare was covered by tax dollars, more people could rise from poverty
Lowering the opportunity costs allow for more people to enter the pool, and more people are able to make more money, which they spend on more things, allowing companies to hire more workers, and so on
Then itโs their fault
Doesnโt mean the programs shouldnโt exist for those who want to put in the effort
Well if they have no hope, itโs hard to see any opportunity is there
And right now there really isnโt
Both
Iโm from a rural area, people are resorting to hard drugs because thereโs nothing for them here
Our towns are falling apart, people are moving out, the only thing holding this area up is tourism
Yes
Vermont
And I will admit my state has it pretty good considering.
But there are those towns that are hurting bad
For me there is I can afford to go to college
What about my friend jarrett whose family couldnโt afford to send him to state school then lost everything in a fire?
What about those farmers losing their land due to a city focused agenda
Ah but he went there one semester
He tried to better himself
But he gave up because he had no hope
He couldnโt afford it
It was too much stress
Ah so you think poverty is a psychological problem?
Donโt you think that the state of the economy is what is messing with people rather than their minds?
I consider myself to be an Agrarian Social Democrat. Pretty much, focus on keeping family businesses alive, foster hope and opportunity for the next generation, bust the banks and monopolies, hold corporate power in check. Pretty much a Teddy Roosevelt type
So I do think the economy is what is affecting the mentality of people . If youโre looking at the stock market youโll see something that doesnโt correlate with every day American lives
Only the coastal elites think the economy is doing well
I have fixes
Raise the minimum wage. Free public college, Medicare for all,
To name a few
Increase union power, break up large corporations
Protect small businesses and family farms
Well thatโll foster competition
Walmart
Is that a nice job?
Amazon
But they run family businesses out of town
For example, Haverhill New Hampshire
Thereโs a Walmart
Completely destroyed the downtown
Amazon runs bookstores out of business
How can there be a strong economy of competition, when corporations are allowed to run freely and gain infinite power
You sound like a communist, people shouldnโt be โhappy to have a jobโ, people should be able to feel capable of more
Jobs are created but theyโre dead end jobs
Ah but if you canโt afford it then what?
Well simply break up the big corporations
Ideally Iโd advocate for worker owned co-ops with government set limits on the number of franchises
But
Well yes theyโd flee the sinking ship and with the opportunity, make their own business and foster a stronger and more fair capitalist system
But the problem is that there are no small businesses anymore
No one goes out thinking theyโll be able to start a business thatโs not a YouTube channel
Well I would love to myself
But you see, the market is too flooded with existing companies with way too much money
Well, there are few repair shops around here
Because itโs all jiffy lube
There is no community connection anymore
Small town USA is dead
The American dream is dead
And what fostered both of those things?
FDR
Itโs because those in power were corrupted by the wealthy
Where are you from
What state though
Itโs not that people canโt start one, itโs that they canโt really succeed
But is it now? No
Not in my area
Small businesses just keep getting run out
Shut down
So youโd rather lose the small town feel, for a few saved dollars and more workers on minimum wage
Oh I know that
But our farms are closing too
Itโs not viable anymore
The big factory farms are too efficient and they donโt care about the consumers, the land, of the animals
And Iโd much rather get my food from a farmer in my state than factory bred from across the country
But farming shouldnโt be high tech
No it would lose the connection between people and food
If thereโs no care put into the production of food, then the quality goes to hell in the name of effecency
Okay Iโm guessing you live in a city
Okay how many people in your town
Okay. My town has less than 1000 people in it
And this is why trump won. Because no one cares for the middle between hick and city
What have I not researched?
Sure I havenโt written a paper on the damage wrought by big companies, but Iโve seen it with my own eyes
And Trump hasnโt helped anybody but his pals
Just another corrupt elitist
Heโs running farms out of business as we speak, with his tariffs and all
Iโm in classes most of the day
Probably around 1 EST
For a little bit
Yes
I donโt usually debate about small business
Iโm more of a Medicare for all debater
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