lancelout
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you lied
Source ?
East germany was almost third world by 1990
germany has spent trillions
and to this day east germany is still comparatively backwards
dude
this is getting tiresome
zero sources
consistent lying
you can draw a line across europe of old soviet states
as to this day you can see economic weakness and backwardness caused by socialism
East germany had crumbling infrastructure and 1970s tier factories still producing vacuum tubes
one moment translating
okay
here we go
Before…the Third Reich the East German economy had…per capita national income…103 percent of West Germany, compared to a mere 31 percent in 1991
"Before…the Third Reich the East German economy had…per capita national income…103 percent of West Germany, compared to a mere 31 percent in 1991"
so 103 percent GDP of west germany in 1945
end of ww2
you just said after
so east germany went from having 103 percent GDP
of west germany
to
31 percent
1990
here ill show original source
as its unclear
damn original book in behind pay wall of some sort
those numbers you posted
were garbage
mentioned in link I provided
soviet government provided garbage numbers for estimates
here are the facts june
Here are the facts june
east germany went from being ahead of west germany immediately after the war
to 30 percent of it and backwards
I already provided source on that
The stats I provided were soviet stats
jesus man this is getting sad
here ill post it again
In 1946, the Soviet zone had a slight total factor productivity lead
wartime industrialization had contributed more to the eastern economy, and the destruction caused by the war was lighter than in the west.[4] However, by 1948 the western zones had become more prosperous.[4]
Ritschl, A.; Vonyo, T. (17 April 2014). "The roots of economic failure: what explains East Germany's falling behind between 1945 and 1950?". European Review of Economic History. 18 (2): 166–184. doi:10.1093/ereh/heu004.
Abstract
The relative decline of the East German economy after 1945 has eluded researchers, as several large shocks appeared to have hit it at the same time. In this paper, we revisit the immediate post-war period in both parts of Germany to obtain a more comprehensive picture of the output and productivity shocks operating in both economies. Our principal finding is that the dismantling of the capital stock alone cannot explain the inferior performance of the East German economy. The collapse of output after the war and the ensuing recovery in both parts of the country were driven by total factor productivity; changes in factor endowments were of second-order significance. West Germany began to lead East Germany in industrial labor productivity well before the economic reforms of 1948 could make their mark. The major factor contributing to this early divergence were disproportions in industrial structure caused by the division of Germany.
East germany started out with a lead
and ended up a fraction of west germanys economy
and east germany was the most productive part of the soviet bloc
well it kind of does actually
the birthplace of capitalism
earliest adopters
you could argue east india , parts of africa diversifies capitalism within the world
but that doesnt really help your point
east india is experiencing explosive growth under capitalism
china was a failure until it started embracing certain aspects of capitalism
yes I am not sure why I said east india
but on the original point
you were proven incorrect
east germany had major lead in 1945 and by 1948 west germany pulled well ahead
bruh read beyond the abstract
dislocated ?
these "slave labours" appear to have multiple tvs
a car
a house
the concept that people have to functionally work to exist
due to realities of planet
is not the same as slave labour
well you suggested slave labour
which is clearly not true
June
its over man
the east germany apologetics and lies are just sad
Well yes
Your first claim
was that east german economy was behind west germans after ww2
it wasnt
that was a lie
I have already shown that
Look in the journal man
June read the journal
I provided a source
okay first
This line of research broadly agrees on the comparatively greater importance of post-war dismantling in East Germany. However, there still appears to be no clear consensus on the quantitative impact of these initial conditions, and on why they should have put East Germany on a path of persistent divergence from West Germany. Do relative factor endowments explain output and productivity performance in early post-war Germany? Do differences in factor endowments contribute to explaining why the two German economies evolved so differently after World War II?
This paper argues they do not. Upon careful re-examination of the evidence, we find that while movements in output as well as factor endowments and proportions were substantial, they are only second-order effects. Instead, what dominates the evidence is a combination of dramatic swings in total factor productivity (TFP). One is a veritable collapse in TFP following the breakdown of the German war economy, which we find in both parts of Germany. The other is a divergence between West German and East German TFP levels. The latter turned East German industry from having a non-trivial productivity lead over its western counterpart in 1946 to trailing West German productivity by the late 1940s, and rapidly losing ground.
The war-induced decline of TFP has been noticed in previous research. Sleifer (2006) showed that it had occurred in both East and West between 1936 and 1950. Eichengreen and Ritschl (2009) found that TFP in West Germany all but collapsed at the end of the war and subsequently recovered rapidly. This implies that movements in TFP were the dominant driver of West German economic growth between 1945
Total factor productivity:
also called multi-factor productivity, is usually measured as the ratio of aggregate output (e.g., GDP) to aggregate inputs.
the journal lays out TFP relationship to GDP
and the collapse of east german economy before even 1950
BY
the way
I looked into the source you provided
its as expected BS
dude read your own quotes
1945 onward is soviet control
about to start info dump
Our principal finding is that the dismantling of industrial assets alone cannot explain the inferior growth performance of the East German economy after the war. Instead, the slower growth of TFP in East Germany is by far the dominant explanation. Soviet reparations were crippling, and indeed reduced the capital–labor ratio in industry by approximately a third, as previously suggested. However, a large influx of refugees combined with more substantial wartime destruction in machinery and plant generated a decline in the West German capital–labor ratio as well. The principal source of both the initial decline of industrial production in both parts of post-war Germany and the subsequent divergence between them are changes in TFP rather than shifts in relative factor endowments.
well first june
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