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2017-10-22 17:54:46 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

This is a nice intro to your server, haha. Herro fliends.

2017-10-22 17:58:17 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

The bible does NOT define a YEAR lol

2017-10-22 17:58:42 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

When the bible lists generations it claims some lived 500+ years - Years are not even defined in the bible

2017-10-22 17:59:43 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

Ask him: 1) how does he know its 12000 or whatever in the bible? he will have to reference the various generations listed to come up with that number

2017-10-22 18:00:07 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

2) follow up with the question how do you know what a YEAR in the bible means?

2017-10-22 18:01:23 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

Christian god can exist, just like the Flying Spaghetti Monster

2017-10-22 18:02:54 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

Don't go there it's a TRAP

2017-10-22 18:04:19 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

Lol talk about Christianity, suddenly "the jews" - you guys are hillarious

2017-10-22 18:08:06 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

Jews don't claim that 1 year in bible = 1 year in current world

2017-10-22 18:08:20 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

1 year in bible can be 1 million years on Sol

2017-10-22 18:09:14 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

Ask him how he knows 1 year in bible = 1 year on Earth

2017-10-22 18:11:58 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

ASK him WHAT the counted - they counted Generations of figures in Bible

2017-10-22 18:12:26 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

They counted something that cannot be counted to reach 6000 years lol

2017-10-22 18:12:40 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

They counted wrong according to the bible itself

2017-10-22 18:13:08 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

You can prove him wrong WITHIN his world view because they counted something that cannot be counted.

2017-10-22 18:14:13 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

When you ask him how old is Earth and he says 6000 years dont start laughing - ask why he lists that particular number, and you catch

2017-10-22 18:14:26 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

You catch his weakness from his own world view.

2017-10-22 18:25:08 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

Why the hell does someone's Philosophy or Culture needs a Foundation besides itself?! That part of the argument was mega-cringe for me

2017-10-22 18:25:28 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

People need to accept the possibility of emergent conditions.

2017-10-22 18:26:40 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

The golden principle can be shown to be a result of evolutionary societal development

2017-10-22 18:26:57 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

It has no foundation beyond being a superior survival strategy for communities.

2017-10-22 18:32:59 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

this is his potential side of the argument:

2017-10-22 18:33:59 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

This is closer:

2017-10-22 18:35:53 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

Try being a Cultural supremacist, being a racist is easy in comparison.

2017-10-22 18:52:26 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

Vsauce video gets really good 5:30

2017-10-22 18:54:04 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

That video is blurred around the left and right edge, showing a deformity of the lense

2017-10-22 19:33:53 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

fucking women meme derailed my point entirely

2017-10-22 19:36:32 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

weeeee.... I love the property owner driven emergent democracy theory.

2017-10-22 19:36:44 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

It also support arguments against non-property owners voting.

2017-10-22 19:47:41 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

They are tossing the baby with the bathwater -

2017-10-22 19:48:27 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

I don't mind his racist points of view - I can read 4chan and not get triggered when some racist posts on /pol/

2017-10-22 19:48:58 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

Really don't like when people silence each other - even if I find literal nazi roleplayers disgusting, I will not want to silence one out of principle.

2017-10-22 19:50:37 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

I want to hear Thomas Sowells argument on Culture vs Race disproven by Aryan or someone of similar points of view.

2017-10-22 19:51:31 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

oh, it directly disproves Sowell's arguments? nice, thanks

2017-10-22 19:52:10 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

I like reading stuff man, as long as it's quoting research properly.

2017-10-22 19:55:32 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

He is literally winning Aryan argument for him by going into this nonsense.

2017-10-22 19:56:09 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

When Aryan says "race 100% determinues culture" or something similarly deterministic - you can argue against that without arguing "race is NOT".

2017-10-22 20:01:22 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

If you read that FAQ in the link I was given it does NOT claim race is 100% influential on cultural outcome

2017-10-22 20:04:18 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

jabaited

2017-10-22 20:05:58 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

Pro will not know how to attack this argument, lol

2017-10-22 20:06:23 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

It's the correlation causation issue - he claims the iq is result of race and not of cultural condition

2017-10-22 20:06:42 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

he needs to use the adoption study, which puts blacks at a smaller disadvantage than global bell curve

2017-10-22 20:06:49 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

which means culture still has a superior influence

2017-10-22 20:10:33 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

ADOPTION STUDY SHOWS OTHERWISE.

2017-10-22 20:10:45 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

only 10iq point difference vs. 20-30-40 in African countries

2017-10-22 20:11:43 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

Adoption studies, adoption studies, adoption studies, adoption studies....

2017-10-22 20:12:14 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

I am triggered the debate does not mention adoption studies.

2017-10-22 20:12:38 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

How do you argue in favor of environment over race without mentioning adoption studies. Weak.

2017-10-22 20:12:56 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

no, it shows there is still a 10 point difference in races

2017-10-22 20:13:07 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

but the difference is much smaller than vs. african in african country

2017-10-22 20:13:22 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

so it shows culture has an equal or greater impact on iq

2017-10-22 20:13:46 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

White famlies adopting black children = 90 iq vs 100 iq whites adopted average

2017-10-22 20:14:06 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

Black children from the same country in africa 70 iq

2017-10-22 20:14:40 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

Zuihou - my claim is that it's both (!)

2017-10-22 20:15:03 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

Race/DNA influences IQ outcome, but also Culture, to a very great extent.

2017-10-22 20:15:15 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

Adoption studies prove that quite conclusively.

2017-10-22 20:16:06 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

I read that, does it include adoption studies and their resulting numbers?

2017-10-22 20:17:08 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

I know them in general but I can find the relevant links

2017-10-22 20:17:36 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

Yes, and they have two different interpretations used by the different sides.

2017-10-22 20:18:15 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

Compare these numbers to average IQ in source countries of adopted children.

2017-10-22 20:41:03 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

I am dead, this debate has gone to shit right next to a very nice climax

2017-10-22 20:41:33 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

wow

2017-10-22 20:41:48 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

he literally just torpedoed what I worked for 15-30 minutes to create

2017-10-22 20:41:49 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

fuck me

2017-10-22 20:42:03 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

this is why people who don't read a subject should not be allowed to debate.

2017-10-22 20:43:00 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

how many brackets do you need for "bing it"

2017-10-22 20:47:27 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

@Stalker I wanted Aryan and Wing to keep arguing that a society divided into upper-middle-and-underclass can be sustainable over long time periods.

2017-10-22 20:47:59 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

Because I am pretty sure I can dig historical evidence of such societies existing before being invaded by destructive ideologies like marxism

2017-10-22 20:48:43 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

USA 1900's to 1960's for example - before Welfare laws the African American community was doing incredibly well culturally from where it started

2017-10-22 20:49:07 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

The decline started with a cultural shift - Welfare and the rise of Marxist victim culture in the 60's

2017-10-22 20:49:44 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

Yeah but you can't point at those arguments when someone is REEEEEEEING Pro

2017-10-22 20:51:46 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

@Stalker Perhaps it was white people, or perhaps it was European or simply Superior culture.

2017-10-22 20:52:59 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

@Stalker the main issue is what we do with this knowledge - do we promote segregation like BLM does, or should we promote our superior CULTURE and advocate and force to the best of our ability their integration into it?

2017-10-22 20:53:17 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

Will look him up.

2017-10-22 20:53:46 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

Thomas Sowell and the 1940's through 1960's show otherwise.

2017-10-22 20:54:00 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

Working class African Americans were at a much more stable and better place back then.

2017-10-22 20:54:48 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

@Stalker forced is a pretty strong word, promoted culturally is a better one

2017-10-22 20:55:08 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

All of them man, Intellectuals and Race, Rednecks, etc

2017-10-22 20:55:35 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

"black rednecks & white liberals"

2017-10-22 20:56:08 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

Mostly is another strong statement - correlation does not imply a causation on the level of "mostly"

2017-10-22 20:57:35 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

Right now we have examples of Superior Culture adoption resulting in IQ going from "medically retarded" to "functional working class member of society".

2017-10-22 20:57:56 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

So why not take that and promote Culture instead of advocating race.

2017-10-22 20:58:54 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

You don't have to kill, you can integrate - they can keep their folk dancing and music in privacy of home or special event

2017-10-22 20:59:21 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

But in an Office or Education or Institutional setting - you have to push European/World dominant English culture

2017-10-22 20:59:41 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

Marxists use Race to fight against that

2017-10-22 20:59:55 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

Racists from the Right use Race to fight against that too (!!!)

2017-10-22 20:59:58 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

I feel surrounded.

2017-10-22 21:01:00 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

Aryan and Wing claimed very loudly that Coexistance, that "Ataturk" like society cannot exist, that race war is inevitable

2017-10-22 21:02:51 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

I disagree, I think Aryan and Wing and you are losing the opportunity to promote the Culture, and thus playing into the hands of groups like BLM, and advocating for losing strategies

2017-10-22 21:04:17 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

@Stalker I think that is a weaker position than mine - I want the Culture to win and see both your kind of emphasis on Race, and groups like BLM as the Barbarians at the gates.

2017-10-23 23:20:50 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

Culture > Race, Alt Right and BLM are just two sets of barbarians attacking Western Culture from different sides.

2017-10-23 23:22:40 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

...by killing it

2017-10-23 23:23:41 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

Western culture is rule of law and making any outsider adapt or leave. Alt Right literally calls for Balkanization.

2017-10-23 23:26:00 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

Jews are one monolith entety oppressing the racially inferior "whites" /s

2017-10-23 23:26:44 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

You lied to me Composers, the level of conversation here is junk.

2017-10-23 23:27:59 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

I'm right wing, close border libertarian

2017-10-23 23:28:55 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

Worked out great in the past.

2017-10-23 23:29:36 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

Made Jews martirs and literally lost the continent a few decades later.

2017-10-23 23:30:16 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

Germans would have won the war if Hitler was not in charge.

2017-10-23 23:30:27 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

His deification is amusing.

2017-10-23 23:32:33 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

You need to read some German officer memoirs or Victor Suvorov's works to understand the level of failure.

2017-10-23 23:33:59 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

Did almost everything wrong, including getting suckered into the Molotov-Ribentrop pact.

2017-10-23 23:37:29 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

Hitler could have waited 2-3 years and become the savior of Europe against Soviet Aggression, instead fixated on Jews and WWI revenge.

2017-10-23 23:38:19 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

The jews in Poland?

2017-10-23 23:39:02 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

Why did Germany invade Poland and remove the buffer from USSR?

2017-10-23 23:40:04 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

Didn't matter, according to NatSoc ideology their suffering was for greater good if Poland remained a buffer state against an aggressor.

2017-10-23 23:41:04 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

Geopolitically, yes, and greater good is clearly the superior motive claimed by your side in this debate.

2017-10-23 23:41:13 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

Don't tell me about human suffering, ridiculous.

2017-10-23 23:42:02 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

Soviet Invasion killed 10+ mil Germans, Berlin was rape capital of Europe. Greater good was to keep buffers and refrain from vengeful actions.

2017-10-23 23:42:57 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

Yes, I am elaborating from your side of this debate, using your own logic against you to prove that Hitler was a geopolitical failure, despite being a strong orator.

2017-10-23 23:43:49 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

You mean to say that suffering of Germans in Poland, assumed entirely true, was more important than consequences of invading Poland and giving USSR a direct border with Western Europe?!

2017-10-23 23:44:57 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

You said he got rid of jews - yet Jews now control Germany more than ever according to your very own claims

2017-10-23 23:45:05 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

So maybe his strategy was poor in the long term

2017-10-23 23:45:36 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

He lost power because he made huge geopolitical mistakes.

2017-10-23 23:45:53 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

Because you are losing that argument.

2017-10-23 23:46:03 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

You are triggered.

2017-10-23 23:46:42 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

I was mislead to believe this is a right-wing Discord where intellectual discussions can happen.

2017-10-23 23:47:56 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

You called me a nigger when you started losing a stupid argument because of your own historical ineptitude

2017-10-23 23:48:07 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

You are the nigger here, asking for gibs instead of winning by might.

2017-10-23 23:48:32 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

You want to win an argument by gibs instead of merit.

2017-10-23 23:48:35 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

Who is the nigger?

2017-10-23 23:49:19 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

Nonsense, someone mentioned Hitler, I called him incompetent and self-defeating. You got upset and couldn't beat my arguments.

2017-10-23 23:50:07 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

The fact is that you resorted to insults first, thus losing the debate by default - asking for gibs instead of merit.

2017-10-23 23:50:48 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

There is literally a chat log with your ass exploding in anger during a debate.

2017-10-23 23:51:10 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

With time stamps. Right there above this post.

2017-10-23 23:51:46 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

Nothing is wrong with anger as long as it's controlled.

2017-10-23 23:52:30 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

If in your anger you crush the opponents skull and kill them in one blow, that is constructive. If in your anger you simply foam at the mouth and miss your shots, resorting to insults in a debate - your anger is controlling you.

2017-10-23 23:58:28 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

Is this a Jewish name? Gottlob Herbert Bidermann

2017-10-24 00:00:50 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

That is correct - Jews invented the internet, the Windows operating system was coded to a great extent in Israel, and Discord is probably Jew run, and if you run a poll in this chat you will probably see 20% Jews.

2017-10-24 00:04:43 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

You should become a mod Zeph, the power will allow you to trip and compensate for immaturity and lack of ability.

2017-10-24 00:35:11 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

HAHAHAHA

2017-10-24 00:54:50 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

solutions: sort yourself out

2017-10-24 01:31:18 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

CNN MSNBC NYT picture does not include non-jewish faces, so it's hard to evaluate the % representation

2017-10-24 01:31:39 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

I would not be surprised if they are highly over-represented, due to DNA and cultural advantages.

2017-10-24 01:52:00 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

The HE is not Trump but the BenBristle fellow

2017-10-24 02:07:04 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

Shamefur Dispray

2017-10-24 02:07:42 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

You might not believe me but I wanted the damned arab to win, deep inside. Because Murica.

2017-10-24 20:23:28 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

Tanks? Did someone say Tanks?

2017-10-24 20:24:11 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

90 lbs 300 ft

2017-10-24 20:36:06 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

Didn't see much effort in refuting Hitchens at the time.

2017-10-24 20:48:42 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

Neogaf dead, SomethingAwful next?

2017-10-24 20:54:21 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

The war was for war - each dollar spent is a dollar earned

2017-10-24 20:54:34 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

All other reasons are always secondary.

2017-10-24 20:55:25 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

Our military industry needs to earn money and give it to our politicians - so with USSR threat gone, and big project funding in decline, the spending shifts to ongoing regional wars.

2017-10-24 20:57:00 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

I think the level of incompetence they showed in Iraq 2.0 proves my point - the other goals were a bonus, an excuse, to make lots of money on Invasion + Rebuilding

2017-10-24 20:57:29 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

No way. NK is just too expensive to contain at this point.

2017-10-24 20:57:55 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

Its resources are insignificant compared to other viable locations.

2017-10-24 20:58:11 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

Link me.

2017-10-24 20:59:16 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

I see, got it. I will have to revise my view.

2017-10-24 21:25:12 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

Think of the phones!

2017-10-24 21:25:47 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

Your balls dropped?

2017-10-24 22:07:35 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

This one is pretty funny and doesn't really need the CC's.

2017-10-24 22:10:12 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

It's real, but it doesn't btfo iq completely, just enough to make cultural argument prevail.

2017-10-24 22:17:16 UTC [The Right Server #voice_chat]  

lots of catching up to do

2018-10-24 05:54:41 UTC [Subverse #new-member-alert]  

2018-10-24 05:55:21 UTC [Subverse #bot-commands]  

!agree

2018-12-22 22:00:42 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

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