In what sense are they diferent aside from the language and culture?

Mashriqi perhaps? Idk man, i know a good handfull of levantines that have that kind of "arabic" look on their features but are very white.

Btw Oghuz had that kinda oriental look, not stricktly mongoloid.

Suleiman is an arabization of Solomon tho.

I love arabic names too, specially Ibrahim, Suhail, Ismail Zulfiqar.

Tfw no qt orthodox lebanese gf.

Btw, who is the icon in your profile pic @󠀂 󠀂 ?

Christ have him in his glory indeed, may not have been the greatest leader but a great christian man, that he definetly was.

I don't mind mediterranean olive skin tho, considering i'm spanish-french but my lebanese blood gives me that olive tone. So i don't really hold any racism against arab or levantines or turks.

Btw, one more, i can't read arabic so, who is this? i think i may have an idea but want to confirm, seems like either St Isaac the Syrian or St John of Damascus.

Must be St John of Damascus probably, thx.

Damn.

And i intentd to learn arabic in the near future, that's definetly going to be kind of hard.

How to live in Lebanon without speaking arabic.

Damn this isn't google.

Ikr.

Al Qudus, yes.

Or, Al Qudsy.

I know some words because i pray in arabic.

I do the sign of the cross in arabic and the Jesus Christ prayer too.

It's complicated, mostly i'm spanish, but i have french and lebanese in the mix too.

My lebanese features are very present in my lips and nose, maybe my skin tone.

As i'm white but white med.

So, idk, i guess i'm el atrocidad del levante.

El levantino de la peninsula.

It's hard being an orthodox Franco-Lebanese Spaniard in communist heathen sincretic Mexico

Where the lie.

Based mom.

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Conversion time.

Begome orthodogz

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My mom pays attention but in the end she still stays roman catholic.

And worse of all, Modernist Roman Catholic.

Orthodox like Eastern orthodox or oriental? your group tag says "other"

Otter *

It's disguised miaphisism i know.

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I got told that as i was baptized catholic my baptism was considered as valid so i'm really orthodox as long as i renounce the catholic heretical dogmas.

Wich i have no problem doing but i don't have orthodox parrishes near, so i have to see a priest that comes here every now and then.

That i know too.

Specially chrismation.

Weh, guess i'm honorary or titular then, the guy who helped me to get introduced told me i can consider myself already orthodox, but that i indeed have to undergo the cathechism and chrismation.

And i agree with what Fr Josimah said, it's risible that Caths decide to do chrismation with such a risk of leaving christians unchrismed.

If we go full formal it's Eastern Orthodox Catholic Church. ❤

Since yesterday today i accomplished my first fastings and abstinense of animal foods as orthodox tradition requires to do so on Thursdays and Fridays, no doubt i feel enriched and acomplished to know i'm able to do this, please pray so that Christ bestow's his grace to my efforts so that i may be conducted towards the right path of discpline and spiritual growth.

Perhaps a way to somehow adapt that to our modern conception, i see it hard and very unlikely we will go from a post industrial society to an agricultural one, people would simply not give it up as it would sound just against common sense no matter how good one can argue.

It's an interesting position i grant it.

But somehow i think it can be rejected just as anarco primitivism can.

Our new conceptions of rationality and discoveries until now just make it common sense not to go fully back to something that implies to reject progress.

So i'd say you would need to find a way to make your posture, compadible with progress.

And somehow keep it trad.

And by trad, i don't mean ideologically but rather, the idea that you are trying to convey.

You can stard by there yes.

You can also attack excesive consumerism.

We need a new society that takes base on how our ancestors knew how to moderate themselves on what goods where produced and such.

I certainly would friend.

Btw sort of a theological doubt that has arisen as i read you.

I do in my just anger repel the modern women and their habits that are certainly the way of the lost.

But i think that as much as i can criticize people, it makes no good if i don't pray for them as well.

So, for example during lent or during the sacerd days, in our fasts and in the midst of our prayers, can we ask for the intercesion of a particular saint, i.e. in this case, St Mary of Egypt for the souls and conversions of them? like, i know we orthodox do not share the idea of offering sufferings to atone for others, but we are asking God to lead them, so, considering those are sacred days, dedicating part of our prayers for this intention i feel it would be on spot, i believe lust is one of the most prominent passions and sins in our days, and we really need to work on that.

Would it be advisable if i arrange a set of prayers during the sacred days for this intention with the particular intercession of this saint?

We have intended to become shepherds ourselves i'd say but your is good too.

Or maybe even both.

So far i'm liking what i'm reading.

Sure, i really encourage you to keep working on this, i can see that indeed these are words the world needs and not only more "traditional babbling" indeed, as an attack on excesive consimism for example, not only we desecrate the legacy of nature that God confided in us, but imagine the day where secularism as a dominance starts to turn our churches into more centers of production.

Surely, great work right there, don't feel afraid to share as you make progress.

Both are key, again through consumerism and how modernity has been perverted with the desperate notion of progress, for the sake of progress and scientificism, we have corrupted the very same concept and made a lot of damage.

Then you can lead it on why it's necesary to abandon it.

To work on how would be a more extense work i'd say.

These topics seem like a book deserving work if you ask me.

But you can treat it as a blog too, in such case you can try to make a little resume.

But still it's key you connect the dots.

Or maybe i just feel like that because i'm a historian, and my mindset is kind of like that.

Things that i like and are deep are something i plan to put in a book some day.

Refutations on islam, apologetics to the church, etc.

And social issues i'm treating them in the form of a novel, that has quite some strong stuff but it's intended to show the true perversion we have suffered and that we suffer because as you mention it very well, we are born slaves of this condition.

Degeneracy has always existed but there was a time where most people upheld the idea of repulsing it.

Nowdays degeneracy is the rule and most people hold the idea of spreading it, and repulsing all that is good.

Oh boi, Chuuni and Vera are the same person?

Oh, i thought so for a minute.

Lmao.

Btw how do i make it convincing that God may give a person a second chance to go back in time and change something in order to give a lesson.

Like, in a novel.

I know no one here is a novelist nor a theologian but i'd like some ideas as to not include a severe straight up heresy in my story.

Hmm, i could do that.

Make my character get in to a coma here and there. (?

I also intend to be very cautious as i was planning to make Christ appear (not necesarily phisically but by voice, through icons and such) but that's even harder as i also do not want to tergiverse our lord's attitude.
Even if i manage that, would it be disrespectful to make Christ a participant in this?

Oh nice, i will look to those then.

It's not meant to be permanent.

It's meant to be a lesson on God's mercy.

It would put in question God's goodness if he allowed certain people to undo sins and others not if not for the conventional means.

Wich is spiritual growth and repentance.

And in reality sin is not unmade, what has happened has done so, as Elder Thaddeus said.

That, and second, that the fact that God allows our fall in certain cases to teach us is a greater mercy for all mankind, and also the fact that people who do not repent stay condemned is also mercy as it would be no fair either, as each one of our choices matters, a God who would avoid us to make these choices or that does not let the consecuence of those choices to unleash, it's unmerciful, as it would mean he does not care.

It's also meant to eliminate the conception of God as some mystical mage in heaven who sould protect us because people misunderstand what his love is.

So it's a novel but it has a lesson in the end.

Several, and i'm trying to be careful on how to say them.

Most of these i have learn them from learning theology, so they aren't really my idea, i just want to convey those in a story, where they can have a name and a last name, like a parable if you want.

Also, the fact of people misunderstaing God's mercy leads to the mispractice in our society.

We're not even there yet and i'm already ashamed of my sins before God tbh.

Don't you mean the tollhouses?

Because if i'm not mistaking they aren't really a dogma.
and i have seen this vid on that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-NSryBWsx4

Yes, you can and you can always do alms, and hope others pray for you. God is merciful.

I think i'd have to see that for my self to know if they actually mean the concept of tollhouses.

I'd find them conflicting as what the guy in the video says is very convincing.