Hey if I join the vc Darth will accuse me of stalking. Should I just stay out if I don't want to be banned?

What he's saying makes no sense. the LNC isn't a posteriori it's a priori

think about awhat it would mean to say there's a place where A = ~A

makes no sense

You don't want to justify that

otherwise it's circular reasoning

you assume it

no that's not begging the question

he was describing induction

given these observations and the uniformity of nature you can appeal to inductive reasoning

Look maybe asking him how he can make sense of the bible without assuming the law of non-contradiction

would make the convo move forward

I think when he says stalker, he means someone who can refute his position

it's not because he's a bible thumper

it's because he's irrational

other Christians challenge him

do you think I was doing that?

I think what happens is people get too interested in the drama and don't stick around to hear the questions being unpacked

I asked him a question but was told not to contribute afterwards

given the people he parrots I know the arguments

but he will always be on the defense

*offense

d'oh

But this is what happens, you see? We're not talking about the arguments. Instead it's the drama.

Zeph you're the one talking about the drama and meta stuff

do you want to hear the ways to undermine his position or what?

You'd prefer hearing the counters, then?

(that's not a bad thing)

I would rather say it vs write it out

@Zephial if you ping me I'll tell you stuff about his arguments and the flaws in his reasoning

no

but I can just point to things that are wrong with his reasoning

that would be fun

he's right there

haha David Whom

@Aryan Republic you do what he does to understand the bible: you assume the laws of logic etc to make sense of things

he's saying a lot of wrong stuff

well they both are, haha

but DD is undermining his own position

because it applies to his worldview too

he needs to presuppose the laws of logic to make sense of the bible

Zeph what was he arguing I just came in

ahhhh

he's not into falsification

@Marty it's all about disconfirmation

yes

it

is

you think the multiverse hypothesis is falsifiable?

what would I?

I think disconfirmability should be used

for causal explanations

explanations for observations such that if they were true, then they would render those observations intelligible

you are, apparently...

are you thinking of Popperianism, rather?

@Marty 3 You think that undermines disconfirmability too?

oops

@Marty I think you're confused about what I'm appealing to. Are you taking disconfirmability with falsifiability?

I just asked

come into dc because I don't want to type

ok

the Kalam isn't inductive

How can you find out whether someone never lies or not?

how does this all relate to TAG?

Are you guys just going to accept that assertion?

I didn't do anything

You guys just take DD's word as truth?

I asked you a question

I didn't even talk to him

Alright later then.

@_dead what's the topic?

ha

Do you think he appeals to skeptical theism against the EPOE?

@_dead he server muted me right away. I wonder if he could actually defend his view

yep still server muted

I don't wanna get yelled at by DD but it sucks that he makes it so we can't even debate other theists because he poisons the well @_dead

?

Are there cute girls involved?

Proof and I'm there

Haha I wouldn't actually have a problem posting feet pix

lemme see