there is no candidate that goes on the Republican side that _doesn't mention_ 2A on their program

it's pretty much a requirement

@Danacrag
>surely terrorists are in prison so who would get their guns taken away?
the issue is when they leave prison, ofc

also, there are people that are known for potential terrorism or terrorism outside the country that would be allowed to have guns otherwise

@Danacrag coz that's tyranny

there are a lot of shit that can be considered "terrorism" but that would have low jail time

@Danacrag
>Perhaps the definition should be tighter then
the issue is that everytime the definition gets tighter, it is used to jail the political opposition

which is rather convinient

remember that anarchy is considered terrorism 😏

>the most hardcore commie in the world
commies forced public school on everyone

after all, the state owned them, so they had to give them education to force them to work

@LustrousMandrill Please tell me how Communism _isn't_ fascist 😂

I'm curious what definition you use wrongly, the communism or the fascism one

coz there's no version of communism that isn't fascist

from the USSR to current China

I'm surprised, your wrong definition is of communism and not of facism. I kinda expected you to go the nazi route and say that "it isn't true fascism" if there wasn't any flavor of racial superiority to it

"a classless and stateless society seems very different from a highly authoritarian and nationalistic state"
Genius, I would like to know what made you reach such conclusion

you can only keep a society classless by force, and you can't do it without a state

anarcho-communism has to assume that everyone agrees with you

you can't have communism without a big state, also authoritarian, otherwise it wouldn't be communism for a long time

there also is close to no private ownership, and seizing of property is a thing if the state so decides

the only version of communism that isn't fascist is an anarcho-communism where everyone agrees to play with it. It's even more of an utopia than the typical communism

I wouldn't define it just by that

but imo there can't be any communism without an authoritarian state

it would also have to be nationalistic, otherwise it wouldn't be communist for long

@LustrousMandrill I'm ok with that version of communism. It only works at small scale and small communities anyway

the only think contradictory is that you are calling Anarcho-communism, just communism

yep

exactly

I told you from the start. Communism was never stateless

and I explained exactly why it can never be

to have true redistribution, you are required to do it by force, otherwise you would never have redistribution

what do you mean by MLs?

communism already is an utopia by itself. But to believe that it could be achieved without a state goes to quite funny extreme of utopia

ofc that you can believe that it would be ideal if everyone agrees on it. But it is required for everyone to believe the same thing as you

imagine if I said capitalism would work 100% if everyone agreed with my version of "true capitalism"

a system has to work even when it has enemies

even if true anarchy would exist. The ancaps would ruin you =p

hahahha

conversion therapy

@LustrousMandrill for curiosity, If you were in a full communist state. You would fight against said state to achieve anarchy?

ya, the problem here is that for you communism is anarcho-communism. That's our only disagreement from the start

or you read to many fantasy books

like I said above, there isn't any flavor of communism that existed that didn't rely on a big authoritarian state

ofc you would, it's what happens when your definition of a word is totally different than the one everyone uses

communism is impossible by itself, but funny enough, you picked an even more impossible one on top of it 😂

like I asked above, how would you have redistribution of wealth?

the reverse, someone with wealth would be the only one capable of defending himself

wealth is power, without any limits as there is no state

it only takes a group with guns and wealth for your system to fall and not be classless anymore

it's not "so much". A couple of guns is enough

look at Africa in general. Corruption and forcing people into labor is the basic

without a state there is no protection. At least the ancaps assume that they have to defend themselves

they would simple create a fascist state. The only issue is that multiple groups would try the same thing at the same time

you are assuming everyone would magically become equal and that no since individual would be capable of overpowering a group

a couple of guns and disarming the population is a small village would be enough to produce huge amounts of wealth in a few years

I mean, ancaps are delusional, but at least they know that anarchy would turn everywhere into the wildwest

anyway, I got a date in a bit. We can continue this later

simple, controlling the gun production is one way. But in general you are very naive on people not using guns to abuse the system

it's not like everyone would be equally equipped either

or equally good with using guns

guns and access to the basic resources of a village, and you would have control of a large amount of people in no time

they did it in the past when guns didn't even exist, it would be way easier to do nowadays

sometimes I wonder if you guys are all on drugs

If you can't deal with me sober, you wouldn't be able to deal with me when high <:Smug:643129431434461194>

🚁

being white will be like being a jew, soon to be a potected class above all others 😏

my mouth was open the entire time

and when I thought it was over

it got _worse_

she was dumb about it

those 16% are still a big number

assuming even that a small % would buy it

I think it says more about you than them

if you think sexually of kids just because they are naked

😏

@The Roman Emperor you being attracted to kids don't make _me_ gay

>subversion
your "argument" was to call me a faggot

are you low IQ too?

aside from being a pedo

@The Roman Emperor what makes you think it's not legal where I live?

gotta find it funny that people arguing for the right to be nude at a beach, and random pedos like you going

BUT THINK OF THE CHILDREN

and getting hard about it

same exact argument the left uses against guns. I guess you think they should get banned too

@The Roman Emperor you know a lot for a pedo faggot, tell me more

@A. Spader that's exactly what he did

it is a fair discussion though. He thinks having a right to be nude in a beach implies pedophilia

@A. Spader you should at least read where the discussion started if you are gonna quote anything

@The Roman Emperor you were the one arguing that only pedophiles would want such liberty. Which pretty much implies that your first and only thought about the law, was the children 😏

also, so much for productive discussion, your first "argument" was to call me a faggot

why don't you explain your reasoning why they should be put in jail? Entertain me

@The Roman Emperor Ok faggot 😏

I don't think getting it checked often like you do is that healthy

but you do you

isn't that illegal btw?

I'm pretty sure any "proof of vote" or "proof of intention to vote" or "proof of being registered" is illegal.
Otherwise businesses could use it to discriminate against you

or pay you for such proofs

ofc

but people could demand that you register as a dem