Hastur

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2019-11-21 01:37:56 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

I knew Met never had principles, but he also has no loyalty.

2019-11-21 01:38:06 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

Sarg never said a bad word about Met before or since.

2019-11-21 01:46:15 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

Yeah, I remember when he shut down Internet Aristocrat. He said he was doing it because the movement he helped create had spiraled out of control, and was turning into what he hated, so he was quiting.

2019-11-21 01:46:28 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

Metokur was up and running what, less than a year later?

2019-11-21 01:47:37 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

The silliest part is he didn't even attempt to reinvent his style. he even continued series that he started on his IA channel. I used to love the Hugbox Chronicles.

2019-11-21 01:48:16 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

So, if everyone knows it's still Jim, what's the point?

2019-11-21 01:51:36 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

God damn it.

2019-11-21 02:29:30 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

I read Jim's Dramatica article, i think he may have wrote it himself.

2019-11-21 02:31:02 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

Every other article on Encyclopedia Dramatica is just the most savage of take downs. Razorfist's article is particularly brutal.

2019-11-21 02:31:14 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

Not Jim's.

2019-11-21 02:32:08 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

Jim's reads like a fanboy of his wrote a historical treatises about the great Meme Warrior Metokur and his never ending quest for the lulz...

2019-11-21 20:01:49 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

I'd rather not have any debt.

2019-11-21 20:01:52 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

Oh wait.

2019-11-21 20:02:28 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

*remembers he didn't go to college, never bothered with credit cards, and never financed anything*

2019-11-21 20:03:20 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

Boys, to be a 32 year old white cis-male with no debt, no kids, and a girl that can't get pregnant is fucking heaven on earth.

2019-11-21 20:56:30 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

I won't lie, I have VERY bad genes.

2019-11-21 20:56:59 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

You should be patting me on the back for knowing my limits and not muddying the gene pool any more than my Family already has.

2019-11-21 21:01:02 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

I am the culmination of two separate Scot-Irish bloodlines that are both replete with mental instability, diabetes, addiction issues, and overall, a low standard of intelligence.

2019-11-21 21:01:59 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

I'm helping us get closer to the Ubermensch by refusing to allow my inferior genes to further delineate into our race.

2019-11-21 21:12:25 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

I am mostly joking, however I'm just not cut out for fatherhood. I'd be exceptionally bad at it. I'm too self-centered.

2019-11-21 21:12:35 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

A lot of you guys are believers, I take it?

2019-11-21 21:12:48 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

I'd be so bold as to guess most even.

2019-11-21 21:14:02 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

Regardless, you know how religious people just KNOW God is real? They just know it, in their heart, no body can tell them otherwise?

2019-11-21 21:14:31 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

That's how I feel about fatherhood. I just KNOW I can't do it.

2019-11-21 21:15:57 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

@Beemann How so? Not baiting, genuinely curious as to your line of thought.

2019-11-21 21:16:48 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

That's fair.

2019-11-21 21:17:12 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

I do know though that most of my friends who have kids today, were talking about it in highschool.

2019-11-21 21:17:23 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

They KNEW it was in the cards for them.

2019-11-21 21:20:21 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

That's fair.

2019-11-21 21:23:36 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

I consider myself an Objectivist, so I try to be as Objective as I can be at all times. That's where I'm at with it. I saw what My father became, I saw what my firend'ss fathers became. I don't want to become that. Or worse, to have one, realize I was right all along, and bail, just like my father did.

2019-11-21 21:23:56 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

I followed the logic of where I came from.

2019-11-21 21:25:12 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

The key word in that sentence was "Try"

2019-11-21 21:25:22 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

No one can be 100% conistent 100% of the time.

2019-11-21 21:26:30 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

Dude, objectivism is set in stone...

2019-11-21 21:28:15 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

One of Rand's key points was "A is A", reality exists, regardless of our ability to perceive it. Objectivism is a moral absolutist philosophy.

2019-11-21 21:29:24 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

Well, I'm a millenial, soooooooo

2019-11-21 21:30:16 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

I'm two generation removed from the Boomers.

2019-11-21 21:30:16 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

lol

2019-11-21 21:30:59 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

I know.

2019-11-21 21:31:06 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

I'm playing along.

2019-11-21 21:31:57 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

Yeah, she was also anti-gay. Not just gay rights, she thought gays should exist at all, cuz they're existence was contrary to nature.

2019-11-21 21:32:23 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

This is the same women who talks about pure, unfettered freedom, except for the pople she doesn't like.

2019-11-21 21:32:46 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

"Nobody can be 100% consistent 100% of the time."

2019-11-21 21:34:41 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

It's funny, I respect her as a philosopher who quantified the moral code that I live my life by, but she was a terrible writer.

2019-11-21 21:35:07 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

John Galt is probably one of the poorest written literary characters in history.

2019-11-21 21:36:53 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

She put far more effort in Dagny and Reardon, but they were her main protagonists, and Galt wasn't really supposed to be a character. According to her, Galt was to be a living embodiment of her ideals, that's why he's presented as an nigh-omnipotent Gary Stu that Dagny falls in love with the moment she see him for the first time.

2019-11-21 21:38:04 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

Never read it, but heard it's better.

2019-11-21 21:40:43 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

D'Anconia was my favorite character, and even his Money speech at Readon's party made my eyes roll before it was over.

2019-11-21 21:41:19 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

Galt's speech near the end of the book, it's almost unreadable. lol

2019-11-21 21:46:13 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

^^^^^
this guy gets it

2019-11-21 21:46:14 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

lol

2019-11-21 21:46:43 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

I only ever read Shrugged, and I had a HARD time getting through it. lol

2019-11-21 21:47:00 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

That's why I never tried reading any of her others.

2019-11-21 21:49:52 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

Instead, I bought Leonard Peikoff's book on Objectivism. He was her favorite student, and she considered him to be her intellectual heir. It's a pure breakdown of the tenants of the philosophy, so we don't have to suffer through her prose in order to get the message.

2019-11-21 21:55:34 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

Okay...?

2019-11-21 21:58:11 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

Okay. I'm not really listening to him, pre say. I'm listening to Rand through his one book.

2019-11-21 21:58:30 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

Even so, who gives a shit about divorce? Relationship end.

2019-11-21 21:58:42 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

Nothing lasts forever.

2019-11-21 22:00:11 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

It should, but they don't.

2019-11-21 22:01:28 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

I'm not going to call an entire philosophy into question cause the people behind it weren't perfect.

2019-11-21 22:03:11 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

You married?

2019-11-21 22:07:31 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

That they do not.

2019-11-21 22:08:16 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

She's VERY longwinded.

2019-11-21 22:08:35 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

Her characters drone on and on for pages at a time, beating you over the head with her ideas.

2019-11-21 22:09:38 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

I've read a little Nietzsche, but not like an entire book.

2019-11-21 22:38:31 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

I'm actually with you on her being a shit author.

2019-11-21 22:38:48 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

Even though I'm an Objectivist.

2019-11-21 22:39:00 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

She couldn't write her way out of a wet paper bag.

2019-11-21 22:39:26 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

She wouldn't know believable dialogue if it pitched a tent in her ass.

2019-11-21 22:41:08 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

Eh, that's a bit harsh.

2019-11-21 22:43:43 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

One instance in the book, Galt says to Midas Miller, I believe, when he's describing Galt's Gulch... "Other than a few courthouses, there isn't much government at all." I'd say, with that example in mind, she was a 0 taxation person. To be fair, I am speculating, cause I can't explicitly recall here ever going that deep into how her Objectivist utopia would function.

2019-11-21 22:44:44 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

I am not.

2019-11-21 22:46:19 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

Objectivism is the philosophy that I use as my guiding set of principles in day to day life, but I'm not naive enough to believe that Objectivism would actually work as the basis of a system of Government.

2019-11-21 22:46:38 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

I do see a purpose for a federal government, I just wish it was WAAAAAAAAAY smaller than it is.

2019-11-21 22:48:15 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

I'm a Libertarian, but I like borders, and I don't think we should just let any fucking body into our private club.

2019-11-21 22:50:07 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

#BuildTheWall

2019-11-21 22:50:10 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

lol

2019-11-21 22:54:13 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

Truth is, Rand would hate me.

2019-11-21 22:55:11 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

It's funny. Ron Paul once said the same things when asked his opinion on Rand's work. He said that he read her books, and he liked them, but that she didn't like Libertarians, then he just laughed it off.

2019-11-21 22:55:36 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

It can be.

2019-11-21 22:55:56 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

I think Rucka can be a bit much with it.

2019-11-21 22:56:00 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

How so?

2019-11-21 22:56:47 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

I never said anything about my IQ.

2019-11-21 22:57:54 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

I don't think that though. I do my best to be objective, though I know that's not always possible. I'm human, I have biases like everyone else.

2019-11-21 23:04:07 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

I'm confused. What exactly have I done to offend you?

2019-11-21 23:12:51 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

You've really got step up your troll game.

2019-11-21 23:13:25 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

nani?

2019-11-21 23:13:59 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

So, tell me, what does it feel like to be a fucking moron?

2019-11-21 23:14:13 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

I imagine you've been doing it a while.

2019-11-21 23:16:34 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

Call me Ka-Zar, mother fucker.

2019-11-21 23:16:37 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

lol

2019-11-21 23:18:00 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

That she paid for her entire career through taxation.

2019-11-21 23:18:44 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

I don't like this system either, but god damn if SS is still around when I'm old, I'm gonna take it. I paid into it my entire life.

2019-11-21 23:20:11 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

Hypocrite? What are you even talking about. All I've done is talk shit about how terrible of an author I think she was, and I even pointed out some of her hypocrisies myself. How am I Whiteknighting?

2019-11-21 23:22:18 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

The King in YellowToday at 5:57 PM
I don't think that though. I do my best to be objective, though I know that's not always possible. I'm human, I have biases like everyone else.

2019-11-21 23:28:50 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

By my own admission, I read Atlas Shrugged, and I wasn't crazy about it. I own Peikoff's book on Objectivism. I never read any of her other books, though I've listened to hours of her talks over the years.

2019-11-21 23:29:15 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

She's not my idol. I don't worship her. She was a very flawed human being, like we all are.

2019-11-21 23:32:16 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

Just so we're clear (not baiting, just need context), you're implying that she created objectivism to validate her bad choices?

2019-11-21 23:37:15 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

*has literally never bought one of her books*

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