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2018-11-13 05:56:14 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

Have you seen those "japanese only" shops in Japan

2018-11-13 06:03:03 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

That's different

2018-11-13 06:03:07 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

That's literally racial discrimination

2018-11-13 06:04:16 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

That's like having "whites" and "colored" stores and drinking fountains

2018-11-13 06:04:31 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

In the Pre-1960s America

2018-11-13 06:07:03 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

And they're not individualists either

2018-11-13 06:07:10 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

They're hell of collectivist

2018-11-13 06:07:21 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

Shouldn't you be against that?

2018-11-13 06:08:00 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

Because they have a social facade of "niceness"

2018-11-13 06:08:11 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

Because it's a collectivist thing

2018-11-13 06:08:25 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

That's why they seem quote-on-quote "Loyal"

2018-11-13 06:09:16 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

That's... Just being nationalist.

2018-11-13 06:09:21 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

And a lot of countries are nationalist.

2018-11-13 06:16:32 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

Also another thing

2018-11-13 06:16:44 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

People might say China became collectivist with communism

2018-11-13 06:16:46 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

But honestly

2018-11-13 06:16:51 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

China has always been pretty collectivist

2018-11-13 06:18:59 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

It depends on where you go

2018-11-13 06:19:10 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

Coastal China is very much a dog-eat-dog world

2018-11-13 06:19:27 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

It very much resembles America in the gilded ages

2018-11-13 06:19:46 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

Oh come on

2018-11-13 06:19:56 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

The more "collectivist" parts are in the inner parts of the state

2018-11-13 06:20:35 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

Well yes

2018-11-13 06:20:46 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

Because those parts are treated like shit

2018-11-13 06:20:50 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

Compared to the cities

2018-11-13 06:21:03 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

If you don't pass the Gaokao and go to a large city to college

2018-11-13 06:21:05 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

You're fucked

2018-11-13 06:21:19 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

Well, it did get a lot better since the 80s

2018-11-13 06:21:25 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

But the countryside is still just

2018-11-13 06:21:30 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

Absolutely horrible

2018-11-13 06:22:07 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

China's countryside is much more radical

2018-11-13 06:22:09 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

That's the thing

2018-11-13 06:22:24 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

How?

2018-11-13 06:22:50 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

Wouldn't you want the coastal area to lead the country's direction of growth if you want a more "individualist" China?

2018-11-13 06:23:02 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

The countryside is literally everything that you'd detest

2018-11-13 06:23:31 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

More radical in that they're missing the "good old days"

2018-11-13 06:23:41 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

In the 60s

2018-11-13 06:24:06 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

Well

2018-11-13 06:24:16 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

The more modernized an area in China is

2018-11-13 06:24:19 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

The more individualist it is

2018-11-13 06:24:25 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

Modernized as in

2018-11-13 06:24:27 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

"Urbanized"

2018-11-13 06:24:44 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

... Goddammit.

2018-11-13 06:24:49 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

It was backwards

2018-11-13 06:24:57 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

Cities = less collectivist

2018-11-13 06:25:03 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

Countryside = more collectivist

2018-11-13 06:25:24 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

Think about it, it does make sense, doesn't it?

2018-11-13 06:25:36 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

You're not American, right?

2018-11-13 06:25:56 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

Are you from an european country perhaps

2018-11-13 06:26:39 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

I'm guessing either Germany or France?

2018-11-13 06:27:04 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

Oh come on

2018-11-13 06:27:07 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

Ah

2018-11-13 06:27:09 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

Okay

2018-11-13 06:27:29 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

Well, Ger/Fr/UK is what people first think of when they say "European"

2018-11-13 06:27:54 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

What?

2018-11-13 06:27:56 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

That's true lol

2018-11-13 06:28:27 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

At least that's what ppl usually mean when they say "European" here in the states

2018-11-13 06:28:53 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

But they're overwhelmingly white

2018-11-13 06:28:55 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

As in

2018-11-13 06:28:59 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

+87% White

2018-11-13 06:29:31 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

Oh come on

2018-11-13 06:29:39 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

As much as I hate the conservativeness of the Muslims

2018-11-13 06:29:46 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

They haven't managed to "change" any traditions

2018-11-13 06:29:51 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

Like

2018-11-13 06:30:07 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

There's no german holiday or French holiday that's being cancelled or destroyed

2018-11-13 06:30:16 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

Because of a few brown people

2018-11-13 06:30:44 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

Well

2018-11-13 06:30:56 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

That's overrepresentation in one ethnic group

2018-11-13 06:31:07 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

But do they have any bureaucratic power

2018-11-13 06:31:11 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

They don't

2018-11-13 06:31:32 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

Most of the bureaucratic power still lie in the hands of native ethnic Frenchies or Germans

2018-11-13 06:32:03 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

They still have all of their holidays and foods

2018-11-13 06:32:16 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

And they're still overwhelmingly Catholic/Protestant

2018-11-13 06:33:00 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

And France doesn't exactly like non-whites

2018-11-13 06:33:03 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

Its people are liberal

2018-11-13 06:33:06 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

But

2018-11-13 06:33:13 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

Have you seen their policies towards their ex-colonies

2018-11-13 06:33:20 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

They're fucking ferocious

2018-11-13 06:34:33 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

Not exactly

2018-11-13 06:34:40 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

How do you explain the Malian Empire

2018-11-13 06:34:53 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

And ethiopia (Which was christian even before colonization)

2018-11-13 06:34:55 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

And Egypt

2018-11-13 06:35:05 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

Is still African

2018-11-13 06:35:25 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

African doesn't just mean Brown people

2018-11-13 06:35:37 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

It means whatever is on the continent is Africa

2018-11-13 06:36:11 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

Pfffft

2018-11-13 06:36:15 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

Whatever fits your bill I guess

2018-11-13 06:37:12 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

Why do you hate the fucking slavs so much

2018-11-13 06:37:28 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

Like I kind of see it with anything east of Belarus

2018-11-13 06:37:37 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

But what's wrong with Slovakia and Czech Republic

2018-11-13 06:38:12 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

Russia was one of the great powers through 17th-20th century Europe

2018-11-13 06:38:58 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

And former Czechoslovakia aren't any more or less corrupt than Poland

2018-11-13 06:39:27 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

CZ/SL have roughly the same living conditions/GDP per capita/corruption levels as Poland

2018-11-13 06:39:33 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

So I don't see why you see them as worse

2018-11-13 06:39:43 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

Slavs are European

2018-11-13 06:39:59 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

Oh come on

2018-11-13 06:40:13 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

European = countries in Europe

2018-11-13 06:40:33 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

Israel might have a lot of European Jews

2018-11-13 06:40:38 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

But it is still Asian

2018-11-13 06:40:57 UTC [/leftypol/ International #chinese]  

Middle Eastern is Asian

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