You are dumb, MarketSoc

Good you can still be salvaged

I already called out for bait a long time ago

New topic: Free speech under socialism

I say freedom to criticize the Party is necessary in order for 1) the Party to learn from the masses, and 2) the Party to develop

@Firefly I could guess that from your moderating style

But, all *reactionary organization* should be destroyed

The reactionaries do not gain support by defeating leftist arguments in public debates - no, they gain support by misleading those that are poorly informed

Thus, reactionary organization, including speech, should be not only suppressed, but punished through re-education

Because imprisonment for punishment is not materialist, those that can't be reformed should either be assigned to mental hospitals or executed (if in a revolutionary situation where resources are not abundant)

This only sows the seeds for revolt and allows rightist organization

No, because that compromises the security of the socialist state, and by extension, the people

And only further creates windows for opportunists

Being proud of your race is absolutely stupid

It creates unnecessary divides in society

It leads to racial chauvinism

Again, the main problem is that it is not feasible to thoroughly educate the entire population, or expect that a thoroughly educated population isn't prone to corruption by rightist organization

All measures should be taken to prevent the creation of domestic reaction, but domestic reaction will occur

And when it does, it should be destroyed

I said, I support education as a tool to *prevent* domestic reaction from occurring, but that doesn't erase the possibility of domestic reaction. When it does occur, it has to be destroyed in order to preserve the functioning of the socialist state. What does this look like? Forced re-education of all members involved, followed by re-employment and re-location. What does re-education look like? Certainly not torture and forced labor, that would only instill contempt against the state. Re-education would consist of an individualized programme designed to compel the rightist to self-criticize and realize the errors he has committed. *This* is the proper solution to dealing with domestic reaction in an established socialist society.

In a revolutionary situation, resources are scarce, and this process cannot take place. The solution in this case is either 1) temporary imprisonment or 2) execution

You are clinging onto liberal ideas about society that do not apply in socialist society. Right-wing organizations cannot exist, because they are incompatible with the very nature of democratic centralism. Also, if there is no compulsory education, how is a quality, skilled workforce meant to be created?

Oh, I was under the impression that you were ML

So, there are no delegates, there are no soviets, etc. Would the Supreme Soviet simply be the vanguardists that spearheaded the revolution?

How would this un-democratic centralism be organized?

How would delegates of the supreme soviet be allocated?

Kill centrists

No mercy to centrists

You still haven't answered - is there mass participation in the Party? How are the Party officials allocated?

Then what is the point of a delegation?

No, he is not talking about democratic centralism

This is anti-ML, by the way

You are not ML, you are Blanquist or something

Sounds technocratic

Do you have any foundational texts?

Because so far it seems embyronic

If DeLeon were alive today, he would not be a DeLeonist

It was entirely a product of the social conditions of the 1880s 1890s

Industrial unions were a powerful lobbying and organizational force, so it was viable at that time

It's totally outdated

I'm not doing that right now

I did

To look at later, not at your command

Whoa we've moved onto the Jewish Question

@Firefly Are you there

Seed it: It is rare

Should liberals be killed?

LOL shut up idiot

USSR 👍 👍 👍

Venezuela is not socialist, but I wish that it were

Anarchy is order

No, it's not an oxymoron, retard

Read anarchist theory

Anarchy is order - that's basic

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O = order

LOL Russia has private ownership of means of production, protection of property rights, market system, exchange of capital

what the fuck else does it need to be capitalist

capitalism IS oligarchic LOL

Capitalism tends towards oligarchy IDIOT

The very nature of capitalism is hierarchical

Hey idiot companies exist to generate profit, that is a literal basic incentive to provide the least common denominator of quality to consumers

He is a troll, lol

I called this out yesterday Xenlordo is 100% a troll

This is a retard-level analysis

Free markets are not sustainable economically or politically

"It's not supposed to be sustainable" LOL thanks for agreeing with Marx

That was a brief period of time to get foreign investment in the USSR

USSR had not gone through a phase of capitalist development

No, it literally doesn't

Look at the incredible increase of food production under Mao post 1958

Huge population explosion, more than doubled the population

No it

Wikipedia has been proven to lie and have horrible sources for information

They cite Solzhenitsyn as a factual source

When his book is basically a fucking fiction

They cite Robert Conquest too

And other anticommunist writers

I have in fact debunked many sources wikipedia has used

But they refuse to accept my edits because they are obstinate as fuck

Ask yourself- why is there a page for "Mass Killings under Communist Regimes" but not a page for "Mass Killings under Capitalist Regimes"

WE have tried to make a page for that many many times, but it has always been shut down

This can't be considered a debate

amen comrade

Kill Whites

Like if you agree

That is a joke server

the DPRK is a democracy

The parties of the DPRK have mass participation, delegates are nominated by the party and are either rejected or accepted by the electorate

The delegates are chosen by the people first through the mechanisms of the Party, and are then either rejected or accepted

https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/strong-anna-louise/1949/in-north-korea/ch04.htm

This is from the Inter-parliamentary Union

It is an analysis of the DPRK's electoral process