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@Muten do you read theory?

Political theory

Economic theory

Philosophy

You shouldn’t be allowed to have an opinion on politics if you don’t read philosophy and theory

It’s literally the foundation of all modern society

How could you understand anything without it

What is the difference between an incontinent man and a bad man?

You should read theory.

Just my general advice to all people here

All theory should be read really

But you should have a good base in the Greeks and romans

The amout of times an idea was transferred does not mean it has any less value

There’s a lot more nuance to ideas than meets the eye and that’s why writing is more suitable for expressing them

They should

Elitism is saying that only a small group of people should read

If you actually want to learn more about politics and not just be stuck in this loop of “destroy libtards -> be obsessed” then you should read

It doesn’t have to be much

Just 5 pages a day is more than most

Then you are getting actual smart ideas filtered though people’s own biases

@Muten do you believe in utilitarianism?

Okay let’s assume you do. Then one source may explain it well and another badly based on how they interpret it. You don’t actually engage with the whole ideas in themselves. You just get fragments

Utilitarianism is, very roughly, the idea that the ends of a moral system justify the means

So is killing 10 people okay to save your wife?

It’s a way to think of moral philosophy

It IS a moral philosophy

“radicalization is the only way to get anything done tho. no one pays attention to mundane nuanced debate these days”

Marxism and Egoism both sprung out of the nuances of Hegel’s philosophy

They are VERY opposed

The dominos are set by philosophy though

It is ultimately ideas which move the world

Well of course, but that’s a trite point @HunDread

hahahahaha

Do you realy think we will have a 2nd civil war?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I’m sorry but that will never happen

Not in a million years

No, it won’t happen

This is a delusion of most Republicans because they can only see the forming of new ideals through violence. Almost no people on the left want violence. It won’t happen, you people just have no way of seeing it

I’m not talking to you specifically

I understand that you aren’t thinking of a civil war in a clean-cut-blue-vs-red kind of way

I’m saying that it won’t happen

The people of America, especially leftists have no idea what it’s like to live without

When faced with the descision they won’t

The people of America in 1776 are vastly different than those today

Do you know what it’s like to not eat for 3 days? @UnScottable

Even 4 maybe?

@UnScottable what’s the longest amount of time you’ve marched for?

When’s the last time you ever killed a man?

My point is that it won’t happen

People are too cushioned

Do you really think that people are going to give up 3 meals a day and TV at evening for a literal WAR

You have no idea what WAR is like

Are you prepared to watch people writhe in agony in front of you and beg for you to kill them over gun rights?

Are you ready to look a man in the eyes as you shoot him dead?

Answer one then

You haven’t even answered one

Wanna know why?

All of them are “no”

People aren’t ready for war

Are you sure about that?

You haven’t ever seen someone die in real like and it’s painfully obvious

Especially in a horrible way

Have you?

I’m right aren’t I?

I agree with you that the civil war 2 or whatever it’s called seems to be in motion. However, people aren’t ready for the horrors of WAR. You do realize that men from WW2 had PTSD from even seeing it right? How bad do you think it will be when you have to kill former friends, neighbors, even family?

The 2nd civil war will never happen

@Laucivol I was just trying to demonstrate how unthought his point was

You do realize that men in desert storm got PTSD from watching kids be shredded by apaches right?

@UnScottable holy shit bro. That’s has NOTHING to do with what the shadow is

Euro chat

Wearing clothes is vain

In all seriousness though, if we were to consider fashion vanity, then why would hairstyles, basic hygiene, and any other attempt at bettering the physics self not be vain

Why not let them have makeup

What’s wrong with having a scent?

Who has read Hegel here

Hegel isn’t too bad with supplementary reading

You just have to swallow the pride

I’m sure his 18th century prose is very grating to a modern German speaker though

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