The Holocaust and Slavery are both pretty damn right horrible

That's a pretty big part, they both practiced race politics and ignored the Democratic will of the USA

By seceding when Abe became President

Only so they can preserve Slavery, States rights was just a front to that idea

You're defending the country which defended Slavery

And slaves were abolished after the War

The political bloc of the South prevented that

And John Brown died

Because of State Law

By a Slave State!

The amendment came via the Federal Legislature?

States were not involved in ratifying

Slavery on a mass scale would have likely phased out 20 years after the fact but their would still be large scale discrimination and suppression of Blacks in America if the Republicans never got involved in Southern States

The social order of blacks under whites would remain

I bet we think reconstruction was a disaster for two different reasons

Aye the Southern Slavery institutional would have ended with violence no matter what

White people in the South were petrified of black people

The South just couldn't afford the losses

Pretty much agree with you there, that was impressive military tactic wise

I wonder what would the World look like if the American Revolutionary war was lost

I mean the French Revolution was just around the corner

So general liberal beliefs would spread

Their would probably be a larger Canada of sorts

China is taking their historical position in the world of Global dominance

China goes through its books and then busts

But it always maintains a preminance

Muslims can be French as well?

Bruh

Hey, if we're going to demonise Islam we've got to remember that it's generally religion fundamentalism which creates these problems

Hey general Religious teachings are dangerous

By their inherent nature Abrahmic religions are dogmatic

I mean the only reason Christianity isn't that radical

Is due to secular beliefs

And general Liberal Values

Look, dogmatic belief in a religion creates radicalism. Opposition to homosexuals and encouragement of stoning exists in the bible

God does provided disproportionate punishment to people, with the bible encouraging murder especially within the Old Testament

If you pin morality to any god

Then it is inherently dangerous

That's a retarded take

Btw the bible lays out women who have premarital sex should be stoned

States people should be submissive to their masters and etc

The issue is not with Islam, but with religion as a whole and its application

Argument rekt

Islam is compatible with secular beliefs, look at Turkey pre-Erdogan

You can't just pick and choose Christians and then turn around and say all Muslims are radical because of X

But the difference is here

They are radical muslims

And those Christians weren't Christians

Christianity has a pretty negative slate as well

The Misery and death caused by the reformation split, the oppression of Homosexuals, the Crusades is a common example and the overall suppression of the Enlightenment and Scientific Revolution @tntkoren

Everything has shutdown where I am

Who is your preferred Democrat?

Socialist Biden gonna take away our rights

Truly a rich debate

The traditional way of marriage is better

Where their are no parents

@hyperiacob Bruh fake news

Age of Consent laws are 18 in California

I don't get it, why isn't the age of drinking alcohol lowered in the US? Surely it would be popular?

What's the hot take on that?

Idk his polling is holding out <@789927915260215317> , job approval is generally high from the data I've glanced through

Do you have to be a Republican to be American now?

<@789927915260215317> Ye according to RealClearPolitics listed polls

Although I might just be fucking up in reading American dates

<@789927915260215317> What are you basing NY going red on?

Can you prove that?

That would be a substantial shift in US politics if NY went red

NY turning red is not happening

Nothing indicates it

Even if Cuomo theoretically isn't liked he'll just get replaced by another Dem

But makes up a minority of the population

That poll map says he's doing favourable?

He's double digits ahead

And besides a dislike of a Governor will see another Democrat elected

Partisanship effectively ensures that

I mean nothing is impossible

And anything can change

But it's very unlikely

Ye he's a Dem

Socialism is when the government does stuff

The more stuff it does the more socialist it is

If its a whole load of stuff

Then its communism

That was satire btw

China?

That's stupid

I have never heard any democrat say that

Nor anybody on the left

That's just a straight up lie, Joe Biden is a Catholic ffs

Literally bending reality to fit your narrative

He is a Catholic

Most Democrats are Christian one way or the other

Honestly Christians are not under threat at all @PreposterousRex

Don't worry

Seriously

As opposed to Trump who certainly isn't using Christianity as a political tool?

For sure

I mean the Democrats ain't that different to Republicans

So nothing materially will change

The battle now really is between left wing populism and right wing populism