zeph cmon

@casualgardener These debates always end the same way. All the "racism" that you are referring to is conjecture.

@Zephial No, I actually give a shit about my beliefs so when I meet someone with different opinions, communicating to them in the most effective way possible should be the most importaint thing.

@casualgardener The only emperical source that you provided was a study by a news site with a bias, taking a selective year, without any controls.

@Centurion What is my what

@Centurion I'm Celtic and Nordic

@casualgardener Why is it that when blacks drop out if they have white teachers, its immediately "implied or explicit racism", but when they commit the vast majority of murders its also because of cultural reasons aka because they're "oppressed" aka because of racism. The thing is, everything is always racism's fault when there is an unexplained gap and looking for any other reason is immediately dismissed.

oh wow

the terrorist group

ok

hahahahahaha

WHAT

ARE YOU KIDDING ME

THE BLACK PANTHERS WERE FUCKING TERRORISTS

THEY BROUGHT LOADED WEAPONS TO PROTESTS

@casualgardener You are against everything martin luther stood for

when he fuck did i speak for him

do you know what speaking for someone is?

Just because someone makes a statement that goes against what a historical figure preached is not "speaking for them"

making conjecture or asserting opinions is speaking for them

not going off what they fuckign said lol

😐

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"you can watch videos of it"

you do know thats like

a redflag and a logical fallacy

weasle words

google weasel words

"you havent investigated this:

"there are videos"

"experts say..."

"its well accepted"

google

weasel

words

ahahahahah

ahahhaahhahahaha

hahahaahhahahahahaha

omg

omg u guys

that website

he linked

this

is a fucking article

Guy: My girlfriend wants to be her roommate’s sex slave—and I like it

Guy: My girlfriend wants to be her roommate’s sex slave—and I like it

THE CUCK MEME IS REAL

https://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/dan-savage-love-roommate-sex-slave-buddy-bating/Content?oid=31768792

oh my god im fucking dying

@casualgardener

@casualgardener Yeah, not by a website that writes columns about being a literal cuckhold

is that evolution stops at the neck

and that

infering otherwise

means that you contribute to this large invisible monolith of racism that can never be actually proven or pointed out, and in cases that they are they are removed from their position of power

but somehow still

because they are not doing well the logical conclusion does not matter

its an invisble racism

rofl

@casualgardener Tell me why police being more cautious around a population that commits 10X more murder than anyone else is not justified and i'll paypal you $80 right now.

@casualgardener Right, so if someone reaches for their pants to pull something out and there is a 50% chance it's a gun

youre just gonna sit there

and get shot

that is almost ALL police "murders"

because they were not complying

and they had a reasonable fear for their life

uhhh

non-compliance == greater threat == higher chance of resisting == higher chance of having a weapon

@casualgardener No one said that

stop strawmanning

no one is fucking saying that

@casualgardener No I did not. Please quote where I said that non compliance means they have a gun

@casualgardener You are like a logical fallacy machine

higher chance =/= absolutely has

false equivelancy

pay attention

@casualgardener If someone reaches for their pants to pull out a gun you have about 0.25 seconds to save your life

If you tell someone who you believe is a threat not to reach for their pockets

and they reach for their pockets

there is reason to believe your life is in danger

because they did not comply

so shooting them is justified

okay, the vast minority?

The difference is that if a police is pointing a gun at me, i'm not going to make sudden movements to places where handguns are commonly stored and then have my family cry racism when im dead.

That is the vast, vast majority of police "murders"

brb poop and smoke

cmon

you need to show proof

if youre gonna make a statement like that

@casualgardener https://www.propublica.org/article/deadly-force-in-black-and-white

Black officers account for a little more than 10 percent of all fatal police shootings. Of those they kill, though, 78 percent were black.

White officers, given their great numbers in so many of the country’s police departments, are well represented in all categories of police killings. White officers killed 91 percent of the whites who died at the hands of police. And they were responsible for 68 percent of the people of color killed.

In 2013, 29% of all crime suspects fatally killed by police were black. However, blacks accounted for 50% of all murders in 2013. Blacks commit many other serious crimes at rates higher than 29%. This suggests that white suspects are actually more likely to be shot by police than black suspects.

So lemme guess, black cops are racist too, right?

holy fuck

im done

@casualgardener They can, but the face is

okay

let me break down your own argument

because you seem not to understand what you are saying

okay