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2017-02-04 05:47:27 UTC

K

2017-02-04 05:54:34 UTC

Have you signed up on VOAT?

2017-02-04 05:55:59 UTC

Not yet.

2017-02-04 05:57:20 UTC

I may tomorrow. Seems like it's getting traction as a platform. I didn't do more than lurk reddit tho.

2017-02-04 05:59:02 UTC

What all got booted from reddit?

2017-02-04 05:59:48 UTC

"I don't say that sodomize the weak is our motto". - Brett

2017-02-04 05:59:50 UTC

what a liar

2017-02-04 06:00:07 UTC

have you guys listened to the podcast

2017-02-04 06:00:40 UTC

Yeah lol

2017-02-04 06:01:25 UTC

It's great

2017-02-04 06:01:34 UTC

yeah pretty informative so far

2017-02-04 06:01:55 UTC

I like the part where their dissect alt-right

2017-02-04 06:02:14 UTC

its really a thing missing in the scene

2017-02-04 06:02:25 UTC

@MRB coontown, AltRight, and pretty much everything in that vein

2017-02-04 06:02:37 UTC
2017-02-04 06:02:50 UTC

@-A faggotty in action

2017-02-04 06:03:46 UTC

what is alt-right

2017-02-04 06:04:00 UTC

anti-equality?

2017-02-04 06:04:07 UTC

or anti-modernity?

2017-02-04 06:04:17 UTC

or is it the same thing

2017-02-04 06:04:47 UTC

both

2017-02-04 06:04:56 UTC

Yup

2017-02-04 06:05:06 UTC

yes but if you had to choose one

2017-02-04 06:05:33 UTC

i'd choose anti-equality because its more descriptive

2017-02-04 06:06:01 UTC

if i had to choose a term to describe the alt-right

2017-02-04 06:07:14 UTC

@Yarbles if I remember right somebody made the point that modernity gave room for equality. Yes?

2017-02-04 06:07:30 UTC

One ked to the other so to speak

2017-02-04 06:07:39 UTC

One led*

2017-02-04 06:08:07 UTC

It used to be I'm King and chosen by God and we're also unequal in heaven

2017-02-04 06:08:22 UTC

Then it went well I'm still King but in heaven were going to be equal

2017-02-04 06:08:49 UTC

Once there was no God there was nothing reinforcing the heirarchy

2017-02-04 06:09:08 UTC

@MRB yes but what is modernity?

2017-02-04 06:09:39 UTC

You have to be disconnected from nature to even think that things are equal

2017-02-04 06:09:55 UTC

as we are

2017-02-04 06:10:27 UTC

as species

2017-02-04 06:10:32 UTC

@Yarbles that makes the most sense

2017-02-04 06:11:12 UTC

what is the opposite of eqalitarian

2017-02-04 06:11:33 UTC

hierarchy

2017-02-04 06:11:52 UTC

that is the word that people seem to be afraid of

2017-02-04 06:12:12 UTC

They're afraid of nature

2017-02-04 06:12:17 UTC

Ultimately

2017-02-04 06:12:56 UTC

yes but nature is hierarchical

2017-02-04 06:13:06 UTC

in its core

2017-02-04 06:13:30 UTC

like, everyone has its place

2017-02-04 06:13:54 UTC

but there's always someone stronger or faster than you

2017-02-04 06:14:28 UTC

Having to admit that is what they fear

2017-02-04 06:15:04 UTC

And as yarbs said it's ultimately the nature

2017-02-04 06:15:14 UTC

but that is a frightening thought

2017-02-04 06:15:15 UTC

Or I would say the natural order.

2017-02-04 06:15:29 UTC

to the rational part of our brain

2017-02-04 06:15:57 UTC

It is. But it's more real than out own hamsters

2017-02-04 06:16:04 UTC

yes

2017-02-04 06:16:57 UTC

It's the external we fear I think. Completely stepping out of our own bias. A lack of perceived control I suppose.

2017-02-04 06:17:13 UTC

you nailed it

2017-02-04 06:17:51 UTC

Ultimately an objective truth that nature provides I suppose.

2017-02-04 06:24:14 UTC

Sorry, my mom called me needing help with her streaming stuff. Anyway, I think you three nailed it good and hard. If I were to define modernity, though, it would be different from the word itself purely defined. It would mean, in this case, the living concept of Modernism. Modernism is the belief that we have, through some great idea or some great system (more so the latter) we have been elevated beyond the mean, bad old systems of the past. Modernity as modernism is the belief that we are all equal because democracy, enlightenment, cargo cults-as-education and microprocessors. Oh, and medicine.

2017-02-04 06:25:43 UTC

Functionality yeah that's about right imo

2017-02-04 06:26:48 UTC

Utilitarianism.

2017-02-04 06:27:22 UTC

Never been a fan of the greatest utility idea

2017-02-04 06:27:38 UTC

Too many beans to count lol

2017-02-04 06:27:54 UTC

That's what I pissed off my ethic prof with anyway

2017-02-04 06:28:26 UTC

My word. I can only imagine the mental gymnastics of pushing this shit in an ethics class.

2017-02-04 06:28:59 UTC

Lol

2017-02-04 06:29:50 UTC

His bias was awesome tho. He posed a question on moral relativism that fucked with people

2017-02-04 06:30:44 UTC

Something like: if your child was playing at the neighbors house and they believed in child sacrifice would you, as a moa

2017-02-04 06:31:23 UTC

Moral relativist, allow them to sacrifice your child?

2017-02-04 06:32:11 UTC

Wow. I can understand how that would trap the young mind, well, the average young mind. After all, you are supposed to be morally relativistic so, you kind of have to.

2017-02-04 06:32:38 UTC

Yup. Maybe 4-5 peeps saw the trap.

2017-02-04 06:33:10 UTC

He laughed at everybody that missed it. Great dude n

2017-02-04 06:33:42 UTC

Total utilitarian tho, which is why I tormented him with bean counting

2017-02-04 06:33:45 UTC

Lol

2017-02-04 06:34:57 UTC

How did you do that? Give him make work by compartmentalizing the material in your work as much as possible? Asking trifling but hair splitting and technically relevant questions? High school must have been a blast for you.

2017-02-04 06:35:06 UTC

Watching the teachers take it so seriously.

2017-02-04 06:39:46 UTC

Lol yeah. With him it was in a bit of fun though.

2017-02-04 06:40:23 UTC

I usually do shit like that when I'm bored.

2017-02-04 06:40:42 UTC

LOL.

2017-02-04 06:40:56 UTC

A game of cat and also cat in the classroom.

2017-02-04 06:41:53 UTC

Yup. Most the time they knew what I was up to. Classmates thought they were learning more in depth stuff.

2017-02-04 06:42:07 UTC

Kind of funny

2017-02-04 06:42:10 UTC

Those poor, simple bastards.

2017-02-04 06:43:00 UTC

Yeah. College was fun. Small town hs not so much. Shit teachers waiting out retirement.

2017-02-04 06:43:21 UTC

Fuck with them and you get an F and have to take the semester over. Right?

2017-02-04 06:44:02 UTC

Pretty much. Check all the boxes, don't fall in line, be different or difficult. F

2017-02-04 06:44:31 UTC

Johnny 5-0 waiting to execute the truancy laws first chance he gets...

2017-02-04 06:45:08 UTC

Yup lol. It was kind of fun tho. The playing sports part anyway lol

2017-02-04 06:45:50 UTC

I much preferred just being a smart ass all the time. I should have gotten an academic scholarship for running my mouth and sharpening my tongue.

2017-02-04 06:46:15 UTC

Lol

2017-02-04 06:48:07 UTC

It got to a point when I just couldn't turn it off and I would completely forget the context of my attitude and the situation I was in. Well, that only lasted for about a year before I realized I actually hurt someone's feelings and that it just wasn't funny. Everybody has their lessons to learn I guess. Now, I don't always have something to say but at the same time, we are so beyond parody that the only thing there is to say to some shit is: "Go on."

2017-02-04 06:49:38 UTC

Yeah. I pass it off as active listening. Yeah. Oh yeah? Really. Etc

2017-02-04 06:50:30 UTC

I also have mellowed/matured and met more people that actually respect. I am reasonably softer because I don't feel surrounded by enemies anymore.

2017-02-04 06:52:03 UTC

Same. I convert what I can. Dont necessarily respect many, but it's functional. The rest. Meh.

2017-02-04 06:52:56 UTC

Half the shit you and I have talked about in the last 30 would fly over most people I know. I feel like I'm in mentor mode most the time.

2017-02-04 06:53:21 UTC

That sounds exhausting.

2017-02-04 06:53:45 UTC

It can be, but I'm creating it as I go.

2017-02-04 06:54:36 UTC

Creating your special approach to being a mentor?

2017-02-04 06:55:16 UTC

Creating my own little world is the best way to put it I guess.

2017-02-04 06:55:46 UTC

Which I suppose we all do and I'm just acknowledging that.

2017-02-04 06:56:11 UTC

I don't mind. It does hamper my development tho.

2017-02-04 07:00:52 UTC

I recommend reading more. Get more books on philosophy, science, history (I wish I could find a good source for that cuz there is a lot of bullshit) and even learn new languages in Duo Lingo. Also, look into neuro-cognitive exercises such as here:(http://ludism.org/mentat/BrainBooks) and keep up on etymology and usage of more words. If you maintain a good vocabulary (that for me, begins to dwindle because as much of a smart ass as I am, I am an introvert and go all Nell and make my own language if I am not careful) it can simulate the development that comes from healthy socializing.

As for making your own world, other than the benefits of the Memory Palace (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Method_of_loci) as long as you acknowledge that it is your escape, there is an outside and you must be mindful of it, I don't think it causes too much damage.

2017-02-04 07:01:35 UTC

I read...well a lot lol

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