also

look them up on wikipedia

and look up ALL their members

tell me if you notice something

No education?

lol okay i get your point, without even looking them up i'm fine to disregard that study

Just a guess

okay

just

please for a second

can you accept that maybe

just maybe

That because africans have no % of neanderthal DNA and europeans and asians have a high amount (east asians with the highest IQ have up to 2.6%) could possibly play ANY role in their limbic emotional-territorial-behavioral circuity?

Is that even remotely possible to you?

because

the problem with all this

is that there is a logical conclusion that you refuse to see because you've been told its "wrong" all your life

what you are not allowed to say

what you are not allowed to do

maybe its true

all you have to do

is set aside your bias for one minute

here's my issue wit hthat

and take an unobjective look

like Plato's allegory of the cave

once you step outside, the shadows on the wall will never look real again

This is a good example of the Backfire Effect

my issue is that there are clear inequalities that currently exist, and have historical precedent, and i've seen personally and heard about personally

and i feel that unless those inequalities are remedied, it's not possible to make a genetic argument because there are confounds

why is it that you don't believe in racism?

and believe in the genetic argument?

Because it doesn't exist in this scenario

White cops don't shoot blacks because they're black

It's because they felt that they we're in danger

well, you and i disagree that there are disproportionate shootings of blacks

particularly innocent blacks

there are

'innocent'

but black cops do it too

and saying that is racist is retarded

Buff as fuck

what is FAR more likely that black cops being racist against themselves

is that you have a problem that a lot of unintellegent religous people have

god of the gaps

god used to explain everything

but as soon as it got proven to be something else by science

god just filled in the rest of the gaps

same way with you

everything is because of racism

and you bring up examples

and when they get proven wrong

it must be because of some other racism

reidoon, what do you say to my postulation that it's "rational" based on crime percentages but should be corrected

Backfire effect

It's strong

@casualgardener If its rational it doesnt need to be corrected

i'm saying, even if it's based on real probabilities, it results in more innocent black death, and that's an ethical issue

that can be corrected

through training

Your info is incorrect, fake, and proves nothing

@casualgardener But it doesn't. The amount of innocents killed relative to the criminality of their population is not unethical.

Absolute zero

its about the same across the board

if 1 in 10 people shot by police are innocent

then that would obvious be more if more are arrested from crimes

Let me ask you something

the number is more, but you are ignoring relativity

Say you're a white cop

You attempt to arrest a large black man

He pulls a gun

What do you do?

shoot him

He clearly is not innocent

Wow

You

Oh my

lol stop

be nice

lol

I'm sorry bro

That went according to plan

reidoon, i'm saying that relying on an increased probability of black people being violent is unethical

You basically took back what you saif

and that there are more concrete signals that a suspect is violent/armed

sextipede, no i didn't

i have said the same thing this whole conversation about shooting

if they have a gun, go ahead, shoot

No you didn't

You said whites shouldn't shoot blacks basically

Because that's racist

no i didn't lol

that's a total misread of my statements

that makes me into a caricature

anyway, i'm going to try to gather some more data

thanks for your conversation

Try to proofread it

cops shoot innocent black people disproportionately more than they shoot innocent white people

bias training would alleviate this

fewer innocent people would die

more cops would die