but they are alot more difficult without guns

no.

https://archive.is/y3rQA , While he may or may not have gotten most of his guns legally, I cede the point that he snuck the guns into his hotel room illegally, since he was not allowed firearms in the hotel he was shooting from

SOMEONE PREDICTED IT

look at all the mass shootings in the u.s history, for instance in my city there was guy who went on top a tower with a sniper and picked off people, how would he do that with a knife?

how woudl a guy with a gun stab everyone?

dumb question

A pellet gun, or a nail gun

The perpetrators will use what is seen as fit.

@Scary_Clown lol no coz its easier to kill with a gun then knife a top a tower , moron

If he was really creative, a bag of throwing knives and some sharp aim

the biggest massacres in US history are hundreds of years old btw

Guns are not the only weapons of mass destruction as I said.

unless you country terrorist attacks

count*

And a truck / car could work just as well, if not better

imagine if a truck had plowed into that crowd

oh god

a big 18 wheeler

@Blood have a look at Aus for example... Yes we have little to no gun crimes BUT we have a huge violent crime problem still ('one punch kills' & stabbings)

full speed

you'd see a lot more than 500 dead

the death toll would've hit the hundreds

or wounded*

Yes, but It is hard for this to become apparent to our friend here, for he is convinced of guns as being the cause of mass annihilation.

it'd be a massacre

The issues isn't guns, the issue is mentally ill people

@Wheelz great so why havnt all the people that have done mass shooting in theu.s(alot of them) used a car instead?

@J U S T

Because, they have guns. @Blood

@Wheelz BINGO

If restricted, they will choose the most useful weapon of demise.

Focus on treating the mentally ill, and you'll see a HUGE decrease in crime overall (not just violent crime)

Banning weapons really solves nothing.

@J U S T i agree

Of course, how do you propose to help mentally ill people if they are adults and decide not to take their medicine?

@J U S T that's racist

Instituionalize all of the ones who make their own poor decisions?

Constantly monitor them and destroy what little right to privacy they had?

Some people are vacuous morons.

I'd rather infringe the rights of the mentally ill than the rights of everyone

@Wheelz ?

But where do we draw the line on what constitutes mentally ill?

? @Blood

were you talking about me

Not at all.

😃

There are some killers who are just barely autistic enough to fixate then kill. Some people are just paranoid

I made a statement.

Literally where would you draw the line?

@Blood But do you see the irrelevance of banning guns?

Is it at people that take medicine?

@Bar of Candy really depends

psychology isn't exactly their yet

Exactly what I'm trying to convey. And even if you DO throw millions as Psychology, it's a loose science that depends on too many variables, and depends entirely on the subjective idea of what should be normal parameters of the human brain

And that could lead to a darn slippery slope my friend

so let it keep going?

The entirety of our existance is subjective.

I'm talking about mental illness that is backed by evidence of chemical imbalances, irregular brain activity etc.

BTW mental illness with those symptoms are typically the more serious types that those who shoot up schools etc, have

So what, have everyone at the age of 25 get their mandatory brain scan before they get a gun?

I feel like shooting the school sometimes I admit.

..

lol, pls don't

But I can keep myself from doing such.

I have the means.

As many keks as that would be, I would prefer the wanton loss of life be kept to a minimum

No ... More people need to be aware of the warning signs that someone is struggling with a severe mental illness (believe it or not it isn't hard to tell!) then those people need to be assessed and tested

Define "wanton".

excessive?

Very well.

Hither/thither?

I thought it was a reference to something else.

Arbitrary

There we go, though I also probs spelt it wron

*wrong

Shit, I am procastinating instead of studying for a test.

I have life long procastination skills.

Also, There are false flags, and most people cannot be objective when looking into family members

The state of mental health care in America is retarded... Improve it a bit guys and you'll see an improvement.

dd

sorry testing

And how would enforce such a thing? Create a McCarthiest (sp?) state where we all tattle on each other to the thought police that "my family member is acting weird, can you forcibly get him checked out?"

I feel that @Wheelz , I should be writing a midterm, but eff that noise

I should get back to work.

Immerse myself in some patrician music.

Best of luck dude!

Thank you.

APUSH.

Think of it from this perspective:
Scenario A- oh my sons acting weird lately hmmm. He doesn't leave his room and he is always angry.... Must just be teenage things
Scenario B- oh my sons acting weird lately hmmm. He doesn't leave his room, he is always angry and he is just displaying antisocial behaviours... Maybe I ought to make him an appointment at the psychologists office.

Scenario A is a parent in today's America, Scenario B is a parent living in a society that is aware of the symptoms that may indicate a bigger underlying problem.

^ IF MORE PARENTS WERE LIKE SCENARIO B, LESS FUCKTARDS WOULD GO INTO ADULTHOOD AS FUCKTARDS

Blame comtemporary societal constructs.

Not the parents.

Just a moment, I have just the video to refute Scenario B

Early intervention is the key when it comes to mental illness

^

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt_JEMv2k6g

Basically what the video boils down to, is this guy tries to figure out ways to keep the Elliot Rogers Shooting from taking place. He goes over how assinine it would have been to try and keep him from killing people by taking away the guns. However he also goes over that how despite YEARS of therapy stretching back to those early warning signs, he still decided to refuse his meds and go on a rampage because he thought all women hated him.

I'm not saying it would fix it all, I'm saying it would lower the amount of incidents happening. Unfortunately no matter what you do you will still have some absolute FUCKTARDS

Here's what I'm trying to put forward, that even in a perfect world where everyone magically gets treatment, people are complex and unless you run a dictatorship the likes of which haven't been seen since WW2, you can't keep people from doing terrible things

I feel like instances of Elliott Rodger shootings can be prevented if people weren't so obsessed with pushing men going through struggles with loneliness down

Once again it's more person-centred and the handling of mental health rather than guns

He had a shitty homelife where he wasn't loved.

Not much an outsider can do about that

And he was bullied and lonely as fuck

well it's not like he kept these private

Yeah, and?

He would vent about these things on his channel and he had people in real life aware of his situation

He was getting treatment for it tho

People saw him get taped to a desk when sleeping and tormented

Doesn't mean the treatment wasn't shit

I've been through psychological treatment and these days it's mostly just pill-pushers and platitudes

It's more at fault here than his charisma being able to fool law enforcement to not do a search on him

Ok, depends on what you go to. was a doctor that prescribed you pills or helped you through therapy, because the pill pushers TECHNICALLY aren't just psychologists

Sure, not denying there's some good eggs out there in therapy

but there's no way of knowing for sure that Elliot's was one of them

especially considering they aren't common this day and age

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/10/03/legendary-rock-star-tom-petty-dead-at-66.html

shit... 😦

The world is fucked

I'm in Poland rn

everyone is legitimately based as fuck

It isn't just a T_D meme

Dude, I am so jealous of Poland, and part of me really wants to immerse myself in those Polish roots of mine holy shit.

It feels safe as fuck

I'm in Wroclaw

That's a city of 630,000

I felt perfectly safe wandering the city at night

(jet lag is a cunt)

Then I remember the standard of living in America and living in a nice town and I content myself wtih watching from afar

Yeah, wages seem super shitty

lol, well I'm glad to hear it!

Not the wages thing, that sucks

I was scoping out big 4 auditing wages

staying safe at night part

starting in Poland is like, $450 a week

It's like a full stack in the States

@ghost5525 So, did they finally figure out if he was alive or dead? Cause I know a few hours ago he was still recovering from a heart attack and was off life support.

He was braindead by the time he hit the hospital

oh rip, looked at the article

yea.... dude died the same way my mom did in May

whelp, time to go tell a friend

So the shit storm about 'not being dead yet' is a little

off

was likely down too long without oxygen

Yeah, that'll do it.

I wonder how much blow he did with Stevie Nicks

brought him back, but braindead...

And how the fuck is Keith Richards still alive

who knows

And how fucking long until we figure out how to reverse atherosclerosis

/rant

no kidding...

my mom smoked since she was 15 up until she died - 69 ... she had PVD/PAD so bad that in the course of 5 years she was a double amp.

A double amp?

amputation

Oh shit

legs

Yeah.

Dude fuck that

If h

I was amputated

Those are usually the first to go with poor circulation

or crippled

I'd exit stage right

lmao

I was very close to having that happen to me, but I managed to squirrel away

at the knee.... blood flow got so terrible they couldnt even get a stint in her knee area to help the blood flow... her leg was literally dying

I had a motorcycle accident 4 months ago

I was helpless, in all senses of the word, for a month

fuck that

Yikes

yea ....i think it broke her mentally cause she was a free person and liked going out and doing stuff and when she couldnt do it...and was confined to a wheelchair... she just gave up

It gets to ya

so ... PSA - if you smoke ...stop 😛

I'd consider myself a mentally strong person

But fuck, being bedridden wears ya down

@ghost5525 smoke what exactly

cigs

eww gross

PSA: Check out Emoxypine/Mexidol. Supposed anti-atherosclerotic

@KZ - yea... well that and Dad died the year before... in 2016... and he was a heavy drinker too... died of Liver Cirrosis - another way i would never wanna go out... the suffering and the whole process when it fails is...depressing

cigs are not worth it at all

nope

Alcohol fucks your cardiovascular system too

My uncle died the same way

yea tell that to the baby boomers though lol they grew up thinking it was cool and ok to do.

LAst year

Absolutely terrifying way to die

>make you smell
>horrible for you
>the buzz lasts only as you're smoking
>cost money

He was hallucinating

lung cancer is totally cool guis!

Literally 0 point

at least weed gets you high

and isn't as bad

ikr

Death by alcohol is absolutely terrifying

I can't drink

yea...you see em slip into a coma slowly...then organs start showing down because your liver cant filter out the toxins in the waste you are making...

I make impulsive bad decisions

cigs actually give you a buzz?

or become super thot

@Deleted User d0e93084 when I smoked yeah

They calmed me

When you first start smoking, yeah. Hell of a head rush

The worst of it is the Alcoholic generally knows they're on their way out

arent you a thot regularly?

And don't stop drinking

no

not that bad of one

everything i know is a lie...

This nigga was hallucinating in the hospital telling me to hide non existing cans of beer from non existing police officers

remember the last time i took him to the hospital he called me at work and said he woke up and it looks like a murder scene in his bed... like someone slit his throat... one of those throat varacies busted open and im suprised he didnt choke on his own blood

@ghost5525 jesus christ

@KZ hahahaha

yea.... spent the next 3 weeks at the VA .... in Palative care.... having fluid drained off him, and blood /platelettes

Did his Kidneys go too?

Wow, and now I'm never drinking..... ever

My uncle's kidney's shit the bed from something liver cirrhosis related

a

yea probably about.... 2 days before he died... he quit putting out much urine and stuff.

did he have cancer?

"Hepatic Encepahalopathy"

yep....

Alcoholic Liver Cirrosis

We thought he was going to be fine, that the hallucinations were just the booze DT's

my dad was bed ridden with chemo before he died

Nope.gif

bout a day and a half before he died though he developed this ....death rattle ... never forget it. Never wanna hear that again as long as i live.

My dogger had to be carried everywhere before he died.

😦

Death rattle?

😦

Like rambling?

The death rattle is the last breath tbh

poor doggo

Like by definition

Never heard the term before

Like the breath you release because of relaxing muscles.

Death rattle

no literally your throat makes this weird sound as if they have fluid in their throat and stuff...they can do it up to a day before death.

@Juan Rico i had to carry my dog before he got put down

he couldnt stand

Yeah I feel you man.

eh, I wasn't there when he died. I'll spend nights in the hospital with people, give them support. But if a plug is being pulled I'm outta there

and he shit all over the stairs...not his fault tho

mouth is usually stuck open and they are in a coma state..... body's remaining functions are on autopilot

yea both of mine went pretty badly imho.... def not on my list of ways i wanna die.

what is this depressed chat