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2017-10-03 04:22:13 UTC

but they are alot more difficult without guns

2017-10-03 04:22:20 UTC

no.

2017-10-03 04:22:43 UTC

https://archive.is/y3rQA , While he may or may not have gotten most of his guns legally, I cede the point that he snuck the guns into his hotel room illegally, since he was not allowed firearms in the hotel he was shooting from

2017-10-03 04:22:49 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/350739775214583812/364628333075365891/image.jpg

2017-10-03 04:22:56 UTC

SOMEONE PREDICTED IT

2017-10-03 04:22:56 UTC

look at all the mass shootings in the u.s history, for instance in my city there was guy who went on top a tower with a sniper and picked off people, how would he do that with a knife?

2017-10-03 04:23:30 UTC

how woudl a guy with a gun stab everyone?

2017-10-03 04:23:32 UTC

dumb question

2017-10-03 04:23:36 UTC

A pellet gun, or a nail gun

2017-10-03 04:23:48 UTC

The perpetrators will use what is seen as fit.

2017-10-03 04:23:52 UTC

@Scary_Clown lol no coz its easier to kill with a gun then knife a top a tower , moron

2017-10-03 04:23:57 UTC

If he was really creative, a bag of throwing knives and some sharp aim

2017-10-03 04:23:58 UTC

the biggest massacres in US history are hundreds of years old btw

2017-10-03 04:24:05 UTC

Guns are not the only weapons of mass destruction as I said.

2017-10-03 04:24:07 UTC

unless you country terrorist attacks

2017-10-03 04:24:28 UTC

count*

2017-10-03 04:24:31 UTC

And a truck / car could work just as well, if not better

2017-10-03 04:24:52 UTC

imagine if a truck had plowed into that crowd

2017-10-03 04:24:57 UTC

oh god

2017-10-03 04:24:57 UTC

a big 18 wheeler

2017-10-03 04:24:59 UTC

@Blood have a look at Aus for example... Yes we have little to no gun crimes BUT we have a huge violent crime problem still ('one punch kills' & stabbings)

2017-10-03 04:24:59 UTC

full speed

2017-10-03 04:25:07 UTC

you'd see a lot more than 500 dead

2017-10-03 04:25:11 UTC

the death toll would've hit the hundreds

2017-10-03 04:25:14 UTC

or wounded*

2017-10-03 04:25:15 UTC

Yes, but It is hard for this to become apparent to our friend here, for he is convinced of guns as being the cause of mass annihilation.

2017-10-03 04:25:23 UTC

it'd be a massacre

2017-10-03 04:25:31 UTC

The issues isn't guns, the issue is mentally ill people

2017-10-03 04:25:41 UTC

@Wheelz great so why havnt all the people that have done mass shooting in theu.s(alot of them) used a car instead?

2017-10-03 04:25:49 UTC
2017-10-03 04:25:57 UTC

Because, they have guns. @Blood

2017-10-03 04:26:09 UTC

@Wheelz BINGO

2017-10-03 04:26:11 UTC

If restricted, they will choose the most useful weapon of demise.

2017-10-03 04:26:19 UTC

Focus on treating the mentally ill, and you'll see a HUGE decrease in crime overall (not just violent crime)

2017-10-03 04:26:25 UTC

Banning weapons really solves nothing.

2017-10-03 04:26:26 UTC

@J U S T i agree

2017-10-03 04:26:26 UTC

Of course, how do you propose to help mentally ill people if they are adults and decide not to take their medicine?

2017-10-03 04:26:33 UTC

@J U S T that's racist

2017-10-03 04:26:46 UTC

Instituionalize all of the ones who make their own poor decisions?

2017-10-03 04:27:40 UTC

Constantly monitor them and destroy what little right to privacy they had?

2017-10-03 04:28:05 UTC

Some people are vacuous morons.

2017-10-03 04:28:07 UTC

I'd rather infringe the rights of the mentally ill than the rights of everyone

2017-10-03 04:28:22 UTC
2017-10-03 04:28:29 UTC

But where do we draw the line on what constitutes mentally ill?

2017-10-03 04:28:31 UTC
2017-10-03 04:28:40 UTC

were you talking about me

2017-10-03 04:28:45 UTC

Not at all.

2017-10-03 04:28:53 UTC

πŸ˜ƒ

2017-10-03 04:29:10 UTC

There are some killers who are just barely autistic enough to fixate then kill. Some people are just paranoid

2017-10-03 04:29:12 UTC

I made a statement.

2017-10-03 04:29:28 UTC

Literally where would you draw the line?

2017-10-03 04:29:32 UTC

@Blood But do you see the irrelevance of banning guns?

2017-10-03 04:29:40 UTC

Is it at people that take medicine?

2017-10-03 04:29:42 UTC

@Bar of Candy really depends

2017-10-03 04:29:48 UTC

psychology isn't exactly their yet

2017-10-03 04:31:01 UTC

Exactly what I'm trying to convey. And even if you DO throw millions as Psychology, it's a loose science that depends on too many variables, and depends entirely on the subjective idea of what should be normal parameters of the human brain

2017-10-03 04:31:16 UTC

And that could lead to a darn slippery slope my friend

2017-10-03 04:32:00 UTC

so let it keep going?

2017-10-03 04:32:04 UTC

The entirety of our existance is subjective.

2017-10-03 04:32:31 UTC

I'm talking about mental illness that is backed by evidence of chemical imbalances, irregular brain activity etc.

2017-10-03 04:33:07 UTC

BTW mental illness with those symptoms are typically the more serious types that those who shoot up schools etc, have

2017-10-03 04:33:30 UTC

So what, have everyone at the age of 25 get their mandatory brain scan before they get a gun?

2017-10-03 04:33:42 UTC

I feel like shooting the school sometimes I admit.

2017-10-03 04:33:48 UTC

..

2017-10-03 04:33:57 UTC

lol, pls don't

2017-10-03 04:34:03 UTC

But I can keep myself from doing such.

2017-10-03 04:34:09 UTC

I have the means.

2017-10-03 04:34:36 UTC

As many keks as that would be, I would prefer the wanton loss of life be kept to a minimum

2017-10-03 04:34:39 UTC

No ... More people need to be aware of the warning signs that someone is struggling with a severe mental illness (believe it or not it isn't hard to tell!) then those people need to be assessed and tested

2017-10-03 04:35:03 UTC

Define "wanton".

2017-10-03 04:35:19 UTC

excessive?

2017-10-03 04:35:28 UTC

Very well.

2017-10-03 04:35:33 UTC

Hither/thither?

2017-10-03 04:35:36 UTC

I thought it was a reference to something else.

2017-10-03 04:35:37 UTC

Arbitrary

2017-10-03 04:35:58 UTC

There we go, though I also probs spelt it wron

2017-10-03 04:36:02 UTC

*wrong

2017-10-03 04:36:29 UTC

Shit, I am procastinating instead of studying for a test.

2017-10-03 04:36:39 UTC

I have life long procastination skills.

2017-10-03 04:36:44 UTC

Also, There are false flags, and most people cannot be objective when looking into family members

2017-10-03 04:37:19 UTC

The state of mental health care in America is retarded... Improve it a bit guys and you'll see an improvement.

2017-10-03 04:37:24 UTC

dd

2017-10-03 04:37:29 UTC

sorry testing

2017-10-03 04:37:58 UTC

And how would enforce such a thing? Create a McCarthiest (sp?) state where we all tattle on each other to the thought police that "my family member is acting weird, can you forcibly get him checked out?"

2017-10-03 04:39:21 UTC

I feel that @Wheelz , I should be writing a midterm, but eff that noise

2017-10-03 04:40:06 UTC

I should get back to work.

2017-10-03 04:40:14 UTC

Immerse myself in some patrician music.

2017-10-03 04:40:28 UTC

Best of luck dude!

2017-10-03 04:40:32 UTC

Thank you.

2017-10-03 04:40:37 UTC

APUSH.

2017-10-03 04:41:16 UTC

Think of it from this perspective:
Scenario A- oh my sons acting weird lately hmmm. He doesn't leave his room and he is always angry.... Must just be teenage things
Scenario B- oh my sons acting weird lately hmmm. He doesn't leave his room, he is always angry and he is just displaying antisocial behaviours... Maybe I ought to make him an appointment at the psychologists office.

Scenario A is a parent in today's America, Scenario B is a parent living in a society that is aware of the symptoms that may indicate a bigger underlying problem.

2017-10-03 04:41:50 UTC

^ IF MORE PARENTS WERE LIKE SCENARIO B, LESS FUCKTARDS WOULD GO INTO ADULTHOOD AS FUCKTARDS

2017-10-03 04:42:18 UTC

Blame comtemporary societal constructs.

2017-10-03 04:42:24 UTC

Not the parents.

2017-10-03 04:42:27 UTC

Just a moment, I have just the video to refute Scenario B

2017-10-03 04:42:50 UTC

Early intervention is the key when it comes to mental illness

2017-10-03 04:43:03 UTC

^

2017-10-03 04:47:15 UTC

Basically what the video boils down to, is this guy tries to figure out ways to keep the Elliot Rogers Shooting from taking place. He goes over how assinine it would have been to try and keep him from killing people by taking away the guns. However he also goes over that how despite YEARS of therapy stretching back to those early warning signs, he still decided to refuse his meds and go on a rampage because he thought all women hated him.

2017-10-03 04:48:16 UTC

I'm not saying it would fix it all, I'm saying it would lower the amount of incidents happening. Unfortunately no matter what you do you will still have some absolute FUCKTARDS

2017-10-03 04:48:19 UTC

Here's what I'm trying to put forward, that even in a perfect world where everyone magically gets treatment, people are complex and unless you run a dictatorship the likes of which haven't been seen since WW2, you can't keep people from doing terrible things

2017-10-03 04:49:14 UTC

I feel like instances of Elliott Rodger shootings can be prevented if people weren't so obsessed with pushing men going through struggles with loneliness down

2017-10-03 04:49:37 UTC

Once again it's more person-centred and the handling of mental health rather than guns

2017-10-03 04:49:43 UTC

He had a shitty homelife where he wasn't loved.

2017-10-03 04:49:58 UTC

Not much an outsider can do about that

2017-10-03 04:50:03 UTC

And he was bullied and lonely as fuck

2017-10-03 04:50:24 UTC

well it's not like he kept these private

2017-10-03 04:50:44 UTC

Yeah, and?

2017-10-03 04:50:47 UTC

He would vent about these things on his channel and he had people in real life aware of his situation

2017-10-03 04:51:01 UTC

He was getting treatment for it tho

2017-10-03 04:51:05 UTC

People saw him get taped to a desk when sleeping and tormented

2017-10-03 04:51:14 UTC

Doesn't mean the treatment wasn't shit

2017-10-03 04:51:38 UTC

I've been through psychological treatment and these days it's mostly just pill-pushers and platitudes

2017-10-03 04:52:36 UTC

It's more at fault here than his charisma being able to fool law enforcement to not do a search on him

2017-10-03 04:53:00 UTC

Ok, depends on what you go to. was a doctor that prescribed you pills or helped you through therapy, because the pill pushers TECHNICALLY aren't just psychologists

2017-10-03 04:54:00 UTC

Sure, not denying there's some good eggs out there in therapy

2017-10-03 04:54:11 UTC

but there's no way of knowing for sure that Elliot's was one of them

2017-10-03 04:54:22 UTC

especially considering they aren't common this day and age

2017-10-03 04:54:37 UTC

shit... 😦

2017-10-03 04:54:40 UTC

The world is fucked

2017-10-03 04:54:46 UTC

I'm in Poland rn

2017-10-03 04:54:51 UTC

everyone is legitimately based as fuck

2017-10-03 04:54:57 UTC

It isn't just a T_D meme

2017-10-03 04:55:58 UTC

Dude, I am so jealous of Poland, and part of me really wants to immerse myself in those Polish roots of mine holy shit.

2017-10-03 04:56:11 UTC

It feels safe as fuck

2017-10-03 04:56:14 UTC

I'm in Wroclaw

2017-10-03 04:56:22 UTC

That's a city of 630,000

2017-10-03 04:56:32 UTC

I felt perfectly safe wandering the city at night

2017-10-03 04:56:36 UTC

(jet lag is a cunt)

2017-10-03 04:56:42 UTC

Then I remember the standard of living in America and living in a nice town and I content myself wtih watching from afar

2017-10-03 04:56:52 UTC

Yeah, wages seem super shitty

2017-10-03 04:56:55 UTC

lol, well I'm glad to hear it!

2017-10-03 04:57:03 UTC

Not the wages thing, that sucks

2017-10-03 04:57:16 UTC

I was scoping out big 4 auditing wages

2017-10-03 04:57:17 UTC

staying safe at night part

2017-10-03 04:57:24 UTC

starting in Poland is like, $450 a week

2017-10-03 04:57:48 UTC

It's like a full stack in the States

2017-10-03 04:58:35 UTC

@ghost5525 So, did they finally figure out if he was alive or dead? Cause I know a few hours ago he was still recovering from a heart attack and was off life support.

2017-10-03 04:58:49 UTC

He was braindead by the time he hit the hospital

2017-10-03 04:58:58 UTC

oh rip, looked at the article

2017-10-03 04:59:09 UTC

yea.... dude died the same way my mom did in May

2017-10-03 04:59:09 UTC

whelp, time to go tell a friend

2017-10-03 04:59:10 UTC

So the shit storm about 'not being dead yet' is a little

2017-10-03 04:59:14 UTC

off

2017-10-03 04:59:18 UTC

was likely down too long without oxygen

2017-10-03 04:59:27 UTC

Yeah, that'll do it.

2017-10-03 04:59:32 UTC

I wonder how much blow he did with Stevie Nicks

2017-10-03 04:59:33 UTC

brought him back, but braindead...

2017-10-03 04:59:44 UTC

And how the fuck is Keith Richards still alive

2017-10-03 05:00:00 UTC

who knows

2017-10-03 05:00:05 UTC

And how fucking long until we figure out how to reverse atherosclerosis

2017-10-03 05:00:27 UTC

/rant

2017-10-03 05:00:45 UTC

no kidding...

2017-10-03 05:01:35 UTC

my mom smoked since she was 15 up until she died - 69 ... she had PVD/PAD so bad that in the course of 5 years she was a double amp.

2017-10-03 05:01:54 UTC

A double amp?

2017-10-03 05:02:00 UTC

amputation

2017-10-03 05:02:04 UTC

Oh shit

2017-10-03 05:02:07 UTC

legs

2017-10-03 05:02:12 UTC

Yeah.

2017-10-03 05:02:15 UTC

Dude fuck that

2017-10-03 05:02:16 UTC

If h

2017-10-03 05:02:20 UTC

I was amputated

2017-10-03 05:02:21 UTC

Those are usually the first to go with poor circulation

2017-10-03 05:02:22 UTC

or crippled

2017-10-03 05:02:26 UTC

I'd exit stage right

2017-10-03 05:02:27 UTC

lmao

2017-10-03 05:02:41 UTC

I was very close to having that happen to me, but I managed to squirrel away

2017-10-03 05:02:44 UTC

at the knee.... blood flow got so terrible they couldnt even get a stint in her knee area to help the blood flow... her leg was literally dying

2017-10-03 05:02:47 UTC

I had a motorcycle accident 4 months ago

2017-10-03 05:02:57 UTC

I was helpless, in all senses of the word, for a month

2017-10-03 05:02:59 UTC

fuck that

2017-10-03 05:03:32 UTC

Yikes

2017-10-03 05:03:41 UTC

yea ....i think it broke her mentally cause she was a free person and liked going out and doing stuff and when she couldnt do it...and was confined to a wheelchair... she just gave up

2017-10-03 05:03:49 UTC

It gets to ya

2017-10-03 05:03:56 UTC

so ... PSA - if you smoke ...stop πŸ˜›

2017-10-03 05:03:57 UTC

I'd consider myself a mentally strong person

2017-10-03 05:04:06 UTC

But fuck, being bedridden wears ya down

2017-10-03 05:04:24 UTC

@ghost5525 smoke what exactly

2017-10-03 05:04:32 UTC

cigs

2017-10-03 05:04:36 UTC

eww gross

2017-10-03 05:05:29 UTC

PSA: Check out Emoxypine/Mexidol. Supposed anti-atherosclerotic

2017-10-03 05:05:37 UTC

@KZ - yea... well that and Dad died the year before... in 2016... and he was a heavy drinker too... died of Liver Cirrosis - another way i would never wanna go out... the suffering and the whole process when it fails is...depressing

2017-10-03 05:05:44 UTC

cigs are not worth it at all

2017-10-03 05:05:47 UTC

nope

2017-10-03 05:05:48 UTC

Alcohol fucks your cardiovascular system too

2017-10-03 05:06:04 UTC

My uncle died the same way

2017-10-03 05:06:08 UTC

yea tell that to the baby boomers though lol they grew up thinking it was cool and ok to do.

2017-10-03 05:06:08 UTC

LAst year

2017-10-03 05:06:11 UTC

Absolutely terrifying way to die

2017-10-03 05:06:15 UTC

>make you smell
>horrible for you
>the buzz lasts only as you're smoking
>cost money

2017-10-03 05:06:17 UTC

He was hallucinating

2017-10-03 05:06:23 UTC

lung cancer is totally cool guis!

2017-10-03 05:06:24 UTC

Literally 0 point

2017-10-03 05:06:33 UTC

at least weed gets you high

2017-10-03 05:06:35 UTC

and isn't as bad

2017-10-03 05:06:36 UTC

ikr

2017-10-03 05:06:38 UTC

Death by alcohol is absolutely terrifying

2017-10-03 05:06:54 UTC

I can't drink

2017-10-03 05:06:56 UTC

yea...you see em slip into a coma slowly...then organs start showing down because your liver cant filter out the toxins in the waste you are making...

2017-10-03 05:06:59 UTC

I make impulsive bad decisions

2017-10-03 05:06:59 UTC

cigs actually give you a buzz?

2017-10-03 05:07:04 UTC

or become super thot

2017-10-03 05:07:12 UTC

@Deleted User d0e93084 when I smoked yeah

2017-10-03 05:07:15 UTC

They calmed me

2017-10-03 05:07:20 UTC

When you first start smoking, yeah. Hell of a head rush

2017-10-03 05:07:23 UTC

The worst of it is the Alcoholic generally knows they're on their way out

2017-10-03 05:07:24 UTC

arent you a thot regularly?

2017-10-03 05:07:26 UTC

And don't stop drinking

2017-10-03 05:07:28 UTC

no

2017-10-03 05:07:36 UTC

not that bad of one

2017-10-03 05:07:52 UTC

everything i know is a lie...

2017-10-03 05:08:00 UTC

This nigga was hallucinating in the hospital telling me to hide non existing cans of beer from non existing police officers

2017-10-03 05:08:00 UTC

remember the last time i took him to the hospital he called me at work and said he woke up and it looks like a murder scene in his bed... like someone slit his throat... one of those throat varacies busted open and im suprised he didnt choke on his own blood

2017-10-03 05:08:17 UTC

@ghost5525 jesus christ

2017-10-03 05:08:52 UTC

@KZ hahahaha

2017-10-03 05:08:58 UTC

yea.... spent the next 3 weeks at the VA .... in Palative care.... having fluid drained off him, and blood /platelettes

2017-10-03 05:09:11 UTC

Did his Kidneys go too?

2017-10-03 05:09:23 UTC

Wow, and now I'm never drinking..... ever

2017-10-03 05:09:25 UTC

My uncle's kidney's shit the bed from something liver cirrhosis related

2017-10-03 05:09:34 UTC

a

2017-10-03 05:09:38 UTC

yea probably about.... 2 days before he died... he quit putting out much urine and stuff.

2017-10-03 05:09:50 UTC

did he have cancer?

2017-10-03 05:09:59 UTC

"Hepatic Encepahalopathy"

2017-10-03 05:10:04 UTC

yep....

2017-10-03 05:10:21 UTC

Alcoholic Liver Cirrosis

2017-10-03 05:10:34 UTC

We thought he was going to be fine, that the hallucinations were just the booze DT's

2017-10-03 05:10:36 UTC

my dad was bed ridden with chemo before he died

2017-10-03 05:10:38 UTC

Nope.gif

2017-10-03 05:10:57 UTC

bout a day and a half before he died though he developed this ....death rattle ... never forget it. Never wanna hear that again as long as i live.

2017-10-03 05:11:00 UTC

My dogger had to be carried everywhere before he died.

2017-10-03 05:11:01 UTC

😦

2017-10-03 05:11:05 UTC

Death rattle?

2017-10-03 05:11:07 UTC

😦

2017-10-03 05:11:09 UTC

Like rambling?

2017-10-03 05:11:14 UTC

The death rattle is the last breath tbh

2017-10-03 05:11:16 UTC

poor doggo

2017-10-03 05:11:19 UTC

Like by definition

2017-10-03 05:11:25 UTC

Never heard the term before

2017-10-03 05:11:45 UTC

Like the breath you release because of relaxing muscles.

2017-10-03 05:11:50 UTC

Death rattle

2017-10-03 05:11:50 UTC

no literally your throat makes this weird sound as if they have fluid in their throat and stuff...they can do it up to a day before death.

2017-10-03 05:11:58 UTC

@Juan Rico i had to carry my dog before he got put down

2017-10-03 05:12:04 UTC

he couldnt stand

2017-10-03 05:12:12 UTC

Yeah I feel you man.

2017-10-03 05:12:20 UTC

eh, I wasn't there when he died. I'll spend nights in the hospital with people, give them support. But if a plug is being pulled I'm outta there

2017-10-03 05:12:26 UTC

and he shit all over the stairs...not his fault tho

2017-10-03 05:12:31 UTC

mouth is usually stuck open and they are in a coma state..... body's remaining functions are on autopilot

2017-10-03 05:13:29 UTC

yea both of mine went pretty badly imho.... def not on my list of ways i wanna die.

2017-10-03 05:13:37 UTC

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