<@496999757282279434> Ok I am a brown nationalist

@[Blue] now im just waiting for our troll ass to leave or get blown the fuck out

1. Whatever begins to exist has a cause.
2. The universe began to exist.
3. Therefore the universe has a cause.
4. There cannot be an infinite regress of causes.
5. There cannot be a circular causation.
6. Therefore the universe was caused (either directly or indirectly) by an uncaused cause (i.e that had no beginning).
7. The uncaused cause must transcend space and time, and be sentient.
8. But to say a sentient being that transcends space and time brought the universe into existence, is to say that God exists.
9. Therefore God exists.

I have no problems with atheist if they want to have a mature conversation

but this is just

how? <@496999757282279434>

no

I'm trans

alright who is currently wrong?

@EzraOldenstein Godel'd

Sup

@Cpt Pipedream newbie

idk im just playing mc

Guess where my brown ethnostate is <@496999757282279434>

It’s @[Blue] @Cpt Pipedream

God made minecraft

<@496999757282279434> It's in Saudi Arabia

@[Blue] thats not the point of this argument stop trying to make it that

its not just his interpretation you goober

Saudi Arabia is basically a brown ethnostate

There is

Fuck off

>even if there is a god

No its not?

Is real

lets get one thing straight

Go home you’re fucking drunk lad

Its about a God needed for the universe to exist, whatever that entity may be is God

@[Blue] you are fucktarded

@[Blue] you know that’s not what we mean

Mortals can’t be Gods you brainlet

You, as an atheist believe we live in a finite reality. Therefore it has an end- we die, its over. But there is one thing you cannot deny. That we all had a beginning- we were created @[Blue]

<@496999757282279434> I am attracted to brown women only, I think white and black women are ugly. Am I racist for that?

Honestly i think Kavanaugh will be rejected

I mean, what is your argument against it?

@aphoticphoton nah bro

We got this

wait

we won

Collins is doing a conference at 3pm and shes literally the key and her state is deep blue

??

@[Blue] 1. Whatever begins to exist has a cause.
2. The universe began to exist.
3. Therefore the universe has a cause.
4. There cannot be an infinite regress of causes.
5. There cannot be a circular causation.
6. Therefore the universe was caused (either directly or indirectly) by an uncaused cause (i.e that had no beginning).
7. The uncaused cause must transcend space and time, and be sentient.
8. But to say a sentient being that transcends space and time brought the universe into existence, is to say that God exists.
9. Therefore God exists.

Our creator

Darkstar you need to be in the happening

Keep up

We got an agnostic on the server

WAIT

they voted YES

EZ

Bet

Link

<@496999757282279434> I don't like them, I like Arabic women

Clap clap clap

I am not from Arabia btw

I am Croatian

@[Blue] he didnt come from he is

@[Blue] Where did the universe without God come from?

@[Blue] God is an uncaused cause are you dumb

Because that would be impossible

No I am only Croatian

Cause it is

Because God isnt bound by the rules of the universe

Yes <@496999757282279434>

Can you not overcomplicate things

5 likes and i default dance

The same reason a quantum fluctuation is possible.

And if the universe existed infinitely, we would never be able to reach today

Evolution and the big bang are just theories

It is impossible to count from 0 to 1

Quantum fluctuations are solid evidence for a creative designer

Same applies to time, if there is infinite time before our current day, then there would always be another day before ours

Lets get one thing straight, though

No one wants to prove Christianity

Ban this weeb

anime is haram

@[Blue] you are very reductionist

The concept of God is illogical. So what exactly do you expect to get out of a debate about it?

If we proved Christianity, there would be no Faith.

There needs to be faith.

Nobody wants to prove it

you are ignoring the entire argument because some guy said "because it is"

You´re just close minded

<@496999757282279434> Yes a brown ethnostate

fortnite isis

Yes.

🐝 Good Morning! 🐝

You need faith for God to reach you.

Hence, the phrase ¨leap of faith¨

without that jump you will have nothing

Faith will always be an inherent part of believing in something that is immaterial, just like you have to have faith that your thoughts are even your thoughts

@[Blue] Proving God is quite simple. Let's take the atheist view for example.
1. There was a first even causing the creation of the universe.
2. This first even has no prior event.
3. This event resulted in the universe as we know today.
Now, let's take the theistic approach.
1. There was a first being.
2. This first being has no prior event.
3. This being resulted in the universe as we know today.

You cannot ask for material proof of the immaterial

All Atheists are religeous

leap of faith, like when liberals believe Kavanaugh has raped someone?

Inherently.

If only it was that simple right

just believe and youll feel it

i wish

<@496999757282279434> Well blacks for example seem to be very stupid and do dumb stuff, hence they starve. Whites have pink skin and it's kind of disgusting. Chinese people are short and rice isn't that great.

@[Blue] That still implies an original creation. This is just as logical as presuming a God.

@[Blue] Already explained why that doesnt work

White skin is attractive, tree stump

im tapping out

Infinite time cycle still means we never arrive to today

@[Blue] count from 0 to 1

you havent found a hole in anything

you know what the real argument for faith is?

Mediocre I love that your nicknames matches your level of reasoning ;).

if you really want some evidence?

<@496999757282279434> I don't care, I don't like how they look like and they seem to be stupid

lol damn\

lol

@[Blue] That's pretty much Deism in the original sense.

go and pray, try to believe

@[Blue] here is an explanation from my good friend @vril

it will take you a long time

@Thule-Gesellschaft [☩] *

imagine being a christian

but that is the only way you would understand

@stupid Do you consider yourself brown or white?

@[Blue] And your whole argument is that you do the same?

white

@GrandxSlam fuck off mutt

Lmao

i dont really think about it tbh

ezra has big gay

I have theological and Biblical reasons for believe, but you do not care about those.

why is TRS on fire

<@496999757282279434> Uerh I don't care as much about nose as long as it doesn't look like a potato

to*

@[Blue] you are asking for material evidence of the immaterial, which is impossible

¨Seeing is not always believing, sometimes you have to see to believe.¨ <:FeelsGoodMan:356316480645890048> @[Blue]

God isnt a material being

God only wants to be your friend, brother

Give him a chance

If you use deductive logic. Then you have to ask, where did X come from? It came from Y, where did Y come from, it came from Z, and if you follow that string of logic. The first thing to ever exist would have come out of nothing, and that is where logic ends, and things, doesn't make sense anymore.

If you consider yourself fair, why not.

?

Wow.

Thats,

I straight up disrespect that

Im done with you

@[Blue] im not arguing for a specific religion, im explaining that an uncaused cause is a necessity

<@496999757282279434> I don't know, never seen any

I used to be a militant atheist but at least I was open minded

Because knowledge is not equal not fucking up 😉

I mean shit

<@496999757282279434> Does Argentinians count?

@[Blue] not sure how this means anything

Okay then I have seen some

<@496999757282279434> Lol

there's deadra and adrea gods

ok

@[Blue] this is retarded and irrelevant logic, how many people believe something doesnt increase how true it is

Somnus to a certain extend the universe is not logical. And that is just a fact.

@[Blue] God can never be wrong because he defines right and wrong fam....

lol

That's how objectivity works.

The first thing to ever exist, had to come out of nothing. That doesn't make sense.

He is the only objective entity capable of defining right and wrong

g-guys am i going to hell?

@GrandxSlam youre a faggot so yeah

@[Blue] That proves how ignorant you are. Christianity would agree with that point of view, since God is in everything.

<@496999757282279434> HAH trying to get me banned wow, that's really funny.

That is the OT

That is jewish

ezra such a holy man

<@496999757282279434> hes not a national socialist, ges a social nationalist

Somnus you are making statements, do you need help making your arguments for your case? 😉

@[Blue] If God tells someone to, yes it is.

@EzraOldenstein 👌🏻

Its not cherry picking you dumb fuck

@[Blue] that isnt the point of the conversation you keep moving the goal posts

That is how objectivity works.

Jesus came and rewrote the entire bible

One half is out dated

<@496999757282279434> Aw sucks that you are trying to ban people who you disagree with. Just like the left.

<:GigaLul:363417447078035457>

You did, then I didn't see it. Let me scroll up, and come back in a min.

@Chilliam Ace these guys do the same

@Chilliam Ace And you base yours on the theoretical first creation just as I do.

I am trying to show how God is a necessity to even exist, and you bring up cases within the bible of people being executed, you literally arent arguing, youre pulling out 2012 tier internet atheist talking points

How is that any more logical?

@Kierketard W A T

oof

Wrong person

Sorry

how do we know all this cosmic knowledge?

Oh Chill be here

Woops

I’ll be damned

how do we know any of this is real

>why would being logical be a good thing

we´re reaching new levels of autism

sounds like a great reason

lol

@Chilliam Ace are you debating tonight?

<@496999757282279434> Doesn't violate the laws of Discord nice try.

@[Blue] why do you consistenly ignore the basis of the argument

"Literal nothing could not exist nor could it be the uncaused cause. Otherwise you could not get anything as it lacks potential"

Do you mind rephrasing that. so I can understand it then?

@PainSeeker5 OOOO debate night tonight! Awesome.

Why stone people?
Because in christianity there is good and evil.
Do you agree that pure evil should keep living?

You better be debating

I’ll be too

@[Blue] No Anime

alright man, if you say so

<:dynoSuccess:314691591484866560> ***♡ Gesundheit ♡#0165 was banned***

THANK GOD HE BANNED <:FeelsDabMan:356316778470834176>

Well, the holy spirit is quite literally refereed to as Logos in the LXX a few times

"Literal nothing could not exist nor could it be the uncaused cause."
besides god

So, yeah

**That was Epic**

It is

Booo i wanted a response

"hehe im just baiting"

b

great stuff banning those who you disagree with

press s to spit

<@496999757282279434> BTW someone got banned yesterday for doing what you're doing. So watch out.

fucking hell this shit always happens

s

@RomanEmpire Energy can neither be destroyed or created as we know it. It merely changes state. That requires, at some point, a first creation of energy for the potential of future kinetic and potential energies.

@GrandxSlam you really cant fucking read can you

Oh he banned

Good

@GrandxSlam Wrong.

youre beyond retarded

ban this ban that

i see is the bans

**At some point**, there **must** be a first creation of energy by a first being or event.

<@496999757282279434> You're beyond dumb. Next time actually try going after people's arguments.

@GrandxSlam I’m a gay jew, and I didn’t get banned. Because I don’t troll or bait people to male them angry.

"cant you guys see im just baiting" oh golly wow i totally just banned him for disagreeing not being a low quality troll @GrandxSlam

Kierke, isn't that exact what I am saying, or?

please learn how to read, fucktard

@ThatDisagree lol this server just trolls 24/7

ezra why are you mad lol

youre lucky i havent banned you yet, anyone else who acts like this would be banned for trolling, but youre actually just as retarded as you sound @GrandxSlam

oh am i?

<@496999757282279434> No, I said you'll be banned for threatening people.

this entire server fucking shitpost and trolls each other

👌🏻

Yes, I sincerely believe that youre just retarded, and you arent trolling

<@496999757282279434> OOF how much weed did you smoke?

so butthurt because some fucking person hopped on with a diff opinion, you get pissed off and call it a troll

it's how it works