I support arresting people for actions to make degeneracy legal though, not just their personal opinions.

you guys think people will immediately become 1488, it takes a process

Special is being disingenuous ~ he knows we already have secret police, every nation does. But he hates the idea of actually Nationalists having that power. So sad.

So like someone who thinks fags are ok is fine, as long as they don't take physical action to make it legal by lobbying or something.

Since when was Nationalism mutually exclusive to any polit side tbh

you need to slowly show them

@GrandxSlam no one thinks this way

Wtf

why go against civnationalism

the left still has nationalism

@GrandxSlam No one thinks this way.

My god you're a good.

there's a difference between someone who disagrees with state and someone who actually takes actions against the state

civnat is left nationalism

it's a much better way to bring people in

is mass genocide against the discord tos

There is literally no political solution dingus

Like

You have to wait for the cummies tap to switch off

@Insomniac Yes a Civic Nationalism that is Anti-White and headed for full on Civic-Socialism.

Talking with Vril just makes me realize that Mord is correct

Vril legit say we should gradually start with ethnostate before major changes are enacted

it's not left wing

Once the government teet can no longer support people or their lifestyle choices

it's easier to bring on the masses and rally them

its liberal nationalism

which in america

ugh fuck you Trump

lower the interest rates

=left nationalism

@Outboarduniform I mean you just disagree with me politically, that doesn't make me any less clever though.

basically

@Outboarduniform Wow again hiding behind things that have NOTHING to do with what we're talking about.

Jesus Christ

left nationalism is an oxymoron

The past week, the average 30-year fixed mortgage rate increased from 4.61% to 4.66%, the highest level since May 2011.

since libs are considered on the left

left itself hates it's own nation, how can they be nationalist?

Thats where you're wrong kiddo @Hæþen

housing hasn't been this unaffordable since the bubble in 08

What is Soviet Nationalism?

Someone was right about Prestigious. Some of the people in it are really high off their own supply.

@Métropolice ok, libertarian-leninist here

@Outboarduniform

idk if this is a bubble though, there's no inventory

It's a good debate though, how much control should a state have over cracking down on degeneracy?

Now thats just disgusting @Hæþen

"degeneracy" is subjective

?

how many of you pay rent?

Me

who cares about the state

Aye

https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1913/03a.htm

to a christian moralist, watching porn is degeneracy

read this

It is the state's responsibility to make sure it's nation's people are producing families and are building better communities.

Pay rent? What am I? A legal adult?

Uh

Yes?

Answer is no

it's different for you UK posters

Damn

you guys literally can't afford a home

@GrandxSlam Watching porn is terrible for people

technically all traditionalists should agree that cracking down on liberal activism is a good idea

anime is degenerate

Not even from a religious standpoint.

Axtually

porn is degenerate

*moves to Livingston*

L

You can get cheap homes in my area

Bad area tho

"pornography" literally means "whore pictures"

not just watching it, but the industry itself

@GrandxSlam Google erectile dysfunction is on the rise and come back to me. As well as it turns people into numales.

is degenerate as fuck

well why let the govt have that much power over the individual

@Insomniac Both ;p

@GrandxSlam because it’s right

the pornography industry is heavily intertwined with human trafficking and narcotics

there is no redeeming factor in it

>^)

at all

average home price in Brighton, MI is $315K atm

@GrandxSlam Because we've had freedoms since the 60s, and people have used it to abuse themselves and others.

Not too bad

and it's just getting worse.

But brighton is a shithole

Many people are becoming too stupid to use their own freedoms.

@thrill_house Macomb County based county suck it <:FeelsDabMan:356316778470834176>

not our brighton

Properly that is.

Macomb County is too far away from everything

@Chilliam Ace yeah, but i assume when saying porn isnt he was purely speaking of watching it, so i wanted to push towards looking at the industry itself, as well/

Eh

Maybe

@Insomniac understandable.