So they're all out, meaning the retailers can increase the bar a bit

Well, screw that

Buy it when the heat is over

Cause they can do that without losing potential customers

when stocks are full

Naturally, that brings it dangerously close to a 1060

from waht I can find

But a 1060 is pretty much a 980, which sometimes dips down to 290 dollar price point

the 1060>480>470

right now

but the total TFLOPs is 480>470>1060

so the performance of AMD GPUs will increase over time

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This is our situation over here

the same in the UK

The 980 is naturally the most consistent of the bunch

But who knows what Nvidia will do

gtx 1060

Man, 970s are so cheap

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That's about 280 bucks average

Because it has 500 MB "fake" memory remember?

With lows, hitting about 260 bucks

so its 3.5 GB

That doesn't affect real time performance, though

Thing with the 970 is that it overclocks very well

it does if you attempt to access the last 0.5 gb

I was unclear with that, I meant actual performance index

Ah.

It sits somewhere near the 480 in DX11 games

Sometimes being faster

And since you can clock it up to a 980 terms of pure speed, it's definitely an attractive option now

Presumably, the 480 is better optimized for future DX12 games though

It is

But the thing is

Nvidia's DX12 optimizations haven't been very impressive

I dont give a shit about new games that very much

If it can handle the games I already have well

My mobile lifestyle precludes me to having an APU-based m-ITX build though

You have to remember all games up until now is DX11 based

correct

@Katahane Time to get one of those Chink docks

Or the Razer dock ™

m-ITX with scorpio APU

APU's are comfy though

With DX12 MultiGPU (if used) I can just assume they will use influence to keep SLI etc standard API being used

You could, if the APU was good enough, use the APUs extra GPU juice to boost the card a bit

or am I out of my mind now ._.

I'm one of those guys that's waiting on what Zen has to offer in terms of APUs

Must be better than Bulldozer/Excavator cores

(and other CPUs in general)

Well

I think many are in this boat

Cause upgrading from an Intel platform to another Intel platform doesn't really give alot of performance boost

Alot of people are still sitting on Sandy Bridge rigs

I looked at Intel performance gains

minimal

It was so nice to just buy old server CPUs when they got dumped

And get the most awesome H.265 encoding speed ever

It doesn't, since Intel's been focusing the majority of their R&D on ***muh optimization***

for great value

so, power efficiency

But Intel has decreased nm, consumption haven't they

I believe so

I'd also recommend AMD APU's in a heartbeat for HTPC builds though*

Lappies get most of the performance gains of Intel iterations

Yeah, can just see this comfy mini-ITX with AMD APU

But the desktop side is very bleak, and only AMD can bring a real gamechanger

But would be much more sweet with Zen/Polaris APU

If they don't, we'll sit on the same performance bubble for the next decade or so

yep

What I hope for

Is that we change architecture, and like with mobile CPUs, sees a whole bunch of companies competing

Intel did it right, so they deserve the money too

can you really compain and say hey please take back your archievements?

Well

Intel gave rise to the cheap Chink tablets

and be slower like AMD

Is to design a revolutionary mechanical exoskeleton using a networked system of electrostatic coupling to be more efficient than ever before, at a much lighter weight?

or is that just me

With their attempt to buy into the market

heh

They failed though

Dropped the Atoms

It doesn't matter for us

I really wanted a chink developer board with Atom

they sold $20 CPUs with normal arch

b..but ARM CPUs anon

Would make for a sweet dev board

We still got those 90 bucks tablets that are way more powerful than they have the right to be

And the compute sticks

I've got one, an Orange Pi PC powered with shark sdcard

NUC's, wew

Going for 60 bucks or something atm, I think

It's nice and all, bot Cortex-A7 quad-core with 1.2GHz clock running armhf

It's far from a regular desktop CPU in many ways

That's why you get a compute stick

It was $20 though

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/MEEGOPAD-T02-Activated-Mini-PC-TV-stick-Quad-Core-Intel-Atom-Z3735F-Windows-8-1-OS/32338719620.html?ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_8,searchweb201602_4_10057_10056_10055_10037_10049_10033_10059_10032_10058_10017_10060_10061_10062_10063_412,searchweb201603_1&btsid=961a9746-56fd-4737-bec2-373caec8e889

pretty cheap for things like these

well, this is /csg/

compute stick?

lol

yeah, NUC's

Board

BOARD

Well, whatever you call em

I like to call em sticks

not HDMI shit

sticks

I'd rather take something I can use a cable with

but then again even if the CPU costs $20

this will cost with mobo, RAM, PSU etc

A cable, huh?

What for?

HDMI cable

I mean, you can always get an adapter

so as it actually fits behind my TV

Man, I'm famished. Should I make ramen like the chink I am or get a cheap macdonalds burger like the western chinks my family is?

Female to female

which is mounted to the wall?

and if it plug in a sitck

Hrm

I'd make a hol in the wall for it to fit?

Modern HDMI placements are pointed towards the sides, though

But yeah, adapters

Pretty cheap

Maybe I can buy a female HDMI to male HDMI cable though

Yeah, probably

You should be able to

chinks might sell that, not seen them here

chinks sell everything

$100 is pretty expensive though

$20 much more appealing /csg/ tier

But yeah a desktop CPU costs

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/HDMI-Female-to-Female-F-F-Coupler-Extender-Adapter-Extension-Connector-for-HDTV-HDCP-1080P/2042437728.html?ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_8,searchweb201602_4_10057_10056_10055_10037_10049_10033_10059_10032_10058_10017_10060_10061_10062_10063_412,searchweb201603_1&btsid=782135a1-ed0a-48d3-8f6c-58165fbdbbe0

I found what I was looking for too

It's only 60 bucks

100 is err

Oh

It's 20 bucks for an "activated" copy of Windows 10

fuck that

enjoy the botnet

Not that anyone would run Windows on something like this, anyway

On a tablet, that would be a different thing

* CPU: Intel Z8300, 4cores, 1.84GHz, 64bit
* GPU: Intel HD Graphics
* 2GB RAM
* 32GB eMMC ROM
* Windows 10
* USB 3.0 * 1 + USB 2.0 * 3
* Card reader: TF Card
* Supports the latest HEVC (H.265) decoding
* Support 4K*2K Super HD video playback
* WiFi: IEEE 802.11b/g/n, the fastest wireless internet
* Bluetooth V4.0 http://www.inexbox.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/T10%E4%BA%A7%E5%93%81%E5%9B%BE-6.png

Cause Linux touchscreen drivers are shit

this is the shit I was thinking of

no stick

What's the advantage of that, though?

intel inside ™

With a stick, you can bring it wherever you want

I don't do that

even for someone as mobile as me, I bring my elite 130

I guess it has the main advantage of an ethernet slot

But that's achievable with an USB adapter

ethernet slot is necessary

not on the sticks

USB 3.0 is sweet

Guys, clarify this for me

How much is that box, anyway?

Oh kek

120 bucks

http://www.gearbest.com/tv-box-mini-pc/pp_376409.html?wid=21

is there any real-world performance decrease when using an adapter compared to a native PCI-e slot for an ethernet card?

could be cheaper with 2 GB less RAM, etc

It should be slightly slower

it has windows 10 too

If you're running 100 and upwards, you should be hitting caps

if they did it legit, this shit costs money

Especially with a 2.0 adapter

100 usd is a lot for chink shit item

correct

Otherwise, no

If you have like 30/30 or something really low, there should be no difference

If you have a decent adapter, that is

Oh you remember that

well, my shitty college wifi is about 5/5

I can upgrade to 200/200 though, but it costs 10 euros more each month

That could be worth it

But what's 100/100?

my plan costs 42 euros a month btw

30/30

Ok, that's alot

yeah they are faggots

for putting 30/30 this much, and a little more for 200/200

but it works

people pick less

I pay 30 bucks for my 200/100

free college wifi is 5/5

at least it's free

ever heard of monopoly in miles range?

And I'm not really in a cheap place, but it's decent

@Dietrich Sure have

Very common amongst the Burgers, UKs, Aussies, Canadians

etc etc

Well, it's been a nice time talking to both of you.

Cheers, catch you guys later.

Lates

bai

If I move a bit, some 27 km I could buy internet from Bahnhof AB instead

Bahnhof's pretty good

You get free VPN, as well

And they've refused to hand over data for ages now, despite governmental pressure

200/20 for same price as 30/30

so they are at least better in price

they also give you some shitty restricted .st domain @Aerione

I wish they had it more open (DNS change), could be nice to have

oh and they did host wikileaks or something?

I think so

The server's located in a nuke-proof mountain bunker

Somewhere in northern Sweden, I believe

http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2010/08/30/wikileaks-servers-move-to-underground-nuclear-bunker/#50c98a2ad5b2

Oh, it's in Stockholm

well a great concern for many people is that authorities or unknown 3rd parties access their confidential material

so they need to have a secure location where that would not happen

gave the rise to high security datacenters

to avoid getting contents stolen/spied on etc

https://www.cyberbunker.com/web/shredder.php

https://youtu.be/eSOkFWretQE

Review of OPi PC: board can run 100% CPU load with heatsinks 10/10 would buy over RPi cuz chinks are cheaper than britbongs

How's the distro compatibility?

legacy kernel works http://www.armbian.com/orange-pi-pc/ they are mainlining it soon tm

I use osmc on my pi

Damn, I had to scroll so far back I already forgot moat of the conversation. Hey, do you guys know if I got like a Windows tablet if I could use it as a touchscreen monitor for my pc?

As for video drivers on OPi

I've played back some video in mpv, worked nice

I meant for things like kodi

http://linux-sunxi.org/Cedrus

Cedrus is a project intended for fully 100% libre and open source software, for using the hardware accelerated video decoding/encoding engine found in sunxi devices. Replacing the proprietary library that has a long history of license ambiguity issues and in certain cases even (L)GPL violations.

i can say that we know a way to run it perfectly with Kodi

But it's not something I would recommend

Personally, I'm against using any of these in that manner

HTPC is required

>HTPC is required
I've had no problem with my Pi when it's connected to ethernet

streams everything p well

I'm sure it can do a well enough job and all, but I've got some special requirements

autism*

I do motion interpolation partly in mpv etc which high quality OpenGL settings

wooow

it's ok we're all autistic here

Comfy doesn't know the joy of high framer ate video.

I one man band <#203654341330993163>

I use that kawaii thing on my PC

for animu

kawaii codec pack on high

madVR?

kek

yeah madVR is part ofit

Madvr does pretty well when paired with some other stuff.