>transparent amp

oh baby

yeah, measurably so

trivial to take a scope and put a probe on the output, a probe on the input, and compare

@Obolon Prime can't wait

also: LT1010 one of my new fave ICs

pair of 9v batteries, active virtual ground circuit so i get a real deal +-9v rails instead of like +8.5v-9.5v or something, 5532 -> LT1010, i now have an amp that will perform flawlessly within the range of human hearing, and with 150mA max output current per channel, so it'll drive any headphone you like or some small speakers

BUF634 is nice too and with the 250mA output current but there's no reason for that in a headphone amp

o shit you do amp design

ye

i kinda want to get into it

currently building a beta 22

it's a lot easier than you mighr expect

most electronics are, just learn to break down what you want into blocks

and learn how to connect the blocks

my father builds amps n shit so i could probably learn from him

amps especially are easy since there's so much special purpose "they already did it perfect for you" components out there

discrete amps are hard but there's no reason for discrete amps unless you're trying to build amps for some insane loudspeaker system

and even then it's only hard in that you have to do math more complex than ohm's law

discrete looks cooler so it attracts sick audiophile cash B^)

more components = better sound

fact

just slap a tube in it with all pins connect to gnd

lol

audiophiles eat that shit up

guys remember to use silver cables

put a orange led pwm'd really dim under it

they'll think it's a real tube amp

wasnt there a chink tube amp that literally did that?

several

kek

most of them just use the tube as a preamp stage

just to add that tube noise to the signal

i saw a soundbar with a tube in it

i was like wtf

soundbars are aids anyway

ye

http://uncrate.com/p/2013/01/samsung-vacuum-tube-soundbar-xl.jpg

"hey what if we sold just the crappy tv speaker by itself, but for like $200"

http://www.avsforum.com/photopost/data/2232061/5/54/5481bcc5_DSC09795.png

lmao

thats soundbars

why

because rich people are stupid and will buy stupid shit

i still find it funny that grado sells a cmoy for like 10 times the price

ye

most headphone amps over like $50 are just audiophool markup

all dacs aside from special purpose data aquisition or audio production equipment over $30 are audiophool markup

idk you get really nice cases

hahaha

a "measurably 100% mathematicall proveably perfectly recreates every sound a human can hear" dac is like $25 BOM to make a one-off, can be made for under $10/pop if you're buying in a "i am selling these to the public" scale

and even that's overkill because go ahead, try and find a song, audiobook, tv show, anything like that, with a dynamic range over 70dB, and also consider that 120dB dynamic range means that in a signal using the full dynamic range, if you can hear the quietest part of it, the loudest part of it will literally destroy your ears

I ended up buying the kz zs5, let's see what they're worth

yea ive ordered a pair

cool

i kinda want a pair to fuck with

yeah the whole dynamic range thing is funny

with silver cables since it wasn't that much more, and I had a coupon anyway

you know what's _really_ funny

i always laugh when vinyl autists argue that vinyl has a superior dynamic range

audiophool capacitors

omg vinyl

>vinyl >dynamic range superior to fkn anything

goddamn even a good quality compact cassette destroys vinyl there :v

half of it is the fucking noise floor

I actually bought my mother a turntable the other day

also >audiophiles think they can hear switching noise from smps in their equipment and linear supplies "sound better"

what is a lowpass filter

She was really happy

i like vinyl on an aesthetic level

vinyl is nothing more than a collectors item imo

im not gonna pretend it _sounds_ better lol

What's the deal with the QCY Q29 earphones?

apple meme

meme true wireless shit

http://the-gadgeteer.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/qcy-q29earbuds_17.jpg

>stealth mini body such as the music wizard in hiding your ears

Fuck even the French translation on the same page is better

How should I add my old headset mic to these

These are supposedly good aren't they?

I was thinking about gluing mini magnets to headphones and headset mic

I have the non Evo model I think

I ordered the Evo model

superlux hd 662 evo

681b is the one I have actually

Didn't know about the Evo one back then

The magnet thing could work I guess

662 evo are good

esp if you do frans' mods

i havent actually used the evo

super good for the budget

i just wish the headband was larger

like in a vertical way

not enough space for my fat head

are they that much better than the normal 662?

never used the 662

arent they just a sealed 681?

i kinda wanna give the 562 a go too

they seem to be

heard good stuff about the 562

iirc different driver though

re: 662

Oh, talking about headphones, I've been using the sound intone cx-05 for quite some time now

those look pretty aids

http://img.dxcdn.com/productimages/sku_452429_2.jpg

i still can't get over that koss still makes the pro-4aa

I really wanted to love them, but they're too painful

and it's only like $70

Other than that they're pretty amazing

pro4aa sound like shit tho

disagree

but then i also genuinely enjoy my SE-20A

they sound nasaly as fuck

@HEKTIK Where the HD681 EVO is dark and bassy sounding with subdued highs the HD662-EVO has deep bass, non recessed mids (a bit forward sounding) and the right amount of treble.

objectively they are inferior to a lot of cheaper headphones if you want transparent

http://diyah.boards.net/thread/1169/superlux-hd662-evo

but i dont always want transparent

though theyre such an old headphone that there may have just been some shitty revisions

what is the difference with closed and semi-closed models? which one I should use in gaming?

since the pair i tried werent new

good headphones barely even _tried_ to exist until like the late 90s tbh

nah there are a few early orthos that arent bad

a few

and were ungodly expensive then and still are

"normie" headphones that didn't sound like complete crap i guess i should say

ss-100 arent that expensive now

audio enthusiast gear has been around since recorded music started

@Make open

semi open is pretty much just open @Make

just with a bit more restriction

Ok why open is better @Windatica ?

better sound stage

@Make do you game in a quiet space

less backwave dampening needed

if so open generally gives a "wider soundstage", or more apparent separation between the channels, making for better directional audio

which is good for game

closed blocks out noise from outside and also keeps other people from hearing whatever you are

also on the dac thing earlier >mfw audiophiles spend $500 on a usb dac but scoff at $100 pcie sound cards with dsp features to actually justify the price tag with

tbh internal sound cards can be pretty fucky

dsp is fucking cool though

i need to learn that shit

can, the Big Names are generally pretty solid though

what superlux I should instead take instead of 662 evo? If I use them as headset for gaming and listening to music

one of the open ones if your space is quiet

668b/681

with velour pads

they both image well

681 i can confirm is an excellent headphone, using one rn

668b if you want a midbass hump

681 if you dont

I still need to order the velour pads

681 is a bit more comfy imo since no wing design

slap on some k240 velours and be done

I'd back that recommendation

I'm living in apartment alone so it's quiet

thing i kinda wanna try after seeing those audeze iems:

ksc75 iem mod

lol

will take Hard Math

but could be cool, IEMs with big drivers are cool

the audeze isines are apparently pretty good

is there difference between hd 681 and evo?

tho they fit wonky

i want to try a pair

https://www.jimms.fi/fi/Product/Show/97085/297902/superlux-hd681-evo-bk-stereokuulokkeet-musta

yes @Make

681 EVO is worse

quite muddy

oh

even just a 12mm-16mm driver in an iem instead of an 8mm driver makes a world of difference for the money

I thought it would be better because new model

lol

but a 45mm driver? hh

newer =/= better

https://www.jimms.fi/fi/Product/Show/91446/218865/superlux-hd681-stereokuulokkeet

hd 681 is even cheaper

only 20€

so these are similar to hd 662 evo but just open model?

not quite

they sound very different

much flatter fr curve

^

sealed cans tend to have a bump in bass through midbass, open cans tend to have a hump in the highs if anything

always exceptions but the general trend for cheap headphones is that

@HEKTIK Do you know which way round the connectors on the ZS5/ZS3 cables are meant to go?

There's nothing stopping me connecting them either way

And what about the 681b

is flat bad thing?

not necessarily

it is if you enjoy music

8)

it's preference

I don't know anything about headphones

flat is more accurate

flat headphones are listening to music the way the audio engineer wanted you to hear it

basically the fr curve is the amplitude of signals over frequency, so if it's flat then you have consistent amplitude across more frequencies

anything else is what the musician would have wanted you to hear it

a bump means some frequency ranges are gonna be louder than others

some genres take an expectation of a big bump in bass into account when producing, hip hop and edm especially

others expect to be listened on a system with a more of a v-shaped curve, metal and such

but they still monitor it all on systems as flat as possible, and they don't go so far with that as to _require_ you to use a system with a certain type of fr curve for it to sound good

after all most people don't have a "these are my rap headphones, these are my bluegrass headphones, these ones for jazz", they have a pair of shitty walmart iems and some shitty car speakers drowned out with road noise

Tried the ZS5s on for the second time. Much less of a pain to get in once you bend the curve of the piece of metal in the wire in place.

I'm definitely one to hate on nigga bass but the bass in these might just be one notch below my liking. That said, the bass is clean, not muddy at all.

A lot better than the ATEs

cancelled my order on 662 evo

whys that

i have that and other chink headphones

i recommend something else

Look at the inside of the connector @transience

There should be a curved edge that matches with the connector

Found it, thanks

@AlbumONLY not ordering them from chinkland I heard they are not good for gaming and I need open models

i was gonna recommend some open headphones from chinkland

Not ordering what?

that are realy quite good

headphones

Oh the 662

i think the ISKs or takstars are prettttttty dam good

and comfortable

Yeah they are

681/668b just image better so they're better for gaming

yea they arent bad

wait i cant rember what i have but.. somethin EVO

its my sisters not mine but they sound not bad too

wagged work today :^) is that what you guys say

Cheeky

@Make Philips SHP9500, Sennheiser 558/559, Audio Technica ATH-AD700X decent entry level non-chink open headphones

681 images better than the 9500 and 558/598

i only buy for the musics but the gaming is secondary

maybe thats why i suck at counterstrike!! its the headphones

Kek

I just use monks for Cs

realy ? iems?

oh theyt arent even iems

(((iems)))

they're earbuds?

Yea

i am not familiar with monks

should i get some for fun

HMmmmm

they're crazy open

i can imagine how they'd be good for gayming

wow cool

do they sound good for musics?

Audio for vidya doesn't mean a lot imo

So I just use the monks since they're so pleb tier

i often play cs with no sound anyway

well i listen to music and play a shotgun hide behind the walls