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2018-01-13 02:52:22 UTC

**The Vicious Nature of
Civil War II**

2018-01-13 02:52:28 UTC

*"The great questions of the day will be decided not by speeches and majority votes
... but by iron and blood." - Otto von Bismark.*

2018-01-13 02:52:35 UTC

What will Civil War II actually be like? Consider these patterns that wars usually follow: First, the more dissimilar the combatants are in race, nationality, religion, language and culture the more vicious the fighting usually is, America's wars of aggression against the Indians involved two sides that were completely dissimilar, and the results were hideous tortures and genocide. On the other hand, our first civil war, while extremely violent, was one of the least vicious wars ever fought due to the lack of these stated differences.

2018-01-13 02:52:44 UTC

Civil War II will clearly be more like the Indian wars than our first civil war because wars fought by dissimilar armies inevitably produce excesses. In Civil War I, torture of prisoners and mutilation of the dead were rare. In the Indian wars and again in Vietnam, another war with dissimilar armies, such practices were employed by the fighters of both sides, sometimes even as a form of recreation.

2018-01-13 02:53:15 UTC

Civil War II will degenerate into premeditated and systematic mass slaughter because other factors will also fuel its frenzy. Unlike Civil War I, but like the wars against the Indians, one of the goals will be to drive others from the lands wherein they reside, which guarantees fanatical resistance and necessitates measures sufficient to the objective.

2018-01-13 02:53:21 UTC

This presence of civilians in battle zones will certainly increase the fury of Civil War II. Many will be killed accidentally, others on purpose, leading to reprisals, which will in turn lead to counter reprisals. In Civil War I, some of the most vicious fighting occurred in the border states with mixed populations where irregular bands like Quantrill's Raiders sprang up.

2018-01-13 02:53:31 UTC

In Civil War I, almost all the combatants were members of the regular military. In Civil War II, many civilians, including women and children, will fight as guerrillas which will lead to their mass elimination on the grounds that they're combatants, or at least military assets, exactly as happened in My Lai, Vietnam. In Civil War II, as in Yugoslavia, many combatants will join specifically to avenge the murder of their families. I leave to your imagination the fate of captives in the hands of such warriors.

2018-01-13 02:53:41 UTC

I was once asked if any of the Geneva Conventions were applied to prisoners my paratrooper unit took in Vietnam. I answered that rule 556 was generally applied, 556, I pointed out, is the caliber of the M16 assault rifle. The application was generally to the head. Such was war in the rock 'n' roll slaughterhouse, and so it shall be when Civil War II sweeps imperial America.

2018-01-13 02:55:19 UTC

Men who have served in regular military organizations have a misconception that nonprofessionals are inherently inferior to regular military formations. This misconception is shared by the general public and the media who constantly use such adjectives as ragtag and disorganized when referring to guerrillas. Parade ground spit and polish are not to be confused with battlefield competence. Guerrillas, militias, and even mobs can, and often do, defeat regular armies when the circumstances are right, as was often the case in our own revolution against the British Empire.

2018-01-13 02:55:27 UTC

Regular military organizations are oriented towards fighting other regular military organizations in stand-up battles, not guerrillas (or regular armies using guerrilla tactics) as testified to by our victory in Desert Storm, and our defeat by the Vietnamese. Our military has numerous large formations equipped with heavy weapons, but very few smaller Special Forces-type units, which are pound for pound far superior at engaging guerrillas.

2018-01-13 02:55:34 UTC

This inappropriate orientation of our military will continue just as it did all during Vietnam even when it was abundantly clear that it was a formula for certain disaster. There are reasons for this. Our military is a willing captive of our defense industry. As Country Joe and the Fish pointed out at Woodstock: "There's plenty of money to be made, supplying the Army with the tools of the trade."

2018-01-13 02:55:51 UTC

And that money is clearly in capital intensive, big-ticket items like stealth bombers, aircraft carriers, nuclear submarines, Patriot missiles, and Star Wars gadgets, all of which have little or no utility in counterinsurgency.

2018-01-13 02:55:58 UTC

To be fair, these items are required to counter ongoing foreign threats like Iraq and Russia, but there are deeper rasons that will continue to direct our military resources to these big ticket items all out of proportion to their actual need. First, many of our top military brass are simply corrupt. They go straight from retirement to the payoff of consulting for defense contractors in a form of institutionalized bribery.

2018-01-13 02:56:06 UTC

Second, without huge formations to order about, there is little for our abundance of overweight, over-age generals to do. General Schwarzkopf and his staff were just the sort of techno-managers needed in Desert Storm, but such individuals are usually worse than useless in the dispersed, small unit actions that characterize guerrilla warfare, where active and independent fighting leaders, not managers, are required.

2018-01-13 02:56:11 UTC

It is clear that the federal military will embark on Civil War II with inappropriate organization and weapons. When the only tool you have is a sledge hammer, all about begins to look in dire need of smashing. The rebel guerrillas and militias on the other hand, will certainly have a more flexible and decentralized structure bordering on chaos. The Afghan resistance groups, for instance, never united against the Russians, but fought them to a standstill nevertheless.

2018-01-13 02:56:17 UTC

Guerrilla leaders will actually lead their troops, and those not killed will, unlike regular officers, be able to employ lessons learned in future actions. Rebel officers will achieve their positions based on success in actual battle, not on their ability to stay awake during staff meetings or meet the latest racial quota.

2018-01-13 02:56:26 UTC

Rebel soldiers will be volunteers who will not suffer their lives being thrown away in pointless operations like American regulars in Vietnam were, thus, on the whole, increasing the efficiency of rebel operations. Federal soldiers, on the other hand, will increasingly be politicized officers and conscripts who will have ample opportunities to desert or otherwise shirk their duty.

2018-01-13 02:56:46 UTC

The federal military will be ensnared in several dilemmas: If they use volunteers, they won't have sufficient manpower. If they use draftees, they'll wind up with hordes of disgruntled shirkers just as in Vietnam.

2018-01-13 02:56:57 UTC

If they resort to heavy weapons of mass destruction, they'll kill civilians and swell rebel ranks with dedicated fanatics just as they did in Vietnam. If they don't employ their heavy weapons, they'll be giving up one of their few military advantages and thereby increase federal casualties, lowering federal morale. If the federal forces consolidate their formations in large easily-defended firebases, they'll forfeit vast areas to the control of the rebels just as we Americans did in Vietnam. If the federal government disperses its forces, they will be vulnerable to concentrated rebel attacs.

2018-01-13 02:57:03 UTC

If the federal government keeps its units integrated, they'll have firefights within their own ranks. If they use segregated units, they'll be admitting that the cause they're fighting for is a fraud.

2018-01-13 02:57:09 UTC

**The Dynamics of Counterinsurgency**

2018-01-13 02:57:37 UTC

The classic political means of ending any guerrilla uprising is a co-option of the rebel base of support - instituting reforms that extent legal rights and economic opportunities to the rebellious people, at least to the extent that they cease supporting the guerrillas, who are then defeated in detail, hunted down one band after another.

2018-01-13 02:57:46 UTC

When co-option is not offered or is rejected, usually only the classic military tool of genocide of the rebellious people remains, or at least the number of them sufficient that the survivors are terrorized into submission.

2018-01-13 02:57:56 UTC

In our war for Independence, the arrogant establishment of the British Empire refused to co-opt the American colonists, but lacked the resolve to embark upon a campaign of genocide. They committed the classic error of thinking that professional soldiers would easily defeat so-called ragtag militias and lightly-armed guerrillas. The limeys wound up playing tag in the boondocks, much as we Americans did in Vietnam.

2018-01-13 02:58:02 UTC

We Americans made no such error in dealing with the Indians, who could not have been co-opted in any case due to vast cultural differences. The Indians were never directly defeated militarily. They were ethnically cleansed until they absolutely ceased all military activity.

2018-01-13 02:58:10 UTC

In Civil War I, the Confederates accepted their conventional military defeat only because they were aware that their co-option and correct treatment were assured. Had that not been the case, they would have fought on as guerrillas.

2018-01-13 02:58:15 UTC

It is a stark fact that most ethnically-based revolutions can be crushed only by ethnic cleansing or similar butchery, and that's exactly how most such rebellions are in fact crushed. It is also a historic fact that the more different the two sides perceive each other, the more often the tool of genocide is employed. As for co-option. Civil War II will begin precisely because co-option is being scornfully rejected as "cultural genocide," and it will proceed directly to ethnic cleansing for the same reason.

2018-01-13 02:58:24 UTC

**Looting**

2018-01-13 02:58:32 UTC

*"People who are vigorous and brutal often find war enjoyable, provided that it is a
victorious war and that there is not too much interference with rape and plunder." -
Bertrand Russell*

2018-01-13 02:58:38 UTC

Another factor will make Civil War II self-propelled, at least in its early stages, and that is looting. This was the pattern in Yugoslavia where Serb militias systematically pillaged entire villages, and then burnt down the houses so the victims would have nothing to return to. Stolen items like television sets were loaded into stolen cars and driven away. A year's salary could be gotten in a few minutes with an AK47, not to mention that old military pastime of rape.

2018-01-13 02:58:45 UTC

Gangs and militias will control lucrative black markets and protection rackets, giving them much incentive to reject peace. If Civil War II breaks out during a severe economic downturn, which is almost certain, many unemployed men will find it a dramatic improvement in their lives.

2018-01-13 02:59:00 UTC

America is awash in unemployed young men who are economically useless due to their lack of capital and marketable skills. While utterly useless in the economic sense, they are definitely assets in the military equation, because vigorous, motivated, and aggressive young males are exactly what are needed in infantry combat. This studied neglect of economically useless young males will continue because the economic establishment considers any investment in them a drain on their precious corporate profits, and they import H-1B non-immigrant foreigners rather than invest in young Americans. Ironic as it may seem, the establishment is actively assembling the very army that will cut their throats. But it won't be merely for worldly gain or revenge that these young men will fight to their deaths in Civil War II. It will be for something noble, for something basic to higher human nature, no matter how perversely manifested. They will be self-motivated by a sense of purpose, a sense of purpose that is now entirely absent from their dismal and aimless lives.

2018-01-13 02:59:07 UTC

These young males of all races have grievances, real grievances, and lots of them. They also have guns, real guns, and lots of them. As the ancient Chinese curse goes, "May you live in interesting times!" Well, I fully expect that the sole virtue of the multiethnic American Empire will be a decided absence of boredom.

2018-01-13 02:59:21 UTC

**Economic Collapse**

2018-01-13 02:59:29 UTC

Since undemocratic and multiethnic empires are always instable, they often topple into internal or external war when they encounter some additional source of instability. Certainly in the case of Mexico and probably America as well, that shock will be economic. If, or rather when, America undergoes a severe economic slump on the scale of the Great Depression of the 1930s, the establishment may make the mistake of cutting off various welfare and unemployment benefits in order to sustain its own luxurious life-style. This tragic miscalculation could well provoke rioting in every major city that will be impossible to stop prior to its exploding into all-out race war all across America. How many will die in Civil War II? In 1860 the population of the United States was just over 31 million. The combined battle deaths of the Union and Confederate Armies in Civil War I were approximately 215,000 (World Almanac and Book of Facts, 1990, p. 792). The U.S. Census Bureau projected population for 2050 is 393,000,000. Projecting from these figures gives 2.678.000 battle dead for Civil War II. This figure should be regarded as a baseline minimum because Civil War I's casualties were largely reserved for military personnel. Unhappily, such will not be the case with our next civil war.

2018-01-13 03:00:26 UTC

Civil War II in America will set off a super depression that will plunge the entire globe into economic chaos, which will farther deepen the economic collapse here in America. The final result could well be mass starvation. During previous wars in North America, food production was low tech and localized. Most food was produced in the vicinity it was consumed in, and every area had many people who knew how to grow food. Food production, processing, and distribution were not much dependent on outside areas. Even so, large areas of the South came close to mass starvation during our first civil war.

2018-01-13 03:00:33 UTC

Today, our food producing system in North America is high tech, specialized, and dispersed. Electrical power for our farms is usually generated many miles away. Fuel and spare parts for the farm machinery are likewise produced at great distances from our farms, often overseas.

2018-01-13 03:00:41 UTC

All the necessary items that must flow into our farms are generally produced at great distances from them. They all converge on our farms, which are themselves scattered all over America. The food produced again flows outwards in all directions to processing centers, and the processed food once again flows outwards in all directions over great distances to reach the consumers. All these steps are high tech and dispersed, a national and global web of highly specialized sub units as completely dependent upon each other as they are dispersed. Today, it is just about as impossible for communities to produce their own food with locally obtained inputs as it would be for them to produce their own space shuttle from locally fabricated components.

2018-01-13 03:00:48 UTC

The disruptions of Civil War II will hamper the inflow of fertilizer, seed, spare parts, fuel and electricity into our farms. Food production will plummet, and the distribution of the little food produced will likewise be difficult, often impossible. Certainly, food will be used as a weapon and withheld from certain areas such as cities under siege.

2018-01-13 03:00:57 UTC

Depending on the scope and duration of Civil War II, tens of millions could perish in a mass starvation unprecedented since the beginning of time. Millions more will die of disease due to immune systems weakened by lack of food. The very old and children will die off first. Soldiers, the most valuable and most heavily-armed portion of the population, will suffer the least.

2018-01-13 03:01:12 UTC

In the worst case scenario organized government will vanish entirely, and the fighting will degenerate into what the Germans term Bandenkreig. Bandenkreig means a war of bands, which is not to be confused with organized guerrilla warfare. In Bandenkreig, independent, roving bands battle each other for access to food, loot, liquor, rape, and sheer survival something akin to futuristic Australian films such Mad Max.

2018-01-13 03:01:20 UTC

Bandenkreig is no mere downunder hallucination. Bandenkreig is the form of societydestroying anarchy that has leveled much of Africa including Rwanda, Somalia, and Liberia where Bandenkreig has included human sacrifice and ritual killing (The New York Times, September 1,1995, p. 1.) (The New York Times, May 9, 1995, p. 4.). Some children in Rwanda were reduced to picking undigested pieces of corn out of human excrement for food. Mexican revolutions often go through Bandenkreig stages. Bandenkreig also developed during the Thirty Years War that depopulated much of Germany from 1618 to 1648. Bandenkreig is a real possibility in Civil War II.

2018-01-13 03:01:28 UTC

Although it didn't receive much attention in the press, inhabitants of Serb-besieged Muslim towns in Bosnia ate the flesh of their own dead (Hans Askenasy, Cannibalism, Prometheus Books, 1994, p. 41). The Muslims resorted to cannibalism rather than surrender because surrender to the Serbs meant gang rape and mass murder - not food. In our first civil war, when Vicksburg surrendered, the starving citizens were given food, not raped and murdered. It is clear that Civil War II will be more like the war in the former Yugoslavia than our first civil war because of the intense ethnic hatred that will fuel it. As in Yugoslavia, food will be used as a weapon in Civil War II. I mention these hideous facts not to be sensational, but as a sober lesson of what America will come to when Civil War II sweeps across it.

2018-01-13 03:01:34 UTC

**The Front**

2018-01-13 03:01:42 UTC

The most likely scenario is that America will be split into three new ethnically-based nations - a Hispanic southwest, a black south, and a white North. Life in the border areas will not be boring. After the initial chaotic fighting stabilizes, a sort of World War I situation will take hold. The front line will most likely run all across the former America, East to West, separating white America from the Hispanic southwest and the black South. A North-South front separating the Hispanics from the blacks is also probable.

2018-01-13 03:01:53 UTC

What follows describes one possible variation of the front. Many factors, such as the number of artillery pieces available, ammunition resupply, and a host of other political, military, and economic factors will almost certainly make the actual front less devastating than the hypothetical front described below. Still, bear in mind that in certain places and for limited times the actual front will resemble this worst possible front. In fact, in some instances it will likely be much worse. There are no technical reasons why it cannot be so.

2018-01-13 03:01:59 UTC

The front will have two main features. The first will be the noman's land, an abandoned area between the forwardmost trench and bunker lines of the opposing sides just as in World War I. The second feature will be an active military zone on both sides of the no man's land extending from the front line back about as far as the enemy's artillery can reach.

2018-01-13 03:02:04 UTC

Nomans land will vary in width according to circumstances. In flat, deforested land such as deserts it will usually be wider, say 5 miles, about the maximum effective range of light mortars. When the front runs through cities, no man's land is generally at its narrowest, often no more than about 100 yards. During the battle of Stalingrad, no man's land in some cases constricted to the thickness of a wall. In some contested buildings, German and Russian soldiers were separated by nothing more than an interior wall.

2018-01-13 03:02:11 UTC

I expect automatic cannon to have an impact on the dimension of no man's land similar to that of machine guns during the First World War, and mortars will also have much impact on the dimensions of the future no man's land. The effective combat range of 20mm cannon is just over a mile, and mortars 5 miles. Therefore, we shall assign a width of 1 to 5 miles to the future no man's land. Currently, the heaviest common artillery has a range of about 30 thousand meters or 19 miles, which will determine the width of the military zone on both sides of the front. Therefore, 19 miles for the two military zones times 2 = 38 miles. (I omit the width of noman's land to simplify calculations.)

2018-01-13 03:02:29 UTC

The total length of this front will be in excess of the aproximately 3,000 miles east to west dimension of the current United States. Actually, it will be longer when you allow for its twists and turns, plus the length of the north-south front separating the black south from the Hispanic southwest, and the fronts surrounding besieged cities and enclaves. However, for our purposes we shall use the conservative 3,000 mile figure. A width of 38 miles times a total distance of 3,000 miles equals a total area of 114,000 square miles. If you multiply this figure by the average population density of the current continental United States, 86 persons per square mile, you get an approximation of how many people will be living, but not for long, on this future artillery range - 9,834,699 people (Actually, there will be more; these are the 1990 census figures).

2018-01-13 03:02:36 UTC

The point of these computations is to give some idea of the impact of this vast artillery range that will slice up America - the front. All the people living in the front will be displaced - displaced because they will be subject to intertent artillery bombardment. To put a human face on these numbers, consider that this artillery range is about the same size in area and population as the states of Kentucky, Louisiana and West Virginia all combined.

2018-01-13 03:02:42 UTC

Now consider the economic impact that the appearance of this front will have. It is clear that if the above three states were turned into artillery ranges today, it would plunge America into a severe recession. About 10 million people would be displaced and become refugees, and all the production of the factories and farms of these states would be lost - either destroyed outright or completely idle, as there would be no workers to operate them. Now consider that all railroads, power lines, highways, and various pipelines crossing the front will be cut. Operation and transport costs for all businesses will soar.

2018-01-13 03:02:49 UTC

The front will be an apocalyptic landscape of smashed buildings, burnt houses, downed bridges, and cut power lines. Weeds will overgrow all. Former pet dogs now abandoned and feral will roam in packs, many of them rabid. Clouds of mosquitoes will breed in numerous shell holes. Bleached human bones covered with shards of cloth will be seen here and there. And at places there will be mass graves, all unmarked, and most quickly forgotten after the soldiers that filled them are likewise killed.

2018-01-13 03:02:56 UTC

As a prudent mental exercise, every reader of this book should consider his proximity to this future front. If Civil War II started tomorrow, my home in Northwest New Jersey, for example, would be within artillery range of Dover, New Jersey, which might very well be under the control of Hispanic militias. Where would they get this artillery? Well, there are a number of national guard armories and federal military reserve armories in the greater New York area that do have tanks and artillery pieces stored on their premises; that's where they'll get them. In addition, they might succeed in capturing some of the large U.S. Navy vessels that frequently dock in New York's harbors. And they might receive them from foreign governments sympathetic to their cause.

2018-01-13 03:03:03 UTC

**The Four Phases of Civil War II**

2018-01-13 03:03:11 UTC

We are, in fact, currently witnessing the initial skirmishes of Civil War II because crime bordering on anarchy and racial violence have grown to such extents that they are achieving warlike dimensions. Based on recent history and projections of current trends, I've broken Civil War II into four phases. These four phases are meant to provide a framework for viewing past and current events from the Civil War II perspective, and for understanding future events as they unfold. Still, it should be kept in mind that (unless otherwise noted) when I refer to Civil War II, I'm referring to the all-out and continuous phase of Civil War II, when tanks will be rolling in the streets and militias will be shelling cities. This all-out and continuous phase will be the final phase with three preceding phases, the second of which we are now in.

2018-01-13 03:03:18 UTC

**Phase 1 - The Foundational Phase**

2018-01-13 03:03:25 UTC

This Foundational Phase began with the cold war, which marked the beginning of our permanent militarization. It shifted high gear about the mid-sixties, and most of the essential features were in place by the late seventies. This phase ended with the sudden shrinkage of the Russian Empire when the Berlin Wall came down in 1989. This phase was characterized not so much by the establishment resorting to force but by their emphasizing the mass media to change our concept of ourselves and our nation. During this phase, potent forces were set in motion whose ultimate design was, and remains, imperial conversion. The strategy was essentially twofold - first to break the power of the working class - especially the military potential of the working-class whites - and secondly to so fortify the domination of the international establishment that their grip could never be loosened. This foundational phase of Civil War II was characterized by:

2018-01-13 03:03:38 UTC

**1:**Tribalization, or the undermining of the concept of citizenship and its gradual
replacement with an imperial tiering system in order to divide the working class along tribal lines.

2018-01-13 03:03:52 UTC

**2:** The creeping loss of democracy by shifting real power away from elected officials and to non-elected judges, other appointed officials, private and governmental institutions, and international bodies.

2018-01-13 03:04:03 UTC

**3:** Gradually falling wages starting about 1972, and increased wealth for the propertyowning class.

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**4:** The slow decay of physical infrastructure of the cities, their abandonment by whites, and their replacement by minorities wedded to the establishment by welfare and affirmative action.

2018-01-13 03:04:27 UTC

**5:** Growing legal and illegal immigration to transform America into a typical third-world nation with a poverty- stricken and apathetic peasantry, and to reduce the white percentage of the population,

2018-01-13 03:04:37 UTC

**6:** The first appearance of racial associations in police, and the militarization of the police.

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**7:** The creation of a vast international infrastructure of treaties and bureaucrats, many with
diplomatic immunity, as part of the imperial tiering system and New World Order.

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**8:** A massive publicity drive to call for gun control in the name of law and order, but whose real purpose was to directly cripple the military potential of the working class, especially the working-class and middle-class whites.

2018-01-13 03:05:07 UTC

**9:** The appearance of massive street gangs. While these gangs were not a component of
imperial conversion, they are a manifestation of its increasingly successful implementation,
and the establishment is now faced with the task of co-opting them or crushing them.

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**10:** The co-option of the mass media, especially the electronic media, to de-emphasize
some events and highlight others, all in relation to their impact on imperial conversion

2018-01-13 03:05:21 UTC

**Phase 2 - The Terrorist Phase **

2018-01-13 03:05:36 UTC

This Terrorist Phase, the one we are currently in, will probably last between another five to twenty years. The key to the end of this phase is the coming chaos in Mexico and the ongoing demographic transformation of our Southwest. This phase is characterized by significant and increasing violence by both the imperial security forces and the resistance. During this phase, the antiestablishment violence is typically carried out by individuals and small groups of part-time radicals with little support from the increasingly disaffected but still mainly complacent majority. This current Terrorist Phase of Civil War II is characterized by:

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**1:** The acceleration of Foundational Phase trends such as tribalization, imperial conversion, and the conversion of America into a third-world nation.

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**2:** Increasingly frequent tribal riots, some featuring multiple day extension, barricades, and heavy weapons.

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**3:** Increasing formation of ethnic militias, armed cults and gangs.

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**4:** Increasing talk of secession and a second civil war by both the establishment, and antiestablishment groups and individuals.

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**5:** Increasing commonness of terrorist bombings, sabotage and other acts of violence against the government.

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**6:** A steady rise of tribal violence as individuals and small groups increasingly attack persons of other ethnic groups.

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**7:** Small scale ethnic cleansing as merchants, homeowners and others are driven out of areas in which they are not the race of a majority of the inhabitants.

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**8:** The demographic and political Reconquista of our southwest. Mexican politicians will
call for the return of "their" Southwest. Massive Mexican immigration into the southwest
and white flight out of it will transform the southwest into a de facto province of Mexico.
The establishment will surrender much sovereignty of the southwest by treaties, affirmative
action, acquiescence to dual citizenship, bilingualism and other devices.

2018-01-13 03:07:38 UTC

**9:** The first food riots in cities as government attempts to shut off welfare. The cities and suburbs will begin to divide into ethnic enclaves with walls, gates and guards. Riots will menace the Congress and the White House in Washington D.C.

2018-01-13 03:08:03 UTC

**10:** The fragmenting and politicizing of the military. Covert and overt racial factions will become common. Our military will come to resemble the old Soviet military as affirmative action officers politicize it by purging conservative whites and promoting minorities and radical whites. The military's racial composition will shift to mostly minority, especially that portion of the military that conducts ground operations - the Army and Marines because these two branches are vital to actually controlling America. The military will increase operations that give it experience in operating governments, such as the operations in Haiti, Bosnia, and Somalia, Such operations will desensitize the military to the eventual military takeover of the United States of America - the true, ultimate and only real point of all these takeovers of foreign countries.

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**11:** The splitting of many of American groups and institutions along ethnic lines, perhaps even political parties

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**12:** The abandonment of some areas of our cities by the police to gangs and other armed,
non-government groups. White police will be purged from urban forces, and the first
firefights will occur between police of different ethnic groups.

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**13:** Gangs beginning to assume political goals and becoming a serious threat to the police in numbers and small arms. Politicians will begin to bid for their military backing. Gangs will begin to take on the characteristics of armies by wearing uniforms, assuming military ranks, standardizing weapons and even acquiring military-style medium and heavy weapons. Gangs will begin to infiltrate military, police and government. The use of armored vehicles and helicopters in anti-gang assaults will no longer be rare, and first use of heavy weapons against gangs will occur in this phase.

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**14:** The first cracks appearing in the loyalty of the white working class to the establishment as imperial conversion and third-world conversion become too obvious to deny.

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**15:** The first armored vehicle being destroyed by the resistance or gangs. A child will be photographed scrounging for food in a garbage dump on American soil.

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**Phase 3 - The Guerrilla Warfare Phase:**

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This phase will be characterized by the appearance of larger groups of heavily-armed and full-time urban and rural guerillas not unlike the IRA and the Viet Cong. The establishment will reply with an MVD Internal Security-type force, and massive suspension of civil liberties. Other features of this phase will be:

2018-01-13 03:09:41 UTC

**1:** The establishment will acquiesce to gang and militia control of some areas which are entirely (but unofficially) abandoned by the police or the military. The establishment will endeavor to co-opt some gangs and militias by making them de facto security forces, and the federal security forces will mount outright military search and destroy assaults against those who don't disband or cooperate. The military and police will patrol occupied ghettos and other areas with armored vehicles, something like Northern Ireland. The use of heavy weapons by both sides will be common.

2018-01-13 03:09:50 UTC

**2:** Mexico will enter a period of chaos, civil war, and starvation. Cross-border guerrilla raids from Mexico will occur, some with the support of the Mexican government. Full-time guerrilla bands will appear in the southwest and other areas.

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**3:** Radical and ethnically-oriented parties will win local and even state elections.

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**4:** Car and truck bombs will become common. Assassinations of police officers and minor politicians will become common.

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**5:** Multiple-day tribal riots with barricades and sieges of police stations will become common.

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**6:** Gangs will become primarily political in their goals and shift into a paramilitary mode.

2018-01-13 03:10:29 UTC

**7:** The first instances of medium-scale ethnic cleansing will occur.

2018-01-13 03:10:41 UTC

**8:** There will be mutinies in the military, firefights for control of military bases, and the conversion of military bases into firebases will begin. A Soviet-style federal internal security force with heavy weapons will be created to quash riots, break strikes, track-down guerrillas, smash mutinies by the police and military, and to battle urban gangs grown into armies. Firefights between police of different ethnic groups and towns will become common.

2018-01-13 03:10:58 UTC

**9:** A general and nationwide flight of persons out of areas in which their ethnic group is not in the majority will occur. De facto secession will occur as cities and suburbs seal off adjacent areas of different ethnic composition with walls. A more or less permanent state of recession will set in. Defeat in a foreign war becomes probable as the international power balance shifts against American interests. Massive flight into walled suburbs and villages will occur.

2018-01-13 03:11:15 UTC

**10:** The capital will be removed from Washington D.C. to a more secure area.

2018-01-13 03:11:40 UTC

**11:** All remaining features of The Bill of Rights will be suspended, certainly in effect, perhaps even overtly by decree. The military will take over much of the USA in much the same manner as they took over many foreign countries like Somalia.

2018-01-13 03:11:47 UTC

This guerrilla phase will be shorter than the current terrorist phase as events will take on a snowballing nature and reinforce each other. This phase should last between 10 and 20 years. Its end will be signaled by a total collapse of central authority as America shatters in the convulsions of Civil War II.

2018-01-13 03:11:58 UTC

**Phase 4: All-Out, Continuous Warfare**

2018-01-13 03:12:05 UTC

This phase will be marked by multiple-day riots that the federal military can not crush in all cases. The front will appear. Radicals or a mutinous military will seize the feder government, but this will be a temporary affair as America itself will vanish. States will secede from the Union. There will be a war with Mexico. Large scale food shortages will occur, and even starvation as a global depression takes hold. Massive ethnic cleansing will occur as new nations emerge. Occupation by UN troops is a possibility. Concentration camps, rape camps, and even death camps will appear as war becomes total. Eventually, the war will subside as the new nations fix their boundaries according to the military reality. Peace and new boundaries are formalized by treaty - the war will end.

2018-01-13 03:12:11 UTC

Our society has become so fragile that it can no longer withstand the shocks that it withstood in the past such as war, depression, revolution in Mexico, and lack of relief for the unemployed. If these calamities should ever again test America all at once, America will surely topple into Civil War II.

2018-01-13 03:12:22 UTC

Civil War II will be preceded by a wave of urban riots that will last an entire summer and extend all across America in every major city. Make no mistake about it, the Los Angeles riot of '92 was Civil War II knocking on the door. Eventually, Civil War II will claw through the door and be upon us like a reptilian predator. These herald riots will be similar to the Angeles riot of '92 in that they will last for multiple days before the police and military assemble sufficient force to put them down, and there will be massive looting and burning of entire districts.

2018-01-13 03:12:30 UTC

The first stage of this summer of riots will seem to be nothing more than the Los Angeles riot of '92 multiplied by most major cities. In this stage, it will still be possible to end that the crisis is manageable and temporary like Phase 3 riots. The riots will then shift into a decided military mode. Street gangs and minority militias will set up barricades, lay siege to police stations, take over television stations, capture entire cities, raise revolutionary flags, and demand negotiations with the federal government for financial relief of the cities, and redress of "racist injustices."

2018-01-13 03:12:45 UTC

The federal government will appease and beg at exactly the moment when strong leadership is required, and all America will see it. Halfhearted attempts to take back some of the cities will be made. Some will succeed, but some will be stopped, and others totally crushed. Surrendering national guardsmen, soldiers and marines will be paraded on rebel TV for all America and all the world to see. Some mostly minority military units will mutiny and go over to the rebels en masse. This will be the point of no return, although many will yet deny it. The rebels will thus acquire sufficient heavy weapons to sustain their endeavors. Throughout the south and southwest, many towns of blacks and Hispanics will declare in favor of the rebellion, and tense standoffs will develop with neighboring white towns.

2018-01-13 03:12:54 UTC

The President will declare a state of emergency and mobilize every military resource to crush the rebellion. Heavy weapons will be liberally used in street fighting, and many minority civilians will be killed in retaking the few cities that are retaken. Most rebel cities will hold on, defended by massive but unorganized minority militias, street gangs turned into armies, rebel police departments, and rebellious, minority-dominated military units. All remaining military units will divide along ethnic lines. Firefights will erupt on every federal military base, and some, perhaps most, will fall to rebellious, minority-dominated units. General ethnic warfare will erupt all across America where groups are intermingled, and where de facto racial enclaves border each other. Now all will know that the point of no return has been passed. America will careen toward total tribal war at 120 miles per hour with the Devil in the driver's seat.

2018-01-13 03:13:10 UTC

Ethnic militias will spontaneously form all across America. Ethnic cleansing will erupt, and isolated pockets of this and that ethnic group will be butchered and bulldozed into mass graves. Cities will be taken under siege, and heavy artillery will be used in their unrestricted shelling. Checkpoints manned by militiamen will appear on all major roads, The economy will go into a crash and burn tailspin. Food will become increasingly scarce at any price, and Americans will fight over garbage they would previously have hesitated to throw to their dog. The militias and gangs, which will now vastly outnumber the police and military, will control black markets, thus increasing both their financial and political clout The front will appear. The fighting will be chaotic, with collapsing and shifting front lines.

2018-01-13 03:13:55 UTC

Beyond this stage, little is certain, much is possible, and certain turns of events more likely than others. Mexico will certainly be swept into the vortex. Hostilities in America will precipitate an utter collapse of the Mexican economy, although turmoil in Mexico is likely to precede our own revolution. In either case, the Mexican economy will be devastated, and many Mexicans will fight on American soil. Any Mexican government of any political persuasion that does not assist Mexican ethnics in America will fall and be replaced by one that will. Mexican guerrillas will raid the southwest. The American government may be replaced by a military coup d'etat or elected radicals. During this initial and chaotic stage of all-out warfare, America will be divided into at least three new ethnically-based regions. All old power structures will be thrown down or greatly modified. The next Stage (stage 2) will be one of military deadlock as front lines stabilize. This second stage deadlock of all-out warfare will be caused by the lack of political and military centralization in the three new regions. After considerable turmoil including fighting within each region, centralization will be achieved in each new nation to one degree or another. Thereafter, each will turn its attention to mobilizing all its assets to the escalation of the war.

2018-01-13 03:14:04 UTC

Stage 3 of the all-out war phase will see the military ascendancy of one side, or an alliance of two sides, and the establishment of a new order in North America, based on the degree of the military victory achieved. Probably all three new nations will survive, but ethnic cleansing to the point of absolute genocide can not be dismissed as a real possibility.

2018-01-13 03:14:27 UTC

This is the admittedly theoretical blueprint for Civil War II in imperial America. Doubtless, the real war will differ markedly, but will just as surely adhere to this scenario in many of its features. Technically viewed, we are now in the second of the four phases of Civil War II, Our first Civil War had such preceeding phases characterized by slave revolts, angry talk of secession, guerrilla warfare in Kansas, terrorist actions like John Brown's raid on Harpers Ferry, assaults on abolitionists, political realignments, and a general hardening of opinion. Watch for more events that demonstrate our current pre-military phases resemble the pre-military phases of Civil War I. And watch for increasing mentions of this resemblance in the media.

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