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2017-06-03 17:56:35 UTC

@Tedium he should watch pastor manning

2017-06-03 18:07:09 UTC

He is of the belief that race doesn't matter

2017-06-03 18:07:46 UTC

He comes at it from a Christian and an "American" point of view

2017-06-03 18:07:49 UTC

But he says black people are stupid though

2017-06-03 18:07:54 UTC

True

2017-06-03 18:08:02 UTC

All created equal, etc.

2017-06-03 18:08:11 UTC

Give me a minute though

2017-06-03 18:08:20 UTC

Christian, race matters

Mark of Cain is being black
John Chapter 8 Christ damns the Jews to Hell

2017-06-03 18:08:59 UTC

Look at IQ distribution by race in nations that aren't race mixed

2017-06-03 18:09:29 UTC

@Riefen I think the mark of Cain leaves more questions than it answers

2017-06-03 18:09:39 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/314228481804468235/320625093917016074/Screenshot_20170522-134110.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/314228481804468235/320625093917016076/iq5.jpg

2017-06-03 18:09:51 UTC

Regarding Jews and whites

2017-06-03 18:10:19 UTC

He would explain that culturally

2017-06-03 18:10:30 UTC

Its a visible mark on the skin. People who have it are liars and murderers at a significantly higher portion than other groups. When people without the Mark see people with the Mark they are almost unnaturally disturbed

2017-06-03 18:10:38 UTC

I'm almost unnaturally disturbed when I see blacks

2017-06-03 18:10:56 UTC

He's a culture over biology kind of guy

2017-06-03 18:10:58 UTC

Blacks statistically commit the most murders

2017-06-03 18:11:14 UTC

What else is a visible mark on the skin denoting a culture of murderers?

2017-06-03 18:11:49 UTC

How do you explain whites and Jews biblically?

2017-06-03 18:11:58 UTC

Serious question

2017-06-03 18:13:18 UTC

Christ tries repeatedly to save the Jews. John, Matthew are the two Canon Gospels discussing that. In John 8 he snaps and damns them to Hell. After that, he focuses on Gentile preaching. The Canon Letters to the Churches focus on Gentile teaching

2017-06-03 18:13:37 UTC

^

2017-06-03 18:13:45 UTC

Nice

2017-06-03 18:14:06 UTC

He literally says "you know me not, for you are not of my Father. You are of your father the Devil, the father of lies"

2017-06-03 18:14:25 UTC

So there's the break

2017-06-03 18:14:46 UTC

I think it starts at verse 40

2017-06-03 18:14:50 UTC

What about the mark of Cain? Jews and whites don't have it

2017-06-03 18:16:13 UTC

Right. MoC are blacks. It has to belong to a group that borders or closely borders Eden. It can't be Indiรณ or Native Americans. Can't be Asians as they don't fit the description of the bearers of the Mark.

Has to be Whites, Jews, or Blacks.

Blacks are regarded by every other race as animals and statistically have the highest violent crime rates.

2017-06-03 18:16:44 UTC

I'm following you

2017-06-03 18:16:48 UTC

Arabs don't exist when the Mark is given out. They won't exist for a couple thousand years

2017-06-03 18:16:55 UTC

Til the tribes split

2017-06-03 18:17:02 UTC

Right before the tribes split*

2017-06-03 18:17:07 UTC

I'm just anticipating his rebuttals

2017-06-03 18:17:35 UTC

Copy. Hit me with em I'll try to re-rebut

2017-06-03 18:18:44 UTC

So Jesus' damning and switch to gentile preaching shows that he was through with the Jews

2017-06-03 18:19:29 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/314228481804468235/320627566987968519/image.jpg

2017-06-03 18:19:35 UTC

Scared my sister hehe

2017-06-03 18:20:13 UTC

And are we to assume that the more universalist stuff like John 3:16, etc had the implication of not referring to anyone with the MoC?

2017-06-03 18:20:24 UTC

@Tedium does he need evidence that Jews hate Christians

2017-06-03 18:20:32 UTC

No

2017-06-03 18:20:39 UTC

The problem with the Mark of Cain is that those with the Mark of Cain aren't supposed to be killed

2017-06-03 18:20:39 UTC

K

2017-06-03 18:20:43 UTC

โ€œAnd Jehovah said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And Jehovah appointed a sign for Cain, lest any finding him should smite him.โ€
โ€ญโ€ญGenesisโ€ฌ โ€ญ4:15โ€ฌ โ€ญASVโ€ฌโ€ฌ
http://bible.com/12/gen.4.15.asv

2017-06-03 18:21:13 UTC

That applies only to Cain though, right?

2017-06-03 18:21:43 UTC

Yeah

2017-06-03 18:21:47 UTC

@Fox Tx it not Jews so much as other races

2017-06-03 18:21:55 UTC

If that makes sense

2017-06-03 18:22:32 UTC

@Tedium ham is the blacks ancestor I think

2017-06-03 18:22:44 UTC

@Tedium it only applied to Cain

2017-06-03 18:22:57 UTC

I don't know that the Bible says anything about Cain's descendants receiving a mark, though

2017-06-03 18:23:04 UTC

Like, a lot of good non-white immigrants come here and do a lot of good and live the country, etc.

2017-06-03 18:23:22 UTC

Love the country*

2017-06-03 18:24:00 UTC

@Ronny TX cains descendants was blah

2017-06-03 18:24:05 UTC

Noah *

2017-06-03 18:24:45 UTC

He's in Houston and surrounded by immigrants and African christians

2017-06-03 18:25:09 UTC

He can't imagine the gospel not applying to them

2017-06-03 18:25:54 UTC

This is just new territory for me. I haven't read my bible in a while, especially from a redpilled standpoint

2017-06-03 18:26:24 UTC

If I can get him biblically, I got him

2017-06-03 18:28:47 UTC

I personally think the Gospel can apply to anyone who accepts Jesus as their Lord and becomes baptized; that being said, I don't think we have any obligation to let them live in our countries or anything of the sort. We can send missionaries to their countries, we don't need them here. Spiritually, all can be equal, but biologically, some are inferior

2017-06-03 18:29:14 UTC

I agree with you.

2017-06-03 18:29:17 UTC

But

2017-06-03 18:29:46 UTC

When he hears brother in Christ any idea of inferiority goes out the window

2017-06-03 18:32:25 UTC

Assuming MoC is genetic (my bad, thought it was expressly stated to be genetic)...

What country of non-blacks has ever butchered blacks and survived?

2017-06-03 18:32:48 UTC

In the same form it did the butchering

2017-06-03 18:33:00 UTC

UK doesn't count because it's unrecognizable. They're the only ones that come to mind.

2017-06-03 18:33:38 UTC

John 8:15 "You judge by human standards; I judge no one."

2017-06-03 18:34:09 UTC

That's the kind of shit he'll say

2017-06-03 18:34:46 UTC

That proves you right. We are humans. To claim that we are Christ is blasphemy.

2017-06-03 18:35:00 UTC

We operate on a lower, baser level than Christ.

2017-06-03 18:35:35 UTC

But there is a call to leave the world behind right?

2017-06-03 18:35:39 UTC

@Fox Tx actually, I think Noah was the descendant of Seth. Just a moment...

2017-06-03 18:35:47 UTC

Depends on version too.

KJV is really big where I live. It's

Ye judge after the flesh, I judge no man.

2017-06-03 18:35:58 UTC

Telling us that it is natural for man to judge based on the flesh

2017-06-03 18:36:07 UTC

Human nature

2017-06-03 18:36:21 UTC

@Ronny TX Cain was the grandfather of Enoch

2017-06-03 18:36:21 UTC

All I have in front of me is nrsv

2017-06-03 18:36:24 UTC

Christ is differentiating Himself from humans by explaining how his entire mindset and world view is different

2017-06-03 18:38:21 UTC

Genesis 5 has the generations from Adam to Noah: Adam -> Seth -> Enosh -> Kenan -> Mahalalel -> Jared -> Enoch -> Methuselah -> Lamech -> Noah

2017-06-03 18:40:22 UTC

Now, Cain did have descendants with similar names: Cain -> Enoch -> Irad -> Mehujael -> Methushael -> Lamech

2017-06-03 18:41:08 UTC

@Riefen would you be willing to voice chat with us at some point?

2017-06-03 18:41:54 UTC

Anyone else willing to help can as well

2017-06-03 18:42:08 UTC

I just don't want him ganged up on

2017-06-03 18:42:37 UTC

@Riefen yeah, my mom used to tell me that the Mark of Cain was black skin too, and it was a common belief for a while. It could be a genetic curse, and perhaps blacks are cursed (that would explain a lot), I just don't know that the Bible *explicitly* says that

2017-06-03 18:43:02 UTC

Mormons taught that for many years

2017-06-03 18:43:14 UTC

Until the early 90s I believe

2017-06-03 18:43:46 UTC

A lot of Protestants did for a while, to justify slavery

2017-06-03 18:45:59 UTC

A lot of people believe that blacks are descended from Ham, Ham's descendants were cursed to be servants

2017-06-03 18:46:02 UTC

โ€œAnd Noah began to be a husbandman, and planted a vineyard: and he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent. And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without. And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their fatherโ€™s nakedness. And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his youngest son had done unto him. And he said, Cursed be Canaan; A servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren. And he said, Blessed be Jehovah, the God of Shem; And let Canaan be his servant. God enlarge Japheth, And let him dwell in the tents of Shem; And let Canaan be his servant.โ€
โ€ญโ€ญGenesisโ€ฌ โ€ญ9:20-27โ€ฌ โ€ญASVโ€ฌโ€ฌ
http://bible.com/12/gen.9.20-27.asv

2017-06-03 18:46:17 UTC

True

2017-06-03 18:46:49 UTC

I was raised Methodist, not sure if it's a common Methodist teaching, but we were taught that. The church still teaches that, and it has around 6 or 7 black members who support that teaching. Very anti-nig blacks

2017-06-03 18:47:18 UTC

*based*

2017-06-03 18:47:18 UTC

So who are Japheth and Shem races?

2017-06-03 18:47:30 UTC

What sort of cognitive dissonance gymnastics are they doing?

2017-06-03 18:47:59 UTC

I've heard that Japheth is Whites and Shem the Semitic races. Semite actually means descendant of Shem.

2017-06-03 18:48:17 UTC

The belief that all may come to Heaven through Christ, but they are cursed and by their very nature are prone to violence and must exert more control than the white members

2017-06-03 18:48:30 UTC

The mental gymnastics ^

2017-06-03 18:49:01 UTC

Basically they acknowledge that on a base level they feel the urge to chimp out but by the glory of Christ they have power over their chimp urge

2017-06-03 18:49:14 UTC

Holy shit

2017-06-03 18:49:17 UTC

They're actually why I hate nigs

2017-06-03 18:49:26 UTC

Lol that makes sense

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