Let me guess, you think there is a part of your mind or another personality that is completely different from yours?

Another personality

@Chalin Answer to that?

?

I already answered

@Deleted User

Wow.

So you are not in any way responsible for your actions?

Uh

I'm the one in control of the body, of course I'm responsible

@Chalin Then how do you know that alternate personality actually exists?

Because I'm one of them

I'm not the original personality

I'm just the one in control most often these days

And unofficially the one who gets to decide who is and is not allowed to front

So in other words you have glorified MPD.

And I'm not gonna let a lazy slob like the host or a unstable bitch like Sophia take the body

Sure

It's called DID these days

I'd fall under OSDD tho

So you are fucked up mentally as well, and let me guess you are gender fluid also.

I do prefer the comparison to DID, unlike most tulpamancers who refuse to acknowledge the similarly

>gender fluid

lmao

Genderfluid is a meme

Trendy millennial nonsense

And being a tranny isn't? Or does your MPD justify that?

Being trans is trendy amongst millennials, but unlike genderfluid, it actually exists

Do you think reassignment surgery is a valid treatment?

As a mental illness...

Reassignment surgery is inadequate

What else is required in your mind?

Modern medicine can't give you real, working female genitals

Oh so you’re saying it would be adequate if it could?

@Chalin What do you propse othet than making your penis into a gaping wound that you have to stick a mystery fluid into in order for it to not clog up.

Plastic surgeons probably won't fix your broad man collarbone

So what’s the treatment option that’s available now?

Or is there none

Adequate would probably require turning that Y chromosome into an X

@John Mackenzie Turn your dick into a giant wound that has to have mystery fluid stuck into it.

There is no true reassignment therapy, as far as I am concerned

So sex/gender is biological then?

@Chalin HAH, good luck getting the human body to accept that without self destructing.

Sex is not gender

Sex is biological

Yeah yeah I know

Gender is biological.

Just different terminology.

The point danger made is exactly why I'm not interested in reassignment surgery

It ain't a real vagina, it's a glorified wound

So why not just get psychological help and therapy to accept yourself as you are?

@Chalin Plus feminine penis > fake vagina

lol gay

Rather than, say, dressing as the opposite sex or identifying as such when your physical body clearly doesn’t match up

I'd rather just crossdress, wear a minima amount of make-up, and get voice therapy

@Chalin Which you should really fucking do

I'm not exactly interested in having sex anyways

@Chalin And, if you change your Y chromosome to X, it will cause your body to go through the same process as if you got an SRS, which means that you will die of toxin build up unless you stick shit up your wound.

@Chalin Man, with all of these health issues and shortened lifespan, maybe the best course of action is to accept who you are.

Why would you want to half-ass pretend to be a woman (by your own admission, it’s not the same as if you changed your Y to an X) when you could learn to come to terms with who you *actually* are?

@John Mackenzie Many do not realize it until it is too late.

That mutilating and mentally damaging yourself in such a way is wrong.

There will always be a disconnect between your existence and essence as long as you refuse to accept who you are. Why do you dislike yourself in this way? I’m genuinely curious as I’ve only known one tranny and want to get another perspective

You accept that there will not be a viable way of transforming your Y chromosome into an X chromosome, at least in your lifetime, right?

@John Mackenzie It is a self image issue, they truly believe that they are either male or female, differentiating from their gender.

Yes I know this

Genetically changing people in such a way will most likely never happen, it just seems too far fetched and too unlikely.

I mean, right now I just wear androgynous clothes and a female hairstyle

I'm fairly happy with that

@Chalin But why.

Wouldn't mind retraining my voice to sound like a woman

And why is that?

But you know you’ll never meet that feminine ideal, right?

not go to try too hard, ye

I’m sorry if that came off as mean, I didn’t intend it to

@John Mackenzie Just like flag waver, they will only end up chasing ghosts of what they believe is true.

Nah, this shit is why I've never really acted upon my gender identity

What shit?

Genetics is invariable

Can't change the lot I was dealt with

@Chalin Really, turn back while you can, genetic science will never be achieved in the way you think it will.

He already said genetics is invariable and he doesn’t want SRS

@John Mackenzie Indeed.

@Chalin but you ARE trying to change the lot you were dealt.

Which means he can still turn back.

I'm changing what I can

Without doing anything permanent

gay

But you just said you couldn’t fundamentally change it.

So your efforts are futile, no?

@Chalin He has a point, you still cannot go around pretending to be what you aren't, it is like a childs game.

No

I don't have a particularly masculine body

And I'm not interested in sex

How old are you?

So it doesn't take much effort to pass as female, other than voice

@Chalin And? Who is to say that if you did work out that you woulden't become fit?

I wish to be perceived as female when people meet me.

That's a reasonable goal

I can't be a female in the bedroom

But sex doesn't interest me anyways

@Chalin Not at all, you cannot be what you are not, pretending to be female is doing the same thing.

Do you think you really ARE a female deep down, or that you have a mental disorder (sort of akin to an anorexic) and being perceived as a female alleviates the negative symptoms (dysphoria)?

@John Mackenzie Gender disphoriam.....

Now that goes under the radar a lot.

Psychologically I'm more female than male.

What does that even mean

It's not a huge difference between male and female psychology

What are female psychological traits then?

That's why people come up with the spectrum nonsense

@John Mackenzie being stupid

@Chalin That is only due to you rigorously forcing yourself to have a difference.

More empirically attuned

Socially would be a better word than psychologically

Actually

@Chalin So you talk a lot.... and?

How is that inheriently a female trait?

I suppose they mean the traits attributed to females

Wait can you answer my question about mental disorder? Do you recognize gender dysphoria as a disorder (one which you wish to treat with cross dressing and voice therapy)?

Gender dysphoria is a disorder, yes

Empirically? Surely you mean emphatic?

Empathetic*

I wouldn't really say there's any cure for dysphoria, sadly

Reassignment surgery certainly isn't a cure

Yeah it really isn't

Reassignment doesn't really help suicide rates

There’s no *physical* cure

Not that I'm suicidal

You're better off with a feminine penis

There’s no physical cure because you can’t become a woman. Because you’re a man.

I'm more interested in putting myself in the social role of a woman

I wish there was some way for you to accept yourself, dysphoria seems like it’d be hell

@Chalin like being in the kitchen?

Which in this day and age requires the same amount of work as is expected of a man

Nau

@Chalin Reassignment actually ends up making suicide attempt rates over 70%.

I’m pretty sure the rate just stays the same

Being in the kitchen or housewife doesn't really apply to modern us society

unfortunately

@Chalin It does in many ways.

Hmm?

Have you looked at saudi arabia or vietnam?

Sure it does, just not in cosmopolitan city centers

What about vietnam?

Like London or NY

I mean, it should apply, but it doesn't

I did say modern US society

It shouldn't apply tbh

@John Mackenzie Talk to traditonal families or muslim families.

Unless you are a nigger

I don't think vietnam is very traditional

In which case, your role is to be poor and raise 3 kids by yourself

"Traditionalist" society has only ever held us back

@Chalin A womans role in a nigger relationship is just to breed.

Oh shit the tranny is fucking based

@Kurt Sturm OY VEY! GOOD GOY

Ye

@John Mackenzie No such thing.

Niggers are rather animalistic

Stop calling them "niggers"

Or I'm likened to call y'all nazis

@Kurt Sturm Offensive to you?

Guess what, I am a nazi.

the final redpill is becoming a black supremacist

Calm down everyone

They're smarter than any non-human, but they're generally inferior in intelligence to other races

Not to me, but it's disrespectful

Is negro better?

@Kurt Sturm I woulden't give two shits if it is disrespectful or not.

Topkek Chalin, that's literally a racist outlook at the world that has been disproven by science multiple times

I sent an email to the KKK about this

But I guess when science disagrees with you guys it's the "Jews"

What’s been disproven?

That intelligence corresponds with race

Only race*

this is the email I sent to the KKK

@John Mackenzie He talks in circles and uses generalization to his benefit, really, I cannot take it seriously.

If you call me a Nazi, I'm going to start posting porn of this pony

Stop please

I surrender

Really? Do you think Australian aboriginals would have 100 average IQs if they grew up in better socioeconomic conditions?

You hate niggers but you're a tranny brony?

makes sense

@John Mackenzie yes

You realize it’s widely accepted scientifically that IQ is like 50-80% heritable

Tbqh, I haven't read enough about the Australian aboriginals to make a statement about them

@Kurt Sturm Remember the time when one of the biggest scientists in the world claimed that there was no evidence to prove that the races evolved in the same way?

Abbos are on the far low-end of racial intelligence

Jews are on the high end

One of the biggest scientists in the world? What places one scientific opinion over another?

IQ doesn't actually mean much

Evidence?

>scientific
>opinion

I mean when you apply it to asians

Kek

@olev LOL

The point of science is to be disproven until you can't disprove it

You can't value one scientific opinion over another, that's retarded

You put way too much faith in IQ

Because science is not knowing

There are multiple factors in someone's intelligence

Upbringing, culture, nutrition, etc

IQ is the most accurate and consequential measurement all of social science has EVER come up with

>accurate

*Maybe* race can affect it, but there's no evidence to prove that

The score fucking varies based upon the test

@olev He is an *INTELLECTUAL*, a brainlet like you woulden't understand.

Only statistics, no actual investigation

You can get a fairly different IQ between tests

@Deleted User

I forgot you were in this server

@Kurt Sturm Really? Not even their skull, skin color, hair, tendencies, or brain?

Hi

I pissed off both a Nazi and a commie

There's been plenty of people on the internet that tell me they have 130+ IQ

and they fucking prove it

One of them was a nigger in fact

Tendencies?

What is that suppose to mean?

I can tell you, every single one was retarded

@Kurt Sturm As in general tendencies in their behaviour.

Well no one is denying there are high IQ blacks, they are just rarer in comparison to say, asians

Tendencies are based on upbringing not race

@Chalin EPIC TRULLZ 4 DAIS

That's not my point though

I mean that having a high IQ

Also skull shape does vary due to environmental differences but there's no evidence supporting that skull shape changes intelligence.

Say 130

i have a very high iq

Doesn't necessarily mean you are an inctellectual or rational

Negros can have high-IQ, no doubt. It's just that far fewer of them have high IQ compared to other races

One need only look at White and Black noses to see the differences

Claiming a 130 IQ doesn’t mean you have one...

They proved it though

i have a 300 iq

I have 130 IQ, Fite me

More blacks are in poverty than most other races

@Kurt Sturm So I guess the black CEO's who commit more crime than the poorest whites just had bad upringings in their extremely wealthy and pampered family?

We are talking about a real metric, not what someone claims onljne

Due to historical racism

it was 95 but then i watched rick and morty

shiet

WhiteBoi oppressing me

i mean... yea

@Kurt Sturm

Why ^