russia still uses their soviet railroads

What? Somalialand is still amazingly inept, poor, uneducated, and nearly lawless, if you mean socialist by "nobody can have any wealth unless you are a warlord or are a "government" leader.", I really don't see how it is socialist in any sense.

And why would russia suddenly stop using their infrastructure after the union dissolved?

no im saying somallia went to shit when the west fucked it up

it use to be a socialist country

But then it tried and failed miserably to invade eithiopia, and then collapsed into anarchy.

well he also combined his form of socialism with the quran

What a fucking dumbass move, whoever "he" is, should have known that socialism and religion are mutally exclusive.

gadaffi did the same thing

Gadaffi? He attempted to gain independance for libya from the west, but they were not having that, he was no socialist in any way, and was killed by the very zionists and jihadists that the west funded.

libya had farms in the desert

gadaffi even stated his goal was a combination of islam and socialism

he didnt like the ussr or america

Kind of like how assad is leading the Syrian Socialist Nationalist Party?
Interesting.....

baathist pan arabist

like saddam

Baathism is a unique form of nationalism, it worked quite well for saddam, gadaffi, and is working well for assad, who has finally put an end to ISIS in syria.

Where gaddafi failed, was that he never got any direct support from outside sources, therefore failing one of the three requirements for a successful gureilla war.

@Deleted User That is a map from months ago, let me pull up a map now.

yup assad basically won the war

him and the kurds did well

mostly him

This is it now.

Note how kurdish territory has become smaller in iraq.

yeah they captured the leader 4 days ago

isis is dead

That's because iraq is going back to baathism and they are waging war against the kurdish, turkey has also began to occupy places within kurdistan.

@Deleted User Wait they did? I need a link to that.

wait nvm

Just remember this: The with isis is now over, and it will pick up with assad VS kurdistan.

hes somewhere around the border

the kurds need thier own country

iraqs leader is a kurd

this is more of an anti rebellion thing

Really? Even when the vote happened iraq and it's leader declared it unlawful and declared war on kurdistan as a result.

he views them as rebels

They only recently declared a ceasefire because ISIS is taking the opportunity to gun down people while the war is raging and dissapearing into the desert.

i think he wants to unite iraq

He does/

under him

not under democracy

Who would have guessed?

its obviously not about race considering the guy IS A KURD HIMSELF

It seems that baathist sentiments still reign even after hussein's execution.

its weird

its almost like hes a nationalist

*obvious gasps

nationalism will always exist in that reigion

A kurd is not always so ethnically.

It is a branch of islam as well.

Parties: Patriotic Union of Kurdistan · Kurdistan Democratic Party · Iraqi Communist Party

The ottomans had a hell of a time with them during WW1.

appearently iraqs current president is a former communist

he use to be prime minister of kurdistan

A big portion of nationalists were ironically communists at one point.

This applies so globally.

hes also just pushing the kurds back into the autonomous zone

nothing else really

Yhea, iraq wants to achieve stability before invading kurdistan.

iraq doesnt want to invade it it wants to assimulate it

if not the west will intervine

The US will never intervene in iraq of syria.

if i were president i would

They tried it more than once, and failed miserably.

and make kurdistan indpendent

and leave the gov in power

it would be best for both parties

they are a drain on eachother

The iraq war only made al-qaeda and ISIS form and become dominant in iraq and syria, and afghanistan never achieved it's goal of destroying the taliban, which still rule 1/3 of the country today.

what if kurdistan was independent

and recognized

That's like saying turkey would not intervene and invade them automatically.

oh turkeys nuked

if they try

Turkey would fire nukes back.

because in this timeline kurdistan has nukes

and turkey dont

Then you are forcing things to fit your reality.

im saying we give reigions vunerable to invasion nukes

so they wont invade

free kurdista

and give them nukes

Are you fucking mad?

They would nuke turkey, israel, syria, iraq, and more right off the bat if you gave them nukes!

no one would invade

But did we supply them with nuclear weapons with the soul purpose of giving a bunch of people who for centuries have waged holy wars against other people in that region?

@Deleted User Turkey has already invaded kurdistan, it is a very small portion admitably, but it is an invasion nonetheless!

every reigion that wants independence should get it

@Deleted User So you give palestine independance? And donsekt? And wallonia? And Venice? And wales? And scotland? And siberia? And Kashmir? And brittany? And the CSA?

@Deleted User its more likely all the states would go on their own and yes

@Deleted User Well give me a slice of that global super balkanization then, because I want to declare independance.

your house

your neighborhood

what are your claims

Independance for my house of course.

You are mirroring anarcho capitalism unintentionally right now.

how long would this senario last

My hero