This is dogma not discourse

@OF-8 If you don't read it you will always have to follow your low-key refined propaganda

You have to read books yourself

Don't read what

That's my fuckin point here you pleb.

@OF-8 Theory

Marxist theory is garbage. Give me a book which will challenge this.

Holy shit you people are anti-intellectual

You didn't read the "garbage"

@OF-8 I've read Main Kampf and other nationalist books. I'm able to read them. Nationalists can't do the same

I read the garbage a long time ago, remember it being garbage, I wanna see what all the plebs are on about

And why do you say it is garbage, what's wrong?

Mein Kampf is the same anachronistic Austrian gymnasium shit fest as das kapital

That is why we are going to annihilate them.

Mein Kampf has pseudoscientific racism and mason conspiracy inside it

Marx discovered labour exploitation

Yes and Marx tells you that seizing the means of production will drive the people into a forced freedom.

So...

Same garbage, same teaching method, same disaster.

@OF-8 after reading you have to remember it. To think about it.

forced freedom?

and why do you seizing the means of production is garbage

the nazis didn't do that

Ornament; I was analyzing the ideological underpinnings of GATE when I found Marx; which is why he was dismissed so quickly.

I was not hoping to get into the problems of the bourgeoise, simply figure out why the education system in USA is so fucked.

It comes back to Marx in the most fucked up way

no, but from liberalism

private education is the problem, here public education is a treasure

I educated myself. It works.

you probably misunderstood marxism

Teach the kids how to learn

@OF-8 If you don't remember a book, you have to re-read.

@Blebleh that's my thesis

you say the ideological underpinnings

I'm going on a vague memory and "how the fans behave"

what's the problem then?

How do I challenge this notion

That marxists are intellectually lazy and stuck in a containment ideology

No, Marx studied a lot, just check the biography

as well as Lenin, Stalin and others

they have plenty of volumes

Yeah see that's an intellectually lazy answer.

RTFM

rtfm, like mao

you're the lazy here

go read from what you don't know instead of believing the capitalist propaganda and bourgeois economy

we answered all your questions

LMAO

If I pick random Marx book some Marxist will say "oh that's the wrong one"

What's the vital volume

@OF-8 pick the right one.

The most concentrated marxpill

principles of communism

then, the communist manifesto, and capital is the definitive one

Capital is the one that made me ree

@OF-8 Anti-During by Engels describes most Marxist views outside of Capital.

liberals manipulate a lot about the labour theory of value

But I will take a look.

Its not too long.

It has to be Marx himself. No secondary sources.

in the critique of gotha's programme he says that labour isn't the source of all value

I don't need to get zizek'd

the theory is 95% true from analysis of the marxist economist Paul Cockshott

@OF-8 Engels considered as a classical Marxist source.

Principles of communism is very short

that too

I don't want to get embroiled in the pantheon of Marxist literature, I just want my insults to be sharper.

@OF-8 Its Capital and anti-During. First major works outside of more pure philosophy

@OF-8 Are you a worker?

I sell labor and other types of value

My labor has wrought a largely passive income.

you sell your labour force to a capitalist right?

My nails are very well manicured.

to a business owner?

Some yeah.

Some to non business owners.

ok

Some to regular folks in whom I may invest

do you have a business?

None of my money is in my name ^_^

So technically yeah

@OF-8 Its hard to read Marx for people who hardly can read books. Start with Engels or Stalin. In fact Stalin and Mao wrote for proletariat on their level.

So you might have a chance

Lmfao. Calm down the struggle session, bucko

I'm going with what @Blebleh suggested.

I agree Stalin and Mao are easy

Stalin wrote for the common people

But it's more to understand leninism

Reading mao in a super racist chink voice made my friends pee themselves.

Reliably. P

But yeah it's commoner focused as hell

I just see in my family

Even your racist friend could read it.

There's a worker in my family working for someone else, a business owner

and he tries to win as much as possible, making that worker work as much as possible, with less salary as possible

this workers earns just a bit in form of salary

>not being racist

the other "value" goes for the business owner

in socialism we can plan this in a form that the workers receive what they work

>able to read books