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2018-02-17 06:34:15 UTC

i'm only familiar with the expropriation of the commons in europe, how did it happen here?

2018-02-17 06:34:20 UTC

it didn't

2018-02-17 06:34:20 UTC

Capitalism isnt a global system now?

2018-02-17 06:34:24 UTC

we never had any commons

2018-02-17 06:34:25 UTC

Interesting.

2018-02-17 06:34:30 UTC

It did

2018-02-17 06:34:32 UTC

yes capitalism is global

2018-02-17 06:34:39 UTC

They werent called commons

2018-02-17 06:34:40 UTC

but we are talkign about nations

2018-02-17 06:34:46 UTC

Because the colonials rolled in

2018-02-17 06:34:47 UTC

they didn't exist

2018-02-17 06:34:55 UTC

oh fuck the native americans you are takling about

2018-02-17 06:35:01 UTC

And just slaughtered the native peoples

2018-02-17 06:35:04 UTC

And took the land

2018-02-17 06:35:04 UTC

we gave them smallpox and they all died

2018-02-17 06:35:09 UTC

that's how that happened yeah

2018-02-17 06:35:12 UTC

And shot them, and waged war

2018-02-17 06:35:15 UTC

For land

2018-02-17 06:35:18 UTC

And resources.

2018-02-17 06:35:19 UTC

that's not capitaism

2018-02-17 06:35:24 UTC

Except it is.

2018-02-17 06:35:27 UTC

that's jsut killingpeople and taking shit

2018-02-17 06:35:38 UTC

you country will be founded the same way

2018-02-17 06:35:40 UTC

capitalism was built on that foundation

2018-02-17 06:35:43 UTC

Why do you think columbus set out for his voyage to india

2018-02-17 06:35:47 UTC

For capital

2018-02-17 06:35:50 UTC

your theoretical country of communal land

2018-02-17 06:35:56 UTC

how do you think you are gonig to get it?

2018-02-17 06:35:59 UTC

It was only his luck he rolled into the americas

2018-02-17 06:36:03 UTC

from my cold dead hands that's how

2018-02-17 06:36:10 UTC

Well yes literally.

2018-02-17 06:36:12 UTC

But again

2018-02-17 06:36:13 UTC

right

2018-02-17 06:36:15 UTC

Covered that.

2018-02-17 06:36:16 UTC

So.

2018-02-17 06:36:16 UTC

you are no better

2018-02-17 06:36:21 UTC

Except we are

2018-02-17 06:36:25 UTC

how?

2018-02-17 06:36:32 UTC

Seeing as how our violence isnt to supplement a global majority

2018-02-17 06:36:32 UTC

you are going to kill everyone and take there shit

2018-02-17 06:36:41 UTC

lol

2018-02-17 06:36:44 UTC

what does that mean?

2018-02-17 06:36:50 UTC

That has the power to cure just about every worldly disease, end world hunger, and poverty.

2018-02-17 06:37:01 UTC

It'd be a movement for people instead of a ruling class

2018-02-17 06:37:13 UTC

And, the violence would be vastly diminished

2018-02-17 06:37:24 UTC

Seeing as how there wouldnt be any reason to wage foreign wars

2018-02-17 06:37:31 UTC

howver you justify it you woudl still ahve to go in and take some other peoples land and kill them

2018-02-17 06:37:32 UTC

For "muh freedoms"

2018-02-17 06:37:40 UTC

There'd be a vast decrease in crime

2018-02-17 06:37:43 UTC

you are takling about waging a war

2018-02-17 06:37:53 UTC

No, im talking about revolution

2018-02-17 06:37:59 UTC

no war but class war

2018-02-17 06:38:01 UTC

Quite a bit different

2018-02-17 06:38:02 UTC

yeah revolution is a type of war

2018-02-17 06:38:07 UTC

that's just a civil war

2018-02-17 06:38:08 UTC

Except it isnt

2018-02-17 06:38:11 UTC

except it is

2018-02-17 06:38:20 UTC

Its literally just an upheaval of the current social order

2018-02-17 06:38:22 UTC

I'm not giving my land to you without a fight

2018-02-17 06:38:25 UTC

and I have guns

2018-02-17 06:38:29 UTC

You might not,

2018-02-17 06:38:32 UTC

Others will

2018-02-17 06:38:38 UTC

But the point is

2018-02-17 06:38:39 UTC

no they won't

2018-02-17 06:38:41 UTC

lol

2018-02-17 06:38:47 UTC

A few people dying isnt a war

2018-02-17 06:38:51 UTC

what land owners have you talked to

2018-02-17 06:38:53 UTC

yes, it is

2018-02-17 06:38:55 UTC

we can get guns too.
easier than acquiring land, actually

2018-02-17 06:38:56 UTC

And they didnt in the USSR?

2018-02-17 06:38:58 UTC

that's the definiteon of war

2018-02-17 06:39:00 UTC

Really?

2018-02-17 06:39:07 UTC

this ain't the USSR

2018-02-17 06:39:08 UTC

NOBODY voluntarily gave up land?

2018-02-17 06:39:11 UTC

Interesting

2018-02-17 06:39:14 UTC

it's the united states of america

2018-02-17 06:39:15 UTC

How about spain?

2018-02-17 06:39:20 UTC

How about germany?

2018-02-17 06:39:21 UTC

we all have guns

2018-02-17 06:39:25 UTC

How about ukraine?

2018-02-17 06:39:35 UTC

why are you still naming other countries

2018-02-17 06:39:42 UTC

You're what you'd call "bullshit"

2018-02-17 06:39:56 UTC

big ups to your banner.
makhno was so cool

2018-02-17 06:40:01 UTC

There is no exceptional class of americans who somehow wouldnt be privy to cooperation

2018-02-17 06:40:12 UTC

yes, there are

2018-02-17 06:40:17 UTC

People will both fight, and cooperate

2018-02-17 06:40:23 UTC

As they do

2018-02-17 06:40:24 UTC

people will fight you

2018-02-17 06:40:29 UTC

Literally everywhere

2018-02-17 06:40:38 UTC

the cooperation you describe in these other nations was by force

2018-02-17 06:40:46 UTC

FORCE

2018-02-17 06:40:55 UTC

Or just people uniting behind an idea

2018-02-17 06:40:59 UTC

Because you know,

2018-02-17 06:41:03 UTC

People do that

2018-02-17 06:41:08 UTC

yes, people uniting to forcefully take shit from other people

2018-02-17 06:41:15 UTC

they do do that

2018-02-17 06:41:22 UTC

Yes

2018-02-17 06:41:26 UTC

Under capitalism

2018-02-17 06:41:32 UTC

And every other system

2018-02-17 06:41:33 UTC

Ever

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