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i'm only familiar with the expropriation of the commons in europe, how did it happen here?
it didn't
Capitalism isnt a global system now?
we never had any commons
Interesting.
It did
yes capitalism is global
They werent called commons
but we are talkign about nations
Because the colonials rolled in
they didn't exist
oh fuck the native americans you are takling about
And just slaughtered the native peoples
And took the land
we gave them smallpox and they all died
that's how that happened yeah
And shot them, and waged war
For land
And resources.
that's not capitaism
Except it is.
that's jsut killingpeople and taking shit
you country will be founded the same way
capitalism was built on that foundation
Why do you think columbus set out for his voyage to india
For capital
your theoretical country of communal land
how do you think you are gonig to get it?
It was only his luck he rolled into the americas
from my cold dead hands that's how
Well yes literally.
But again
right
Covered that.
So.
you are no better
Except we are
how?
Seeing as how our violence isnt to supplement a global majority
you are going to kill everyone and take there shit
lol
what does that mean?
That has the power to cure just about every worldly disease, end world hunger, and poverty.
It'd be a movement for people instead of a ruling class
And, the violence would be vastly diminished
Seeing as how there wouldnt be any reason to wage foreign wars
howver you justify it you woudl still ahve to go in and take some other peoples land and kill them
For "muh freedoms"
There'd be a vast decrease in crime
you are takling about waging a war
No, im talking about revolution
no war but class war
Quite a bit different
yeah revolution is a type of war
that's just a civil war
Except it isnt
except it is
Its literally just an upheaval of the current social order
I'm not giving my land to you without a fight
and I have guns
You might not,
Others will
But the point is
no they won't
lol
A few people dying isnt a war
what land owners have you talked to
yes, it is
we can get guns too.
easier than acquiring land, actually
And they didnt in the USSR?
that's the definiteon of war
Really?
this ain't the USSR
NOBODY voluntarily gave up land?
Interesting
it's the united states of america
How about spain?
How about germany?
we all have guns
How about ukraine?
why are you still naming other countries
You're what you'd call "bullshit"
big ups to your banner.
makhno was so cool
There is no exceptional class of americans who somehow wouldnt be privy to cooperation
yes, there are
People will both fight, and cooperate
As they do
people will fight you
Literally everywhere
the cooperation you describe in these other nations was by force
FORCE
Or just people uniting behind an idea
Because you know,
People do that
yes, people uniting to forcefully take shit from other people
they do do that
Yes
Under capitalism
And every other system
Ever
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