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everything is related
That's right, I could care less by not even bothering to talk to you.
but... you aaaare talking to me
True, but I still don't care enough about what you said.
enough? enough as in enough to what?
enough to reply? but you DID reply?
Enough to care about it.
You still don't care enough to care about it?
Okay.
Everyone has their own stances, and you're making yours. I just somehow fail to understand it, but might a problem on my end.
It most likely is on your end.
Jellybaby?
So. What's your stance on the war on drugs?
It does not go far enough.
We should be taking the war to cartels and dealers.
You do realize that you will never end the war on drugs until you watch over everyone, all the time? Even then you run into the problem of watching the people who are watching the people who are watching the people.
Decriminalizing and legalizing is the way to go.
Not exactly, you see, people also need to be taught moral's, and duty, and as such, when you enforce them, people will not take drugs because the laws tells them not to, but because it is against society and their standards as a whole.
Not to mention, if we hope to stop the drug flow, we must also increase anti corruption, law enforcement, and anti immigration as well.
We should first take aim at the columbia's, and the middle east.
You are wrong. People will take drugs. You can not enforce vice laws, they do not work. There's the whole of human history to show you this.
Your method WOULD work (and make people miserable) IF you watch over EVERYONE 24/7.
Prohibition is wasting the resources of our society at a massive level and has not had even a statistically significant effect on drug use throughout its time. Same as with alcohol, when you ban it, you only make it worse for society, and might even promote the use of the substance as an act of rebellion.
The decade long study from Portugal shows us that decriminalization on the other hand DOES have a statistically significant effect on the amount of drugs users. It significantly reduces it.
What kind of argument are you making if you cannot provide any backing towards it?
Don't even try it now, because you are garunteed to do a google and wikipedia search.
There's literally billions upon billions being wasted on this law instigated by the US government with racist motivations in the last century, which doesn't work, and which the US government itself is abusing. There are official reports which show CIA using drug money to fund their black ops.
How do you mean can not prove it?
Here's the decade long study.
@Dasus The CIA at this point deserves to be dismantled, but it is just part of the system in the US now.
Yes, but you understand a part of the government which is waging war on drugs is actually making billions of profit off of it?
Hey!
whats going on here!?
Im calling the KGB
What?
Are you refusing to cooperate?
>2009
Almost a decade old at this point, disregarded for a lack of relevancy.
@Dasus You think I am in favor of the government?
You realize that the prison system in the US is an industry right? You realize that those people have political influence? Those people use theri politica influence to keep marihuana illegal for example, since they are making a profit off each prisoner and making cannabis legal would seriously harm their profits.
Its nothing to do with morality or cananbis being dangerous, its to do with corruption and money.
H20 means water ๐ ๐
What you are saying is vague, and you still provide no backing towards it.
The study was conducted in the decade following the decriminalization. Of course its relevant to the fucking conversation, since its the best and largest study done on the effects of decriminalization of drugs. What are you on about m8?
>irrelevant
Please. Scientifically illiterate much?
Not to mention, you are still assuming I favor the system.
*Googling intensifies*
Seems like somebody is a little flustered.
@Deleted User googling. Please. I've debated this subject for a decade, don't make me laugh.
No. I'm making it simple for you, since you refuse to accept the more complex evidence I'm throwing at you as "vague"
This is a less than 10 minute video. I'm pretty sure you can last that long. I believe in you buddy!
@Dasus Oh boy, and you still do not provide any evidence to your statements other than a study which was done almost a decade ago.
What a master you are.
Bah. You just don't listen do you. Tell me how you will stop drugs in the world.
My argument is that prohibition doesn't work. All of its history and all of its statistics show this. All of drugs have been illegal almost a century. It doesn't work. Period.
People are STILL using drugs, at a steady rate.
@Dasus I am no superman or world leader, now you are just acting silly.
No I'm not.
Prohibition means that no-one is allowed any drugs. So how come, after a century of having no drugs allowed, at all, there's still THE SAME amount of drugs everywhere?
do you know this guy
Really, going to take the 2 year old defense on that?
this guy is our god emperor
Statistics prove this. Go look it up.
@Dasus >Go look it up argument
Nah, you should do the work yourself, lazy boy.
I did. I've linked you a decade long study on the effects of decriminalization, I've given you a 10-minute long video of an ex US police captain who gives the basic arguments, the same which I gave, that prohibition simply doesn't work, and you still argue that I have given you nothing.
Here's A TWO MINUTE VIDEO. Maybe you can manage to ACTUALLY WATCH THIS?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2kvYWgrxzY
How is that paragraph about how I am a cunt and how I am factually wrong going?
@Dasus Nah, that would just be boring.
I literally did the fucking simple googling for you, but you still pretend to be blind. C'mon man, this isn't even a sport at this point.
>Googling
Hah, I called it.
Of course you would use google.
Yes, I know the points of the arguments. I made them for you. You wanted evidence. I showed you the evidence, which you could've found by using the simple search terms "war on drugs".
But you refuse to refute my arguments, answer my questions or discuss the evidence I linked for you, even though you know you're perfectly capable of looking up information yourself and you know that looking it up yourself will be more trustworthy.
Not really, you still didn't back up 9/10 paragraphs that you wrote.
You see, I came here in search of INTELLECTUAL conversation, and because I abide by the rule of three, I'm gonna just stop it here, since debating dumb twats is kind of a waste of energy, I've noticed, even though it does develop my personal writing skills.
So.
Bye.
Not to mention, you are still using google as a source.
@Dasus >Intellectual debates
You won't find them here.
No, I'm literally not, I linked to several different sources, none of which were google.
You refuse to accept the evidence I shove down your throat, say a peer reviewed decade long study from last decade is "irrelevant", so, yeah.
Bye.
@Dasus >Youtube
Still owned by google.
"of course you would google"
you're a faggot dude
any search engine would work
staph.
its late
@wizzy But why use one at all?
ok
go to the library
All he did was click the first article he saw and the first two youtube video's.
and get some books on it then
but i don't think you would do that
@wizzy Nah, I would rather fuck with you right now.
what the fuck are you talking about
http://www.globalcommissionondrugs.org/reports/advancing-drug-policy-reform/
http://www.bmj.com/content/355/bmj.i6067
https://www.rand.org/pubs/occasional_papers/OP121.html?src=mobile
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/apr/02/un-war-on-drugs-failure-prohibition-united-nations
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/10/opinion/a-decade-of-failure-in-the-war-on-drugs.html
and just as a goodbye gift to you @Deleted User , since you seem unable to use googles products, I've provided a straight link to a google search for ALL the scientific papers on the matter !
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https://scholar.google.fi/scholar?q=drug+policy+reform&hl=fi&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiH6tb33YLXAhWqE5oKHWT8Au0QgQMIIzAA
Good Night!
i nmean sure
@Dasus Thanks for that spam, as a gift to you, I will still not read them.
you'e not really fucking with me though
you will never do anything
you will always be known as a retard
๐คท๐ป
@wizzy Seems like somebody is angry.
Daddy call you a retard again?
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