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2018-12-15 07:52:27 UTC

Spoiler alert you're wrong

2018-12-15 07:52:31 UTC

Right, so I could massacre a whole family and immediately go to heaven

2018-12-15 07:52:34 UTC

Ephesians 2:8-9 New International Version (NIV)
8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faithโ€”and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of Godโ€” 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.

2018-12-15 07:52:40 UTC

READ JAMES

2018-12-15 07:52:46 UTC

this is already clear

2018-12-15 07:52:51 UTC

so that no one can boast

2018-12-15 07:53:00 UTC

no ofcourse not freshwholemilk

2018-12-15 07:53:05 UTC

you'll go to hell

2018-12-15 07:53:08 UTC

Faith without works is dead

2018-12-15 07:53:08 UTC

James literally says faith w/o works is DEAD

2018-12-15 07:53:08 UTC

or anywhere but heaven

2018-12-15 07:53:20 UTC

works is to believe unto the one he sent

2018-12-15 07:53:28 UTC

youve been trolled from day 1

2018-12-15 07:53:29 UTC

You should try reading the Bible sometime

2018-12-15 07:53:31 UTC

Thatโ€™s faith

2018-12-15 07:53:44 UTC

You gotta be trolling

2018-12-15 07:54:12 UTC

This is too dumb

2018-12-15 07:55:35 UTC

I have so much more respect for men like Martin Luther and the various old school prots than any of these new age hippies who want to do away with all organization, hierarchy, rules, structure

2018-12-15 07:55:48 UTC

41 โ€œI do not accept glory from human beings, 42 but I know you. I know that you do not have the love of God in your hearts. 43 I have come in my Fatherโ€™s name, and you do not accept me; but if someone else comes in his own name, you will accept him. 44 How can you believe since you accept glory from one another but do not seek the glory that comes from the only God[d]?

2018-12-15 07:55:52 UTC

It's spiritual Anarchy

2018-12-15 07:55:53 UTC

I do not accept glory from human beings

2018-12-15 07:56:23 UTC

Isaiah 64:6
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6 vWe have all become like one who is unclean,

and all our righteous deeds are like a polluted garment.

wWe all fade like a leaf,

and our iniquities, like the wind, take us away.

2018-12-15 07:56:37 UTC

What's your point

2018-12-15 07:56:38 UTC

all our works are like dirty rags to the lord

2018-12-15 07:56:55 UTC

Snake, heโ€™s a troll

2018-12-15 07:57:08 UTC

28 Then they asked him, โ€œWhat must we do to do the works God requires?โ€

29 Jesus answered, โ€œThe work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.โ€

2018-12-15 07:57:15 UTC

im not a troll

2018-12-15 07:57:22 UTC

but pls reply to this:

2018-12-15 07:57:23 UTC

28 Then they asked him, โ€œWhat must we do to do the works God requires?โ€

29 Jesus answered, โ€œThe work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.โ€

2018-12-15 07:57:24 UTC

Look if we're playing a cherry picking game we can do this all day

2018-12-15 07:57:45 UTC

And no progress will be made

2018-12-15 07:57:45 UTC

for by faith you are saved through grace

2018-12-15 07:57:54 UTC

you just havent truly believed

2018-12-15 07:57:59 UTC

thinking works can save you

2018-12-15 07:58:37 UTC

You can say "by faith alone" then I say "faith w/o works is dead" then you repeat yourself and so on

2018-12-15 07:58:42 UTC

What's the point?

2018-12-15 07:58:58 UTC

works is just being a good human being

2018-12-15 07:59:20 UTC

one furfills the law by loving one another

2018-12-15 07:59:26 UTC

how much clearer do you want it to be?

2018-12-15 07:59:50 UTC

So if I love my wife it's okay if I cheat on her

2018-12-15 07:59:58 UTC

Because I love her deep down

2018-12-15 08:00:08 UTC

are you a good human being if you cheat?

2018-12-15 08:00:25 UTC

It's almost as if there are RULES that must be obeyed

2018-12-15 08:00:50 UTC

It's almost as if your WORKS are how you demonstrate your faith

2018-12-15 08:00:59 UTC

Romans 3:20

2018-12-15 08:01:00 UTC

New International Version
Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God's sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin.

2018-12-15 08:01:46 UTC

it is almost as if god is pointing out you shouldnt be a prick

2018-12-15 08:01:48 UTC

No, the rule "don't cheat on your spouse" isnt merely there to prove that we are sinners. It's a rule that God wants us to obey

2018-12-15 08:02:09 UTC

And failure to do so is unacceptable

2018-12-15 08:02:38 UTC

Fuck this new age bs where there are no rules

2018-12-15 08:02:53 UTC

the righteous lives by faith

2018-12-15 08:02:56 UTC

its not new age bs

2018-12-15 08:02:58 UTC

its just the truth

2018-12-15 08:03:48 UTC

It doesn't matter how much you claim to love your wife, to believe in God, to love God, to be a Christian...if you cheat on your wife, you've failed.

2018-12-15 08:04:06 UTC

Galatians 3

2018-12-15 08:04:07 UTC

10 For all who rely on the works of the law are under a curse, as it is written: โ€œCursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law.โ€[e] 11 Clearly no one who relies on the law is justified before God, because โ€œthe righteous will live by faith.โ€[f] 12 The law is not based on faith; on the contrary, it says, โ€œThe person who does these things will live by them.โ€[g] 13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: โ€œCursed is everyone who is hung on a pole.โ€[h] 14 He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit.

2018-12-15 08:04:31 UTC

By Faith

2018-12-15 08:04:36 UTC

*By faith*

2018-12-15 08:04:41 UTC

What is your point?

2018-12-15 08:04:44 UTC

so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit.

2018-12-15 08:04:45 UTC

No more rules?

2018-12-15 08:04:47 UTC

that not by the law

2018-12-15 08:04:50 UTC

but by faith

2018-12-15 08:04:58 UTC

And?

2018-12-15 08:05:07 UTC

You're just deflecting

2018-12-15 08:05:19 UTC

Address my point

2018-12-15 08:05:52 UTC

If a so called Christian cheats then he has failed as a Christian, right?

2018-12-15 08:06:21 UTC

Hebrews 10

2018-12-15 08:06:21 UTC

26 For if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 27 but a fearful expectation of judgment, and a fury of fire that will consume the adversaries. 28 Anyone who has set aside the law of Moses dies without mercy on the evidence of two or three witnesses. 29 How much worse punishment, do you think, will be deserved by the one who has trampled underfoot the Son of God, and has profaned the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and has outraged the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know him who said, โ€œVengeance is mine; I will repay.โ€ And again, โ€œThe Lord will judge his people.โ€ 31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

2018-12-15 08:06:23 UTC

read that

2018-12-15 08:06:32 UTC

No. Address my point

2018-12-15 08:06:47 UTC

I'm sick of you posting endless verses and refusing to engage

2018-12-15 08:06:50 UTC

if he cheats while knowing the truth (that god is good) he was never a christian at all

2018-12-15 08:06:55 UTC

nor was he ever in the book of life

2018-12-15 08:06:59 UTC

Ok

2018-12-15 08:07:10 UTC

So I have a question then

2018-12-15 08:07:25 UTC

Didn't he have faith?

2018-12-15 08:08:00 UTC

He knew the truth, that God is good. He believed. Did he not have faith?

2018-12-15 08:08:22 UTC

And yet you claim (rightly) that he is no Christian.

2018-12-15 08:08:24 UTC

you cant cheat god

2018-12-15 08:08:26 UTC

ma dude

2018-12-15 08:08:36 UTC

you cant cheat god out of his game

2018-12-15 08:08:39 UTC

sorry but its not going to happen

2018-12-15 08:08:52 UTC

Answer my question: did he have faith?

2018-12-15 08:08:56 UTC

i dont understand

2018-12-15 08:09:00 UTC

are you asking me

2018-12-15 08:09:03 UTC

if he had faith when he cheated?

2018-12-15 08:09:13 UTC

I'm asking if he had faith period

2018-12-15 08:09:13 UTC

or if he knows the truth that god is good

2018-12-15 08:09:23 UTC

in what situation are we speaking of

2018-12-15 08:09:25 UTC

He believes in God

2018-12-15 08:09:29 UTC

then he has faith

2018-12-15 08:09:46 UTC

Yet he "was never a Christian" in your own words

2018-12-15 08:09:56 UTC

if he deliberately cheats

2018-12-15 08:09:59 UTC

What happened to "by faith alone"?

2018-12-15 08:10:07 UTC

Suddenly it's more complicated

2018-12-15 08:10:20 UTC

the law is written in our hearts

2018-12-15 08:10:25 UTC

a man knows its wrong to cheat

2018-12-15 08:10:26 UTC

Just admit it, ones actions matter

2018-12-15 08:10:52 UTC

ones actions matter for one salvation

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