hi kap

k bye then

are you here to keep me company here

i literally only came back to tell eris she;s an idiot

b&

@Fluffles you were saying?

relativism's bullshit and the cowards way out

lying will get you nowhere

is

is this how its going to be

mean it

i change my worldview to get back in and your immediate reaction is that im lying

i can read you like a book

wha

im being serious here

can you like actually listen to me

im changing my worldview to appease you

i'm listening

like i said

i realize im wrong

being relativist and subjective is dumb

there is an absolute truth

oh boy

fren

yes hello floof

i'm not going to bother talking my way out of this chat

well as you can see

there probably isnt a way out of this chat

given that ive done what she asks and im still here

there is

you have not

all this is doing is killing the main chat's activity and alienating its members by making them worried about getting yanked here next

you've banned two people and have two more stuck here now

i have one month left in the semester

i am aware that i will be able to pull through it and i will not be in the same situation that made me feel bad after i return home

i do not need to be given further advice

i have a gameplan for the remainder of the semester and am ok with it

your mentally ill girlfriend will break up with you when her mood swings and you will kill yourself

okay

Eris i think that’s going too far

you can prevent that

you aren't

it will be your fault

your intention isn't to help me, it's to display dominance, and i'm not buying into it

i just want to get along with others and have fun

my intention is to help you

you are not

i am

no mental justification inside your head will change the uncompromising and objective reality that this is a nonconsensual "advice" session and nothing productive will come of it

i neither require nor desire your consent

if you want to die go right ahead

i want to die then

thank you

k

then that's what will happen

perfect!

discussion over

i am glad that we were able to come to a mutual understanding about my feelings on the matter.

we mutually understand that you are a failed person

i will respectfully refrain from making a pithy remark about what you just said because i do not intend to inflame tensions

it's true

@Vivi you're not getting anywhere trying to tell me that i'm "not listening". i know i'm not listening. i am aware that i am letting personal situations take over my emotional state but even in an ideal scenario, i do not currently have the agency to change my situation.

i was not like this before because i had personal agency and was able to make choices for myself, but at the moment i do not have alternative options to choose from in my situation and telling me that recognising that to be the fact of my current situation is a bad thing is not helpful.

none of this was necessary. in a month i will be free of my present situation irrespective of the outcome and again be free to make my own choices, and then i will be much happier.

You have perfect agency.

outside of the NEET world, there are actual external pressures that can exist and prevent you from making the choices you desire to make. @Eris

You always have and you always will.

You want to pretend that you don't because it removes responsibility.

i am in this situation because it is my responsibility to perform well academically in order to future my career, and in order to do so i have to accept the emotional distress that comes from balancing a mental illness with the workload.

then it's your choice

your choices should not make you feel bad

you accept them knowingly

after this semester i will be in an academically advantageous position irrespective of whether or not i fail the courses that i am concerned about

then what reason do you have to feel bad

because there are consequences to performing poorly this semester that i cannot change

namely issues with my parents

of course you can

no, i cannot control the actions and minds of others

you can control your actions

i am

then what reason do you have to feel bad

you need to brush up on your own reading comprehension skills.

i explained that the stress is coming not from my own actions, but from the effectively inescapable actions of others who wield authority and power over my life and well-being.

it is an external pressure.

i can choose to "not care" about the actions my family will take, but that can cause me serious problems with maintaining a steady place to live and a future in education

so i choose to care

that's stupid

because it is an objectively terrible choice to disregard potentially important life events

i have intentions on being a post-graduate with a JD, eris, and that requires me to care

what is the point of worrying about something you do not control

it can severely impact my quality of living

what purpose

does the worrying serve

quality of living is a foundational stone on maslow's hierarchy

if i have that removed

how is it useful

the rest of the pyramid will tumble out from asunder me

what purpose
does the worrying serve

i have to be aware of consequences that i cannot control in order to emotionally prepare myself for when they happen

this is useless