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2019-12-04 00:47:02 UTC

> I understand that you as a communist may not understand how the free market works, but it is an amazing tool that allocates resources and preference to the highest ability.
no it's highest bidder cus the def for demand if *the willingness and ability to buy a good/service*

2019-12-04 00:47:49 UTC

@Revolutionaryarmchair Whats the argument for that?

2019-12-04 00:48:03 UTC

Therefore whenever you raise prices and the quantity demanded drops, you basically exclude access cus this is often due to high prices acting a barrier to purchase

2019-12-04 00:48:26 UTC

wtf this is like neo classical

2019-12-04 00:48:39 UTC

not weird neo wickesslian shit or something

2019-12-04 00:48:42 UTC

Can you prove demand drops and not just purchases.

2019-12-04 00:49:08 UTC

you mean a shift in the curve?

2019-12-04 00:49:43 UTC

Yea prove that an increase in prices drops demand by a significant amount, and not just purchases.

2019-12-04 00:49:54 UTC

cus the problem with economic *allocative efficiency* under a market is that it presumes that wealth/purchasing power is kinda equal

2019-12-04 00:50:21 UTC

> Yea prove that an increase in prices drops demand by a significant amount, and not just purchases.
quantity demanded

2019-12-04 00:50:54 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/649061211849097217/651586193233936425/shiftindemand.png

2019-12-04 00:51:16 UTC

quantity demanded is a particular point affected by a change in the firm/firms'/supplier's price

2019-12-04 00:51:19 UTC

Can you cite an actual study or data set and not just a drawn together graph with no backing.

2019-12-04 00:52:33 UTC

Also this graph does not have anything to do with the demand claim.

2019-12-04 00:55:30 UTC

are you trolling?

2019-12-04 00:55:59 UTC

me>

2019-12-04 00:56:00 UTC

?

2019-12-04 00:57:07 UTC

wait is someone trying to say that markets allocate resources efficiently?

2019-12-04 00:57:11 UTC

<a:OMEGAROLL:629486397673439262>

2019-12-04 00:57:33 UTC

```Results indicate that mandatory (voluntary) prescriptive policies focused on outdoor watering restrictions achieve approximately a ten percent (three percent) reduction in aggregate demand. Given the inelastic price responsiveness of households, an average price increase of more than 30% would be required to achieve the same ten percent reduction in water use that the prescriptive mandatory policies achieved. This price increase would imply a 20 percent increase in the average customerโ€™s monthly expenditures on water. ```

2019-12-04 00:57:47 UTC

water is ofc inelastic in PED cus you know

2019-12-04 00:57:55 UTC

not very much substitutes for water....

2019-12-04 00:58:50 UTC

@Mou I'm a market socialist but fuck austrians and neo classicals

2019-12-04 00:58:56 UTC

yikes

2019-12-04 00:59:00 UTC

market socialists

2019-12-04 00:59:06 UTC

y i k e s

2019-12-04 00:59:10 UTC

I'm post lange

2019-12-04 00:59:18 UTC

markets suck

2019-12-04 00:59:29 UTC

I prefer like post hungary free capital markets but complete collective ownershi

2019-12-04 00:59:37 UTC

can't remember the name

2019-12-04 00:59:53 UTC

but it was two polish economists who came up with a system I quite agree with

2019-12-04 01:00:01 UTC

> markets suck
in some cases yes

2019-12-04 01:00:13 UTC

basically externalities and market failure

2019-12-04 01:00:23 UTC

in all cases

2019-12-04 01:00:55 UTC

However, behavioral econ shows that traditional neo classical concept of *market failure* is based on bad abstractions and modelling of human behavior

2019-12-04 01:01:02 UTC

@Revolutionaryarmchair no, i said is ausfix trolling

2019-12-04 01:01:10 UTC

oh yea feeewh

2019-12-04 01:01:14 UTC

cus I actually take econ

2019-12-04 01:01:37 UTC

markets assign shit based on capital instead of need and therefore suck shit

2019-12-04 01:01:48 UTC

I like taking econ cus whenever ppl call me *dumb* for being a socialist I just take out the *magic card*

2019-12-04 01:02:39 UTC

economics is a spook

2019-12-04 01:03:37 UTC

Mou, market socialists would agree with you on that point, generally. That's why as far as I'm aware, most hardcore market socialists want nationalized healthcare and decommodified water and housing at a baseline level.

2019-12-04 01:04:02 UTC

(The capital versus need bit, not the economics being a spook bit)

2019-12-04 01:04:45 UTC

> markets assign shit based on capital instead of need and therefore suck shit
in an abstract model, they assign based on the highest bidder and what receives most profit, so productive efficiency as a sacrifice of basic environmental integrity (more negative externalities) and allocative efficiency as mainly allocating based on *consumer demand* which is both impossible to properly aggregate (Sonnenschein-Mantel-Debreu conditions) and is biased towards those with higher wealth/purchasing power

2019-12-04 01:04:55 UTC

dynamic efficiency is pretty based tho

2019-12-04 01:05:40 UTC

spook

2019-12-04 01:06:04 UTC

๐Ÿ‘ป

2019-12-04 01:06:04 UTC

stop

2019-12-04 01:06:05 UTC

cringe

2019-12-04 01:06:06 UTC

posting

2019-12-04 01:06:18 UTC

```market socialist```

2019-12-04 01:06:22 UTC

```cringe posting```

2019-12-04 01:06:28 UTC

> minimax

2019-12-04 01:06:31 UTC

I think u dropped this chief ๐Ÿ‘Œ

2019-12-04 01:06:35 UTC

> material balance

2019-12-04 01:07:05 UTC

I think you just went larping to stirner without actually reading *ego and it's own*

2019-12-04 01:08:20 UTC

```If a currently unsuccessful enterprise is prevented from attempting to raise capital in the market in order to restructure its operations, including branching out into other more promising fields, or cannot be taken over by a more dynamic firm which sees latent opportunities, strict application of the market rules of the game would actually lead to gross inefficiencies: not only would those enterprises unable to recover go out of business, but also those with good prospects although in temporary difficulties.```

2019-12-04 01:08:23 UTC

brus and laski gang

2019-12-04 01:08:29 UTC

spook

2019-12-04 01:08:32 UTC

i can't read

2019-12-04 01:08:47 UTC

<:VIBECHECK:641780385042268181>

2019-12-04 01:09:22 UTC

<:Really:644892122784464937>

2019-12-04 01:09:42 UTC

<:hmpf:644892023844896798>

2019-12-04 01:11:04 UTC

I don't have the internet

2019-12-04 01:11:43 UTC

you using the public library or something?

2019-12-04 01:11:49 UTC

also why do you have nitro then?

2019-12-04 01:14:44 UTC

I don't have eyes

2019-12-04 01:15:04 UTC

so you have like a voice control system that blind ppl use?

2019-12-04 01:15:12 UTC

and able to play europa?

2019-12-04 01:15:20 UTC

pretty based if you're not lying

2019-12-04 01:15:48 UTC

I'm lying

2019-12-04 01:16:06 UTC

but that would be kinda based tho

2019-12-04 01:16:09 UTC

<:pepeWow:639844545017806878>

2019-12-04 01:17:08 UTC

all blind ppl adjust their accessibility settings to include some kinda voice text thing

2019-12-04 01:17:23 UTC

there's this *economist* (more like gold standard larper but ok)

2019-12-04 01:17:29 UTC

who uses a text machine

2019-12-04 01:17:41 UTC

that has an audio function which reads written text for him

2019-12-04 01:17:47 UTC

cus he has dyslexia

2019-12-04 01:18:02 UTC

blind ppl save money on light bulbs

2019-12-04 01:18:17 UTC

substantiate?

2019-12-04 01:19:10 UTC

that was the weirdest way to say wdym

2019-12-04 01:19:11 UTC

lmao

2019-12-04 01:19:35 UTC

people who are sufficiently visually impaired have no use for light bulbs when home alone

2019-12-04 01:45:59 UTC

no substantiate means *prove*

2019-12-04 01:46:12 UTC

elucidate means wdym

2019-12-04 01:46:51 UTC

@Dodger101 I took that the other night

2019-12-04 01:47:04 UTC

It turns out the left really is anti-white

2019-12-04 01:47:15 UTC

Don't tell SOLO

2019-12-04 01:47:23 UTC

nerd

2019-12-04 02:39:32 UTC

@Marcdoof why arent you #1 ?

2019-12-04 02:47:07 UTC

Can't you see, Loki is #1

2019-12-04 03:22:21 UTC
2019-12-04 03:22:39 UTC

yup

2019-12-04 03:22:44 UTC

soon

2019-12-04 03:22:57 UTC

I'm the leader of the KND

2019-12-04 03:23:06 UTC

Wait does this mean i'm fat

2019-12-04 03:23:08 UTC

Marc is a dirty adult

2019-12-04 03:23:14 UTC

lol

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