That’s my only experience with helis

Wanna be flight medic but the school has a few fucked up civilian contracts and I’d have to re-enlist for like 6 years

Jesus

You at least get a nice bonus?

I originally got a 20k bonus

Same

I have a psyops buddy who got offered 50k to reup if I remember correctly

He refused cuz his wife was pregnant or something gay like that

I know a guy who got a 60k bonus

What a gay move to get a woman pregnant

Ya super gay

IKR

Bro girls are gay and have cooties

And date night takes money away from the gun fund

That’s true

Need to order some level 4 plates. I don’t want AR500. Ceramic is preferred. Any suggestions?

Looking into these. https://www.shellbacktactical.com/shellback-tactical-level-iv-hard-body-armor-plate/

Honestly for the prov con. IV plates are a waste of money man. Your best bang for your buck is to go III+. The only real advantage the IV has over the III+ is that it can take a .50 cal hit, but the impact would kill you, so its pointless.

I’ll look into that. Any good plates in mind?

From personal experience, AR500 are the best on the market. I have used them for years. I actually used them back in the day before they were called AR500 and it was just two guys making plates in their garage.

I would also advise steel over ceramic. There are almost no pros to the SAPI/ceramic/hybrid plates other than slightly less weight, which personally you really never notice.

Yeah the weights not the issue. My main concern is with spalling

The Ar500 has a build up coating now that stops that.

Ceramics have a ton of issues, that make me wonder why anyone even uses it.

I think a lot of people like using ceramics because you see them get NIJ testing done a lot of the time

And weight

Which personally isn’t an issue for me. Maybe If your a high speed and wearing kit all the time

Well AR500 is one of the most tested products on the market. Mainly the reason why most people go ceramic, especially the Military is price.

The difference in weight between the steel and ceramic is less than 3lbs per plate.

Yeah AR500 is decently priced for the protection it provides

They also have some good cheap deals. Like their Lvl III plates you can get for as low as $65 per plate.

That’s super cheap

Yeah and they are rated up to 7.62x39. You can bouch Ak rounds off those things all day long.

bounce

The major issue I have with ceramic is that you never know if the plate you are wearing has been compromised or not.

Yeah micro fractures are a thing

Yeah and that makes the armor useless. It can happen from any little bump or drop(and US military logistics are NOT gentle) and you can'ted tell unless you Xray the plate.

I have been shot in the steel, multiple times, just put the plate in a new carrier and kept on using it.

That’s probably the worst thing about getting shot in the plates. Damage to the carrier.

Personally unless it fucks up the carrier bad it’s probably still good to use.

No the worst thing is the impact, and then dealing with cracked ribs. But yeah with the steel plates, your carrier is gonna probably suffer the most damage.

I meant aside from medical complications

A lot of people get flail chest

No once your carrier is compromised you should replace it. The sheer weight alone will cause any minor damage to escalate quickly.

I got a nice video of flail. I’ll have to find it somewhere. Maybe if the stitching wasn’t up to par. But I haven’t seen anything on it so what do I know

Well that is SOP. If you get damage to your gear you replace the gear. especially salt water.

Won’t let me send the video but there’s a photo in off topic of it

Yeah I have seen it.

It’s a pretty popular video

But yeah I would go with a good set of steel III+ armor for the price. The steel just has so many more pros to it.

III+ looks good on paper. I’m going to look into it a bit more

Well with steel you get limitless shelf life, where as with the others you only get 5 years. The Ar500 steel gets you a lower profile, a full set of four plates combined have a lower profile than just one ceramic/SAPI plate, so you aren't walking around like the marshmallow man. And the III+ are rated up to .30-06 AP, so unless someone is potting at you with a fucking barrett you are pretty much a juggernaut.

Soon...

Botach has a level 4 PE/Ceramic composite plate for $100 per plate. 5.5lbs per plate.

I was just looking at the ar500 site an hour ago. Glad to hear some real world opinions.

Everytime I hear AR500 I keep thinking it's some uber advanced AR15 from the future

I know it's meant to be armor but still

Kinda wanna get one of these for my truck

I had one for my Jeep

It was nice

I feel like it want last very long on my truck though

Wouldnt last very long

i just sleep in my truck bed wrapped up in wool blankets and a sleeping bag. a tarp over top if it is snowing/raining

Get you a woobie and your set

Well I wanna have a recovery rack on my truck bed

I have slept in 10 degree weather on the ground with just my woobie

So this would go over that.

I miss my old Jeep. I’m about to sell my current one and just get a truck again

i love my little chevy colorado
has more leg room than a f150 but getts better gas milage and is only a single cab

I love my truck. I almost bought a jeep but then decided on my truck instead. Couldn't be happier

I get 13mpg right now

Got an 04 wrangler

About to get a 2014 ram 1500

10.6 mpg average. Haha

vroom

i would go out and take a pic of my truck but it is 4 degrees out and blowing snow

I’d take a pic of my Jeep but it’s 700 miles away

I just have random saved up photos for whenever I'm away from my stuff. Haha

Ain’t that fancy

I understand though

Yeah I just like machines in general

yea some guys are into cars some are into guns

some are liberals

I think it's part of the reason I like guns

JK

Hahaha

Think I got a picture of my Jeep . But it’s of the inside whoops

I think I'm gonna get some 80% lowers...

Jeep gun or no. Think that was one of the 1000 times I go to the range a month

Do it

Been looking for a decent condition used mystery ranch rats pack or 3 days assault BVS

Late christmas presents from my wife

That crossfire is a pretty decent optic