@DataVoid

Does that summarize what you stand for

Even if it's not 100% to your specifics

Yup if your a self sufficient and i think thats a overall positive for society and those who leach off of it by living off of other peoples money does deserve that. I agree that making severe cuts to couples that have children to incentivise it

Well, atm I care little about your position and your possible conversion to a less materialistic belief set. There are massive materialistic negatives for eugenics however

Charity is domain of the Church, not the state

Here's a video that i agree with thats states my points much better https://youtu.be/Bs4c6UXP72Y an interview with a biological scientist

I'd like to have an indepth discussion later, but rn I need to clean

Room is a mess

Its a great video all around exploring the idea its a great watch i highly recommend it

Whoa

An ed dutton fan

based

Epic

Data is based af

I'm wat ch ing it as I clean

woman above

hes also a big brained nibba

Lol

Idk, materialist

Finna set my phone down, that's tight, I'm saying bye 3 times

Should curry be eaten with chicken

Curry should be banned

curry smells bad and tastes bad. no good

Lol u have never tasted really good native curry

ok

curry is good u guys are pussies

@DataVoid in the video are you a fan of the interviewer or dutton

Also, are you religious?

I am a fan of both of them

Ah, I had laughed when he said "so is it a cycle that societies get smart enough to realize a god doesnt exist"

It certainly is a cycle, but the content is laughable

I am not religious but think its likely that something akin to a god did exist at some point in time hense the create of the universe break almost all of its own laws but past the international create i dont think there was any involvement

Breaks

What

So you think gods dead

No either he doesn't care or doesn't know what he did a being that have infite power dosen't necessarily mean they know everything too

Omniscient doesnt mean all knowing either

It just means he understands all possibilities

Not that he knows the future

Yeah i think the eldritch interpretation of a god is most likely the closest thing yo the truth a "god" doesn't care and doesn't see us as anything significant or is like the blind idiot god from the lovecratt books

I can only argue for a god, not any other specifics. I am no theologian

You're on your own past that then

I am pretty sure either the universe was created by a time loop which is possible without a god however borderline impossible to happen or a being that created all the energy and let the cards fall as the may but any involvement past putting in the energy was extremely little to none

Well, the catholic view has freewill. He cares for us, but he doesnt intervene much

Anyhow

Back to cleaning

Catholicism is blessed by Jesus

Protestantism isn't

Okay, I was planning on pausing the stream while cleaning to take some notes

But this one is too good

You advocate for eugenics presumably for iq

@DataVoid

At 35:00 he states that high iq lessens the extent that a person may be good with tasks that have a weak iq correlation

Like pathfinding

As iq rises, society may become so intelligent that it just doesnt function

I agree with that to an extent

@Faust^2 I think our future will be more like idiocracy

The smart will not breed

Also lookup the book: "The curse of the high IQ" to understand how painful it really is

This is true

But it doesnt help me debate a eugenicist

I absolutely agree we are already seeing the effects now

Its just gonna get worse and worse

Thats why i think economic eugenics is necessary

It's been shown the Flynn affect is going backwards

What is economic eugenics?

Its just letting natural selection take its course unimpeded

We lose around 3 iq per generation

With giving people welfare they don't deserve

Not

@Roko

@Roko economic eu is giving less taxes to high iq families who breed

Stuff like that

Not outright killing mutants, just funding their decline

In a round about way

Thats why i think dr dutten is correct humanity might be a pendulum thats swings for extreme to extreme

Yep

Not a pendulum, but a cycle

It's so sad. We're still clueless as a species even with super advanced technology

I can talk about the philosophy of time later

But if you want a overview read the short essay "The Fate of Empires"

Or the book "Secular Cycles"

The welfare system will implode by itself. It cannot work like this for long. Society will naturally have to adapt. You can ignore reality, but not the consequences of ignoring reality.

The us is predicted to run out of money because of welfare by 2027

We both know they will just inflate all of that debt away. That's when other countries will start getting a clue that the dollar shouldn't be the world reserve currency. My best guess is that the US will start inflating their debts away, and people will seek refuge in cryptocurrencies (as they should)

I recommend all of you to at least hold Monero. Bitcoin isn't that secure since people can look at your balance after you send them something. Would you feel safe with everybody knowing your net worth? 🤡

@Faust^2 what did you think of the interview?

Seemed like basic dutton shite

It seems odd to me that you're eco eugenics yet you realize the height of iq, industrial rev, caused societal decay

Everything is connected and impacts each you have to look at applicable solutions put your mortals second see what works than apply them and take the least shitty route

The least shitty route cannot be taken

All routes are shit

An ever lasting society is one that doesnt exist

Thats very true. You should look at some of Turd flinging monkeys content he has a very convincing argument of human condition and female emporment to explain were they are i personally lie inbetween the two i think both are correct on some issues and worng on others

To explain why we are in clown world

He seems too hyperfocused

No one fully understands human civilization

Lol what happened to my curry discussion

I agree on that i think the reason hes hyper focuse is because he has an extremely good point on that issue is trying to see how it comes all together from the starting point he has