Gender identity doesn’t exist.

You’re either a man or a woman.

You either got a dick or a pussy. Pardon my French.

what about dussies

@Attika @Silver Remember to argue about this in a __civil__ and __logical__ manner no matter how much you disagree

We have taken this issue apart very intensly in medical school

Intersex people are so rare we won’t even discuss it.

Really? Enlighten me.

They know their gender identity as a child, which is why they get HRT and then kill themselves as a young adult

I have a doctor in my family, and I personally know two nurses. They all say it’s hogwash.

You’ve been fed spoonfulls of lies by hippies who became professors.

And I know PhDs and Professors who studied this issue all their life

muh phd

As I said. So do I. Evidence please.

Nice appeals to authority

Modern Education means nothing.

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Some appeals authority are legitimate

OMG have you even read Locke?

im somewhat sceptical of the expertise of these ''experts''

I think some studies need to be presented or this is just going to continue as a circle jerk

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Even then, studies are not concrete

Some studies may contradict one another's results

Not all studies are equal

meta analyses then ig

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I cnm present some tomorrow, but I'm on mobile

Rn

Couple hours

whats your basic argument against gender identity? @Silver

If gender doesn’t exist.

Why then...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.livescience.com/amp/8779-fertile-women-manly-men.html

🤔

Gender exists clearly

Gender identity exists

There are multiple gender

That's what I'm saying

yeh theres 2

I can agree with that

2 is more than one i think

oh

If it’s not against nature. If it’s not an abomination. Then why do you’re own studies show that they are trying to kill themselves in record numbers?

muh discrimination

Yes clearly social facors have no influence on this

@Attika You should also note that it's been proven even in communities where they are accepted it's still as high, only lowering by about 5% which rules out "because they're soical outcasts" @Silver @Deleted User

Their bodies are so out of whack they can’t figure out what’s up is down or down is up.

Not true

Social factors like how their community constantly abuses and gaslights it's members?

Hormones have nothing to do with it? Lols

Can someone pull up that data between being LGBT and sexual abuse?

But if you encounter daily hate for being the way you were born then a tendency to suicide is obvious

I'm not saying there aren't Problems in the LGBT community

There very much are

No.

They don’t encounter daily hate.

ofc these people are mentally ill and vulnerable
they need to be institutionalised to receive treatment

My point is more people turn to those communities because of abuse

Only 12% of boys who believe they are transsexuals still believe so when they are older. Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18194003

Some of them do

Because when they encounter hate, they scream about it to such an extent it’s obnoxious.

About 88% of children who have gender dysphoria do not hold those beliefs when they grow older. Source: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=90229789

If causal hate is okay then you should put it on display, this kind of behaviour is mot acceptable

Transsexuals who undergo sex reassignment surgery are more likely to commit suicide. Source: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885

Only true haters are the LGBTQ group themself who are openly against the Straight Pride Parade. Lols

that one has been ''debunked'' tbh @Maksim

Only 21% of transsexuals can sucessfully pass as the opposite gender. Source: http://www.thetaskforce.org/static_html/downloads/reports/reports/ntds_report_on_health.pdf#page=3

21% that's a scary thought

it didnt compare them

I have like atleast 20 more studies

And in case you were wondering about just how far they will go to see hate

maksim coming in hot with fax and logic to own the libs

damn

Thanks now I won't be able to get with a "woman" again out of fear

@Deleted User which

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-life/11760417/Air-conditioning-in-your-office-is-sexist.-True-story.html

fookin libs

They see hate everywhere.

@Attika excuse me

That can’t be true bruh

No.

the one about higher suicide risk after reassignment

It really is.

Not pertinent tovthe discussion

@Attika Their logic is this

>men are more resistance to colder tempratures
>women are not
>men intentionally lower the temp to be more comfy for them since they prefer lower temps
>this is sexist

*say sike right now*

@Maksim oh I know their logic. It’s just they call it sexist and say it’s anti-woman. Lols

Surprisingly for some I disagree that this is sexism

Well they call it sexist.

But this is using the most ridiculous case to prove an actual problem

what are the typological distinctions that warrant a greater number of classifications than 2 genders? @Silver

Anyway

This is a bit off topic, we were discussing trans people, not feminism

true

But it’s all related

Intersectionality means feminism with trans, Islam with feminism, etc etc.

You get people who oppose intersectionality

All the groups support each other. It’s why you will never find feminists condemning trans or vice versa.