Been awake on my end

@nymphidelity#7722 it was nice talking to you! I'm probably the boring one, don't worry about it.

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Anyone want to talk some real shit, like history?

I mean why not ig

Ok. This is more of a "Devil's Advocate" argument

However, let's say institutional racism is "real" Where have we seen this before?

Oh god, warning that it's 5 AM and I haven't slept, so where did we see this before-

South africa?

I mean ig-

Yes, and England and Rome for a bit

ig? (Never heard of it?)

I have but without sleep it feels like I'm pretty shitty and stupid rn

I haven't heard much of it though, but I know the term

What does ig mean? >.<

I guess

You see

I'm a mess

I'm done ;-;)

Oh, my bad

Would you like a lullaby? I know a few on YT

Nah I'm fine thanks for the offer though

Sadly it's normal for me to stay up this late

Ouch. Perhaps we can pick this up later if you'd like

Thanks, sorry

No problem, I need to wake up anyway

lol

*Pokes the chat*

Ow my eye

O_O You ok? (:P)

Yeah lol

How are you?

Tired

Noticed your avatar, do you like debate and stuff? Also, how long have you been around?

I tried to sleep, but some assholes had sex in the room above mine

This is why I fucking have to wear headphones when I'm at a hotel room

Ouch. Say no more, I live in an appartment myself

Also yeah, I like debating, but I'm pretty ignorant on some topics

I've been around for about... Idk honestly, it's been pretty long

Don't worry, it's SJW crap. (JK, but I'm going to use devil's advocate and history to royally screw them over)

I guess it's been a month

You know how SJWs say that there's "Institutionalized X" X being anything they deem oppressive?

Well, systematic oppression does exist. However, the way BLM is trying to solve it helps no one

It only divides us further

For sake of understanding further, how is there systemic oppression?

For starters, Nixon's war on drugs incarcerated millions of black people

Meanwhile, Bill Clinton also passed some law that also resulted in more incarcerated black folks

Ok, so no "Women are oppresed due to wage gap" or "Black lives are persecuted by the N-Word" stuff

Just trying to understand context and stuff

The wage gap doesn't exist

Also words are just words imo

I'm well aware, just examples of some people say

I took a long look at American and Western history. And I have been able to come to a fair conclusion based on Power Structures.

Would you prefer me to begin with Rome, France, or US. Take your pick 😛

(There's something that all of them have in common)

Um, I guess Rome

Rome. The very birthplace of mass slavery. After wars have been fought, people were made into slaves to tend to farms.

Until Christianity. Christianity was a relgion that gave the concept of NOT enslaving each other who look similar to us

Pretend you are a Roman for a second though, If I said some guy who died will absolve you of your sin when you beleive in Pluto, would you believe me?

No, not at all

There is the inital premise, without sufficent reason, most people would say "Fuck off crazy" or "Leave me alone"

Now imagine if I came at it in a different way.

Say a group of the very people who said those things tried to ban Gladitorial fights, since it was murder in a time where murder was techincally good in some cases

How would the senators and leaders of rome react?

I think they would've thought that group was crazy

Quite. Now, for a slightly different scenario

Instead of directly going to people and saying "Jesus died for you," you went up and said "I'm worried about you, here's a few coins and a lesson from my religion/ideology"

How would the populus react (If they weren't paranoid like most romans were)

They would have taken the coins and the lesson

Right. Thus, in the early days of rome, rome was taken by association with good will and relgion, and thus converted

Any one see how not racist franny is?

Wat

I'm getting to that. She's alienating the very people she needs

She doesnt hate white people she just blames them for everything

Right, and thus alienating them from her cause

Jesus fucking christ

You ok Sc?

Yeah

Shall I go on?

Ofc

France. During... Eh, who cares. Just know that it was a revolution/civil war. People were angry and tried to overthrow the king.

Then england came in and was like nope we need you to have a king

What happened after that?

Wait, really? My memory might be off

It was during the enlightenment I think

It was after the us split from england

Oh, was it? @ ~ @ I keep forgetting these things

Yeah the rovolution was 1789

The french one

Thanks. I might use that in the future ^^

Google info

My goal is to show how all opressive structures were only broken in history by support of the oppressor.

Go the encylopedia britanica

So in the case of a group like BLM, supporting them will break it?

I am only like 16 so bare with me if I get details wrong >.<

Not necessarily. @sc_human

Dude, you know a lot about this shit for your age though lol

I said that the Structure was only broken apart by it's opressor. If the oppressed make the oppressor not happy, worse things happen to the oppressed

Rome and Chirstians, French and itself, MLK and Clergy

It feels simple, but I might be missing somethign