^

this is what we should encurage

not being 30 and looking like youre 14

not that skinhead garbage

yeah, that is great. but just becaues you virgins fantasize and dream about that, doesn't mean that aesthetic will sell and appeal to the average joe

nibber

the average joe doesent like thugs

and football hooligans

you know

most people have an ideal look they want to emulate, and its not one that makes them look like thugs and gangsters

at least not the people you want to influence

what looks more respectable?

this

or

this

who would you want to stand behind in a movement?

heh......

funny pics

but false dichotomy of course

🤔

>its just a dream and fantasy to want to look like a respectable and successful man with a healthy family

If wholesome 1950's era stuff is what everyone wants, then why don't you hear it anywhere?

🤔

you sound like a nigger tbh

agreed

hahah

look at the avatar

i am

*heh, i want to create a good traditional society but I still want to listen to rap, dress in sweatpants and hoodies and look like a skinhead*

>communists and kikes have had free reign in society for 60 years
>i wonder why most people don't want to emulate that anymore

nah, man. this is my problem with the alt right. i agree 100% that unifying the family is the way to go. we need traditionalism. but you guys live in a fantasy echochamber cuz you never actually date girls or do anything in the real world. you don't understand human nature. how many thirsty alt right faggots throw shekels at the eceleb trad thots who are unmarried while completely ignoring a true trad mormon mom with 10 kids (mother with a purpose)

to appeal to the masses you need some sprinkling of macho shit

for neews

news*

we need nick fuentes in suits

100%

> cuz you never actually date girls or do anything in the real world.

🤔

that's not macho you fucking idiot

that's a fucking criminal

but for music and art, it's foolish to think that

ask literally anyone and they'll laugh at ghetto thugs

its not macho

maybe in ghettos sure

but anyone outside of the ghettos

no

and we dont want thugs in our movement

>communists and kikes have had free reign in society for 60 years
>i wonder why most people don't want to emulate that anymore

okay, okay

time to listen to you guys

tell me

how will you appeal to the masses?

looking respectable

and not being the average skinhead

you dont look very intelligent when you look like the average hood rat

continue to move the political needle in our direction, if it fractures the country all the better so we can cut out the infiltrators at the root

in the shortest amount of time

>continue to move the political needle in our direction

how?

i'm focusing on culture here since this is <#379821643096260608>

by not making ourself look like unintelligent thugs for once

"politics is downstream from culture"

so how do you change the culture?

in a realistic way

please understand

i agree 100% with the optics in public thing

but in my mind is separate that completely with music

and especially european slav music...

irl my hair is shaggy

i don't rock the fashy cut

because i understand the optics you talk about

and if i come off as "one of those"

then ppl will not listen

its not optics

its image

what image do you want to show people?

optics is about diluting the message to try and appeal to more people

sorry

i don't understand what you are trying to say

are you arguing semantics?

not surprised

optics =/= image

?

Image is about how you present yourself to people. Opticsfags want to control the language we use

yeah, you're retarded and just nitpicking

same thing

and you made an arbitrary definition

whatever

its not retarded you shitskin

i'm not actually black

just a joke

but in regards to appealing to the masses

and how the average joe views us

how to you change society so it's more traditional

reveres fathers more

more nationalism