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I guess my question won't be answered
The Eucharist in my experience is remembering Christโs actual blood and body that was shed for us.
Why does the priest tell me I crucify Jesus every day?
The bread is the teachings of Christ, the wine is the new covenant
Don't actually assume it's flesh and blood, the flesh profiteth nothing
25 Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me.
26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
30 I and my Father are one.
The council of nicea propogated the doctrine of the trinity as they removed books from the bible
John 17:21
**John 17:21 - King James Version (KJV)**
```Dust
<21> That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. ```
Are we God?
We are one in them.
how can jesus and gods hand be the same hand if they arent the same?
It's not literal
it is
jesus is god
30 I and my Father are one.
If it is literal then we are God.
nope
John 17:21
**John 17:21 - King James Version (KJV)**
```Dust
<21> That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. ```
your a creation
We aren't God.
he is in you
Jesus is the Son of God.
his spitirt is IN you
IN
IN
He created us in his image
not ARE
IN
us
not US
We are not necessarily him though
The Spirit of God was in Jesus
Did you deny the baptism?
The Spirit of God went into Jesus in the baptism, then God said
Matthew 3:17
**Matthew 3:17 - King James Version (KJV)**
```Dust
<17> And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. ```
This is my beloved self in whom I am well me?
That's not what he said
That's schizophrenia
Stop ignoring John 17:21
**John 17:21 - King James Version (KJV)**
```Dust
<21> That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. ```
Can you read
he is IN
you
you are NOT HIM
THEY THEY MAY BE ONE IN US
IN
IN
NOT US
he is IN
us
we ARE NOT HIM
your a satanist
the devil told adam and eve they can be gods
The FATHER IS IN JESUS AND JESUS IS IN THE FATHER JESUS SAYS SO STOP DENYING SCRIPTURE TO MAKE YOUR TRINITY IDOL
thats you
no
he nevers says we are god
John 20:17
**John 20:17 - King James Version (KJV)**
```Dust
<17> Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. ```
he never says we are the father
I SAID WE AREN'T
never
You donut
we arent god
Ofc we arent
Boi
jesus is
Is this religious discussion or English class
is jesus god?
No
dammed
30 I and my Father are one.
He's the Son if God like the bible says
no one gets to the father but me
but through me
you dont accept jesus as god
your done
Bibleman, you are confusing the idea of Catholic Trinity onto people who believe what scripture says, and deny scripture because of it. Father, Son, Holy Spirit. This isnโt trinity doctrine from Catholics. Itโs scripture.
Mediator between God and man
I learned it in Catholic school
Catholics are wrong
The trinity isn't even Christian
It's babylonian
Boi saints aren't at the same level of Jesus that's ridiculous
why did the jews kill jesus?
The flood is also babylonians
what did they accuse him of
Because he claimed to be Messiah.
he claimed to be god
No he didn't
@rightthehand cus Jesus didnt like them doing business in Synagogues and money talks
You are believing the pharisees
When they falsely accuse Jesus
19 There was a division therefore again among the Jews for these sayings. 20 And many of them said, He hath a devil, and is mad; why hear ye him? 21 Others said, These are not the words of him that hath a devil. Can* a devil open the eyes of the blind?
The pharisees are the bad guys and you take their words over Jesus
i take jesus's word
"i and teh father are one"
Jesus says his Father is his God
and they are one
John 20:17
**John 20:17 - King James Version (KJV)**
```Dust
<17> Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. ```
God has a God?
Basic logic
john 10:30
**John 10:30 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**
```Dust
<30> The Father and I are one."```
done
John 17:21
**John 17:21 - King James Version (KJV)**
```Dust
<21> That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. ```
Read nigga read
be AS
Tbh the trinity doesnt really make sense anymore
I think @Bibleman is winning
IN
the father IN
in isnt not the same as BEING
John 14:10
**John 14:10 - King James Version (KJV)**
```Dust
<10> Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. ```
John 17:21
**John 17:21 - King James Version (KJV)**
```Dust
<21> That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. ```
dwells in jesus jut liek it dwells in you
Wow it's in CONTEXT
but jesus is also god
human
liek you
but god
The Word is God's Wisdom
Thatโs nonsense.
1 John 1:1
**1 John 1:1 - King James Version (KJV)**
```Dust
<1> That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life; ```
@Derek Nelson I'm turning into a Unitarian you need to help me
Youโre saying Jesus isnโt the word.
I'm joining the dark side
John witnesses the Word becoming flesh, right?
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2 timothy 1:9
**2 Timothy 1:9 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**
```Dust
<9> who saved us and called us with a holy calling, not according to our works but according to his own purpose and grace. This grace was given to us in Christ Jesus before the ages began, ```
The Word becomes flesh AND JOHN WITNESSES IT
This grace was given to us in Christ Jesus before the ages began,
What did John witness
What did he witness
And what flesh did John witness? Jesus.
so Jesus was around before time began
He witnessed the birth?
read dude
No
who saved us and called us with a holy calling, not according to our works but according to his own purpose and grace. This grace was given to us in Christ Jesus before the ages began,
He witnessed the BAPTISM
BEFORE the ages began
He didnโt have to witness his birth when he was a baby himself..
The GRACE was given
Not a man god
why did god say he and the father are one?
JOHN witnessed Jesus in the FLESH.. the WORD was standing before him
if they arent?
John witnessed the baptism, the word becoming flesh is the baptism
So what is the word?
the word doesnt become flesh
the word is the sproirt of god
John 1:14
**John 1:14 - King James Version (KJV)**
```Dust
<14> And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, ) full of grace and truth. ```
the WORD was Jesus
Jesus Christ is the word.
yup
jesus
The Word is God's word, his promise of LIFE
god became flesh
At the baptism?
he was god and human
liek a square circle
cause he is god
what part of .. WORD was made flesh.." and dwelt amonst us" dont you get??
John was sent to witness the word become flesh
the word is the god....
He witnesses the baptism
he did witness it.. he was in the presence of CHRIST
He witnessed the SPIRIT OF GOD go into JESUS
the word "god" is written on all of us...but we arent god....God...the spirit or word became flesh with jesus
THE WORD WAS GOD
The word became flesh at the baptism
THE WORD WAS JESUS also
no
SPIRIT OF GOD DWELLS IN JESUS
2 words?
the word became flesh with teh birsth of christ
Thats unbiblical
no its not
jesus was human
No you are ignoring all the evidence rightthehand
the spirt of god dwells in all humans
what eveidnce?
You are not good at debate, you aren't reading
you ingore jesus telling you he and teh father are one
when pressed
Jesus says we are one in them as the Father is in him and he is in the Father, just as we are one in them
It's context
Stop taking verses out of context
@Bibleman if Jesus isnt God is he human
IN them
You ignore the truth because you were TAUGHT the trinity by MEN
the spriit is IN us
Yes.
we are NOT THE SPOTIRRT
Jesus is the LAST ADAM
Are all of his miracles from his independent power or through God's will @Bibleman
He is a man
and god
God SENT a man
I wasnโt taught the trinity by men, Bibleman. Strange how you keep recycling that argument.
the trinty isnt in the bible
the oppsisite
jesus says he and god are one
not 3
You said yesterday you weren't trinitarian, and now you are preaching trinity at me
3 3 3
This is schizophrenia
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66
33
3 3
lol
See, I have exposed his spirit of antichrist
Every time I post scripture that refers to Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, you scream trinity.
god is the father
jesus was him int eh flesh
I donโt even mention trinity.
teh spitrt is the morals written on us
The Father is in Heaven
1 god
Matthew 3:17
**Matthew 3:17 - King James Version (KJV)**
```Dust
<17> And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. ```
god is everywhere
yes
You ignore the testimony of God
gods son is still god
๐
god doesnt have children liek we do doofus
lol
Do you know what a miracle is
He that winketh is full of deceit
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