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In turn this causes the fish to stop reproducing as they can no longer get to their spawning grounds.
This leads to a build up of heavy metals in the water and algae blooms due to nothing eating the algae anymore. This leads to the water becoming toxic and deoxidized.
This isn't a hypothetical either. This is what is happening in Quebec.
If you honestly believe that one can not ruin something for the many then you're ignorant, or you don't care.
@Summī Imperator, 呪い殿 first off, who built that dam?
It would be the one who chose industry.
Not my question
The community needs electricity to run machines.
Unless you mean that ultimately the decision lies with the state to build a dam.
No
Who built that dam?
Uh...
In Quebec
Oh, well that's stupid. It was Quebec.
The one you used as an example
So the province allowed it.
In other words not a local community
And the utility used the authority to build it.
It was allowed by the community.
Via the Democratic process.
And lack of resistance.
Democratic process is awful, but that is a side point
It was also welcomed.
As it created jobs.
Neither does democracy = local community
And an economy.
And again, how does that mitigate the affect the one community might have on the others?
Because democracy serves the majority interest, not the community interest
I used it as an example of the effects a dam can have.
Not as an example of building it.
direct democracy serves majority interest
Or by whom.
not all kinds
The US is technically a democracy and
there isn't mob rule here
I was just asking you what would be the punishment for such a transgression and who would enforce it?
Democracy=gay
Ur gay
go away
Don't reveal your power level Milk.
Democracy in the us allowed the opening of the borders which was then a race to who could get the most voters
That's irrelevant.
our main problem is the supreme court tbh
Sorry, but I couldn't let that stand
and the federal government
as a whole
neither of which has to do with the democratic system
The federal government is reflective of democracy though.
Somehwat
Somewhat
iirc federal gun laws are unconstitutional
yet we have them
You're distracting.
@Summī Imperator, 呪い殿 what I was trying to get at, was that every one of these examples you give of industrial development hurting communities I can almost guarantee it wasn't made at the local level.
From the QotD.
You say these decisions *should* be handled at the local level though.
If we pay attention to historical context of the 1st Amendment you could make an unconvincing argument that any gun law is unconstitutional. But laws restricting certain weapons are in theory not unreasonable.
This has nothing to do with today's QOTD
And that they should have the authority to do these sorts of projects.
Yes, Zexy
I would prefer if it was completely left to states
But some effects are unforeseeable, so I was asking what would happen?
If one community made a decision that affected several others?
If they can show that damages have taken place, they can sue them or settle some arrangement where the damages are fixed or paid for.
Who enforces that?
And who decides what a forest is worth?
Either a court or a private arbitrator of some kind
How do you gauge how much damage there is from losing a forest which provides food and resources for several communities?
A single tree can be considered priceless
And money will never bring those resources back
So
How do you mitigate this when money isn't enough?
This is why you could make a settlement where the other community provides the lost food source
So you would have a community starve its people?
What?
An industrial community isn't going to have much food
If that community didn't have enough for both, would you have one go hungry?
An "industrial community" as you are imagining it wouldn't choose to damage it's own food source.
It's not the food source to them
It's a good source for the others.
However, you can have food industry
That would be an agricultural community
I'm just asking how an issue like that would be solved under such a system.
No, I'm taking about industrialized farming
When money isn't enough.
Aaaaaand if the community were not that sort?
They have food for their people, but not enough for two communities
There is no "money isn't enough"
Much less several.
Hahahahahaha
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Alright. I'll just stop here.
Money isn't enough to replace lives lost, and that's about it
If you actually believe that.
There is no point to talking to you.
You haven't given an example where money wasn't enough
Money can't bring back an entire Forest.
Nor can it mitigate that income.
Yes it can
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