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So now you've changed the message to fair pay, why don't you think everyone deserves fair pay? @Deleted User

fair pay? More like fair gay!

Lol

The disproportionate ability people have will always and instantly overwhelm any concept of egalitarianism.

And does.

@Deleted User Hm, seems I've found the reason people don't understand socialism. I've now said twice that it's *fair* pay, not equal pay, yet you still misunderstand the concept of people being paid fairly.

People dont get paid fairly now?

i think i get paid fairly

i have a job that pays minimum wage in my state and i think its good enough

i WISH it was higher because its fucking money but

Then prices increase making the increase in wage null

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I think war should be used to further progress a nation.

Especially in Europe, war is what propelled Europe to the top due to the drive to innovate and push for deadlier and more effective ways to kill people, which translated into civilian use.

War is just diplomacy by other means

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@Jere Your thoughts?

About what?

I think that war should be used a lot more often as a way to achieve goals

'no'

@Deleted User ?

It's not profitable to start wars anymore

*oil*

yeah

to brown people

War is extremely profitable still if done correctly

I am both for that and against it. I don't want to start wars BUT I want my country to have good defence, and survive.

Even in Europe

ecks dee

no

Ukraine was insurgents

If you annex a country or even a portion of it, you can potentially get all their factories and resources

Yeah only if you have historical claims

that would only work with Russia

Who gives a shit about historical claims really?

Russia has claims to Ukraine/Belarus

The problem with that in Europe is that Great britain will most likely rush to try to stop it though

literally everyone

International recognition dosent matter

Ukraine/Belarus aren't real countries

Russia literally takes a part of ukraine and no one does anything

If you have the factories and they dont recognize you have factories they are just blind

factories aren't useful

Ukraine is rightfully part of Russia

or not as useful as you think

factories aren't useful

Wars being prosperity and wealth long term

To the winning side

Weapons manufacturing factories are quite good in my opinion.

Prussia won lots of wars

now it doesn't exist

The thousands of wars that happen in europe is a reason Europe is as advanced as it is now

Prussia exists via Germany

you lose one and they carve you up permanently

no

Prussia *is* germany

Prussia literally doesn't exist

it's owned by poland

It's a direct ancestor of germany

owned by poland

Prussia was german in identity

opposite

Prussia created the german identity

fact is though, you lose one war and your country is finished

look at Ottomans or Austro-Hungarians

It lives on in different forms

Turkey is the ottoman empire

It's literally directly from it

It was literally just renamed after the Greater Ottoman Empire collapsed

Sure, war can collapse nations or rise them.

But long term, for everyone, it is a net positive action.

@Deleted User

Depends if you've reached critical mass

China has done fine with no war since Korea

The Ottomans/austro-hungarians reached critical mass of having their base ethnic groups outnumbered by the dissident ones

By having economic policies akeen to war-time policies

Russia taking Belarus or ukraine is different because it's a small %

so they can actually hold it

Also large % of Belarusians/Ukrainians are loyal to Russia

Similar cultures

Same race

No they literally lived under russia for like 150 years

made up countries

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capital of Russia was Kiev Ukraine

Im Russian-Ukrainian myself

I'm just saying invading like

Poland would be an absolute failure

Poland is the new Germany

Also with Ukraine/Belarus Russia just funds insurgents

It's economy is growing on par and will soon overtake in rates against germany

War is useful, without it we wouldn't be here. We wouldn't have any of this land.

War is necessary to purge the weak

Not taking into account nuclear weapons

You can't attack a nation with nuclear weapons nor a country in a nuclear umbrella

No one would use nukes against a nuclear power