It was about making government as small and localized as possible.

Regionalism <:unequal:473954748517842954> Libertarianism

The framers weren't libertarians?

Lockeans?

This is news to me.

Stop conflating Localized govt and Small govt

You need to brush up on your history.

But you just said regionalism and libertarianism aren't the same, and the framers were libertarians.

Lockeanism is the founding of the right libertarian ideals

as well as adam smith

Localized government means smaller government. Articles of Confederation is minarchist.

No True Scotsman fallacy. You should know what that is.

That's what you're doing.

i-it wasnt true minarchism!11!!!

Localized governments can be huge

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?

sorry

fuck

Small is big. War is peace. Freedom is slavery.

Typing is hard

Localized govt can be huge

It can't though.

Look at Syndicalism

It's limited in scope by the GDP of what it serves.

Californian Govt

take that

Big government is big because it's big enough to feed itself via the fed.

Localized government can't do that.

Localized govt can be powerful and big

There's a system of public loans to pay off public loans to pay off the deficit because there's big government.

You are simply wrong.

Seattle banned straws and its a city

Localized government wouldn't be able to infinitely borrow from itself.

Big government is not the same as strict government.

The Constitution is minarchist

Then why aren't we minarchist?

because the constitution only matters if people want it to

Because 200 years of Vote for me for free shit has ruined it

The Constitution enumerates all rights not stated to local government, read the Bill of Rights.

Ergo, early America was minarchist.

thats the 10th

TIL the 10th Amendment isn't in the Bill of Rights.

Moving on.

If America was minarchist then why isn't it today?

I told you

You said a minarchist government would hold itself together though.

Because 200 years of Vote for me for free shit has ruined it

So is it one or the other???

I'm really confused right now.

I tell you how it would work

You sound like a communist.

i-it would just work if we did it my way!!

that wasnt real minarchism!!!!

Disband parliaments

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Exactly a communist.

No democracy

just liberty

>im a libertarian, grounded in Lockean thought
>wtf libertarian ideals that my entire ideology is predicated on?? lol gay!1

Libertarianism is not predicated on democracy

retard

Its in the name

No, Lockean thought is lol

The people balancing the power of the government.

Do you even read?

Do you just think that if government had no say from the people it would keep itself small?

You smoking something I want?

no

heres what you get

You get chaos and retardation.

You're an ancap. Don't even call yourself a minarchist.

Police Commissioners are elected

Judges are

and Military officers elect generals

and they all meet in a chamber

A state with a monopoly on power will not limit its power without pressure from people through democracy.

Elected officials hold the libertarian ideal together.

This is why your ancap fever dream will never be realized.

Im not an ancap

So what are you?

You don't think you're an ancap, but you are.

I apologize for calling you a centrist. You're much worse.

I believe in government police, military and courts

there

idiot

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<:HyperLmao:459545665517780993> Doesnt make you smart

This may come as a shock to you, but. I don't care that you think I'm an idiot. And "<:HyperLmao:459545665517780993>" does not mean "I'm smart".

I know I know. Try not to explode your brain there buddy.

This is almost as bad as when he tried to say that nation-states were invented by post-modernists or something like that.

Historiagraphically just false.

lmao

what is this debate about

Nothing anymore. He disappeared suddenly conveniently.

Hellu

There is no good political system

Prove me wrong

Correct.

Red pill me on left wing falangism